A physician’s thoughts after spending 16 nights at Universal and Disney

Chef Mickey

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Glad yet another positive review.

Think of it this way. Unless you’re quarantined 100% of the time at home, you’re safer at Disney than any random place you go while you’re home.

Disney is actually implementing preventative measures and is policing people on their property. Temperature checks alone are a huge factor in screening someone really under the weather.

If you’re worried about the flight, masks are also required and enforced on all American flights.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Glad yet another positive review.

Think of it this way. Unless you’re quarantined 100% of the time at home, you’re safer at Disney than any random place you go while you’re home.

Disney is actually implementing preventative measures and is policing people on their property. Temperature checks alone are a huge factor in screening someone really under the weather.

If you’re worried about the flight, masks are also required and enforced on all American flights.
No offense...but you keep beating this drum.

They can’t get people there from most of their typical customer demographics.

Not gonna run at 25% on locals and short trippers.

Enjoy it while you can. There’s no travel ease on The horizon
 

BASS

Well-Known Member
But are you a virologist?

Unless you're an expert and not just a GP, I don't understand this 'endorsement' post.

I did not read it as an endorsement. The poster/doctor listed the safety precautions he and his family took. If everyone treated this virus that respectfully, chances are we'd all be in better shape and in a better position to resume normal activities.
 

Disstevefan1

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A little bit about me, I’m a board certified family physician who has been practice for the pat 15 years. We closed our practices to in person visits in mid March and I began seeing patients in person two days a week since mid May. My family and I are fortunate that we are able to go to Disney typically 3-5 times per year from Michigan. We fly 99% of the time. Last year we had made a Bounceback reservation at the GF for a theme park view room 7/12/20 for 8 nights and 4 nights at the Hard Rock Hotel starting 7/8/20 and planned to fly from Detroit to Orlando. Due to Covid we cancelled our flights in March and watched with baited breath as to what was happening in Florida. In early July we had a very frank discussion with our two children 12, and 14 about going to Florida and staying at Disney. By this time Disney had changed our reservations to 5 nights at the Contemporary and 8 nights in a 2 bedroom theme park view Villa at Bay Lake Tower. We had never stayed at either resort in the past. The Contemporary was the last Deluxe that we had not stayed at. Our family was in agreement that we needed a vacation especially for our well being. My wife and I are both in our mid 40s and I have hypertension. Neither of us are overweight and my BP runs 100s-110s/70s. We both exercise every day. We determined that we would accept the risk for going to Florida but would try to mitigate the risk as best we would. This meant no flights and we would not rely on Disney transportation and that we would drive. These were the hard rules that we would all follow:



  1. If any of us felt that we were unsafe at the Disney Parks we would cancel our reservations and return home or try to find some other destination to go to.
  2. We would wear masks as often as we possibly could even when not required
  3. We would avoid situations where people were not wearing masks or following distancing requirements
  4. We would use hand sanitizers or wash our hands as frequently as possible
  5. We would not touch our faces without having used the sanitizer or washing our hands
  6. We would not do any shows where we remained stationary for extended periods of time
  7. If a ride broke down or the line stopped for more than a couple of minutes due to cleaning and people did not follow the distancing and mask rules we would leave and come back later
I’m happy to report that we all had a great time and had a highly enjoyable trip. Universal was great and I feel that they actually did a better job than Disney in terms of enforcing the rules. Universal only scans your temp once per day and gives you a wrist band which allows you to enter all of their facilities without being screened again. This is more convenient than Disney but not as affective. The biggest differences that I believe Universal has done a better job is that their CMs are more engaged and willing to tell guests to put on or pull up a mask, I’d say 95% of guests at Universal we’re compliant with the rules but about 98% at Disney however there were only two times I witnessed a Disney CM speak to a guest about a lack of a mask and one of those times was after I brought it up to the CM. Additionally Universal also has the CMs put hand sanitizer onto the guests hands very much like a cruise line experience whereas Disney has automatic dispensers but the guests themselves must take the initiative to use them. Over the two weeks that we were there the attendance steadily increased to where we are glad we’re driving home today and I’m not certain I’d be comfortable with more people in the parks. The shorter hours of the parks and lack of park hopping was a definite negative and I would not recommend that anyone with kids younger than 10 go during this period of time. I think with the rules it’s too difficult. We actually preferred the character cavalcades to the parades. Overall we had a great trip and felt about a safe as possible other than being in our home. I am not stating that it’s safe to go to Disney right now but I think if you follow the rules that we did you can greatly reduce your risk but of course you need to decide if you are willing to accept that risk. I think governments should look at the theme parks as examples of how society can still function relatively normally when following some very simple rules. If anyone has any questions please feel free to ask. Thanks!

EDIT: Some people are misconstruing this post as an endorsement that Disney is safe and that it’s fine to go. This is not the case. I am simply sharing my thoughts and rationale for going along with our concerns and experiences. It is up to every individual to determine if they are willing to accept risk for what they hope to gain.

I understand your disclaimer as this is not a recommendation to go to Disney and Universal, but it sure seems like you had a good time and as a doctor, you felt it was safe for you and your family. I’ll take it 👍
 

JusticeDisney

Well-Known Member
No, you’re correct. My wife and I both had it back in March. I’m hoping we have immunity but our kids never got it and studies have to yet shown that a patient has immunity even if they were sick in the past.
I’m not a doctor, and obviously you are, so feel free to tell me that I don’t know what the heck I’m talking about. But isn’t it true that, while nobody knows for sure whether having COVID thereafter gives you immunity, most if not all scientists believe that that is the case given what is known about all other viruses?

As for your trip, I’m glad you and your family had a great time! Seems to me that the one big factor that would stop me from going to WDW at this time of year is wearing a mask during this type of heat. My family goes every summer so we are more than aware of the type of heat and we always deal with it relatively well. Having a face covering on, however, seems like a bit more than we would want to handle right now. I’m just curious as to what your thoughts were in that regard?
 

durangojim

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Original Poster
I’m not a doctor, and obviously you are, so feel free to tell me that I don’t know what the heck I’m talking about. But isn’t it true that, while nobody knows for sure whether having COVID thereafter gives you immunity, most if not all scientists believe that that is the case given what is known about all other viruses?

As for your trip, I’m glad you and your family had a great time! Seems to me that the one big factor that would stop me from going to WDW at this time of year is wearing a mask during this type of heat. My family goes every summer so we are more than aware of the type of heat and we always deal with it relatively well. Having a face covering on, however, seems like a bit more than we would want to handle right now. I’m just curious as to what your thoughts were in that regard?
You’re absolutely right about the immunity. We believe some is conferred but studies haven’t shown that yet which is why I didn’t want to make that statement bad for the masks, they are a pain, especially for someone who sweats a lot like me. I found while exercising in the morning, a paper surgical mask kept its shape better and didn’t get sucked into my mouth like the cotton ones did. I preferred the cotton mask while walking around the park and as gross as this sounds, once it got wet from my sweat it actually worked better for me because it kept its form better. (TMI I know). The funny thing is after about a day we got used to the masks and they just became another thing to deal with. The worst part was when I went down from our villa to get a couple of drinks at the pool bar and forgot to put a mask on. I felt so ashamed and people were staring. As soon as I realized what I did I made a beeline back to the elevator and room trying to avoid anyone. It’s like those dreams where you’re naked in school, lol. Never happened again. :D
 

Samthedog

New Member
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Glad that you and your family had a nice vacation.

Speaking for myself only, I'd still be uncomfortable going to WDW, or any theme park, at this point in time. But I'm hoping things improve eventually in 2021. (If nothing else, absence makes the heart grow fonder.) :)
Same here we live 9 miles from Disney and have platinum Florida resident passes. Which are good until October but so far we have not gone back. It’s not so much from the mask reason but yes it’s hot with one one down here my daughter who has sensory issues will not wear one. And I don’t think it is that important to make her wear one just to go to Disney. Plus you are paying same amount of making and getting less. Hopefully things change but I don’t see it. The bad thing is more and more people going down here that are not self quarantine themselves from places that require it. And they are shopping in the store down here and not wear mask. And you can’t tell bc when they leave there cars are from out of state. Plus the more and more people come down here the numbers keep going up and up
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
I’m not a doctor, and obviously you are, so feel free to tell me that I don’t know what the heck I’m talking about. But isn’t it true that, while nobody knows for sure whether having COVID thereafter gives you immunity, most if not all scientists believe that that is the case given what is known about all other viruses?

As for your trip, I’m glad you and your family had a great time! Seems to me that the one big factor that would stop me from going to WDW at this time of year is wearing a mask during this type of heat. My family goes every summer so we are more than aware of the type of heat and we always deal with it relatively well. Having a face covering on, however, seems like a bit more than we would want to handle right now. I’m just curious as to what your thoughts were in that regard?

I will chime in on masks in the heat. I live in Central FL and I mow my lawn in the heat and humidity with a mask on and forget I have it on. Stay calm and mask on 😀.

Masks aside, a lot of folks go to WDW and really focus on the heat. If you relax and accept the heat for what it is, you can turn your attention to having a good time at WDW.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
I will chime in on masks in the heat. I live in Central FL and I mow my lawn in the heat and humidity with a mask on and forget I have it on. Stay calm and mask on 😀.

Masks aside, a lot of folks go to WDW and really focus on the heat. If you relax and accept the heat for what it is, you can turn your attention to having a good time at WDW.
Or maybe different people tolerate the heat better than others.
 
We ate at Art Smith which was good but we didn’t feel comfortable at Disney Springs so we only ate there the one time during lunch on a weekday. At at the Wave which was OK, my pork was undercooked even though I like it medium to medium rare, California Grill which has a limited menu and just didn’t feel as premium as it has when we’ve dined there before. Ate at Kona but service was meh as the waitress said that it was her first day there and she normally was a bar tender at the Boardwalk, Le Cellier was actually very very good and San Angel Inn was fine. Whispering Canyon was good too. We ate at Sci Fi which was fun but empty, and twice at the Brown Derby, first time was great, second was mediocre. We ate at Finnegans at Universal which was fine and Amatista Cookhouse At Sapphire Falls which was pretty good.
I'm really surprised by how much indoor dining you did! Were the table spread 10 feet apart.?
 

HollyAD

Well-Known Member
But are you a virologist?

Unless you're an expert and not just a GP, I don't understand this 'endorsement' post.
Are you a virologist? I think the point of the post is to not incite fear and promote that well educated people who have knowledge of disease can make educated decisions. We all need to make our own decisions based on our own lives. It speaks volumes that someone, who is a physician, is willing to speak out about his experience. I certainly appreciate his input as he has an eye to seek out deficiencies in safety measures. You don't need to be a specialist in disease to understand basic knowledge of disease. Do you think "virologists" are the ones treating patients with COVID "hands on." Absolutely not.
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I'm really surprised by how much indoor dining you did! Were the table spread 10 feet apart.?
Some cases yes, some no. I think in an earlier post on this thread I listed where I felt comfortable and where I didn’t.
EDIT: Here’s a list I made for another message board. My comfort level had to do with the proximity of other tables but also how much traffic was going by our table or booth.
Sci-Fi - comfortable
Brown Derby - comfortable
Skipper Canteen - comfortable
California Grill - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Le Cellier - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
San Angel Inn - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Finnegan’s at Universal - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Amatista cookhouse at Universal - not comfortable, too close to others
Homecomin - not comfortable, too close to others
Kona - not comfortable, too close to others
 
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Vivecka

New Member
Thank you for sharing. We go next week and I'm getting really messed up about it. We have a 5 year old and 7 year old. I know kids are less affected but my mama bear only cares about them. I don't want fear to run my life. I trusted Disney before the pandemic and feel like they are doing fantastic things to be safe. I don't like having to be unsure right up until the last minute. I'm hoping to read positive stories. Many people are saying Disney is ghost town and others don't. All I hear is how masks work and I just want to believe it. But is it really true?
 

BASS

Well-Known Member
Some cases yes, some no. I think in an earlier post on this thread I listed where I felt comfortable and where I didn’t.
EDIT: Here’s a list I made for another message board. My comfort level had to do with the proximity of other tables but also how much traffic was going by our table or booth.
Sci-Fi - comfortable
Brown Derby - comfortable
Skipper Canteen - comfortable
California Grill - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Le Cellier - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
San Angel Inn - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Finnegan’s at Universal - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Amatista cookhouse at Universal - not comfortable, too close to others
Homecomin - not comfortable, too close to others
Kona - not comfortable, too close to others

I love to eat out but haven't done it since quarantine started. What was your take on whether folks were careful or not in that setting? Were folks wearing their masks all times that they were not eating, or did you find mask adherence a little more lax?
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I love to eat out but haven't done it since quarantine started. What was your take on whether folks were careful or not in that setting? Were folks wearing their masks all times that they were not eating, or did you find mask adherence a little more lax?
We kept our masks in until our food came but most people took them off as soon as they were seated. My comfort level was more based on the proximity to other guests.
 

BASS

Well-Known Member
We kept our masks in until our food came but most people took them off as soon as they were seated. My comfort level was more based on the proximity to other guests.

Oooh. Were you concerned at all about that? That would concern me. Based on what I've read, I'm less concerned about masks in outdoor spaces but more so in indoor spaces.
 

EdnaMode

Well-Known Member
Some cases yes, some no. I think in an earlier post on this thread I listed where I felt comfortable and where I didn’t.
EDIT: Here’s a list I made for another message board. My comfort level had to do with the proximity of other tables but also how much traffic was going by our table or booth.
Sci-Fi - comfortable
Brown Derby - comfortable
Skipper Canteen - comfortable
California Grill - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Le Cellier - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
San Angel Inn - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Finnegan’s at Universal - so so, a little closer to other tables than I would prefer
Amatista cookhouse at Universal - not comfortable, too close to others
Homecomin - not comfortable, too close to others
Kona - not comfortable, too close to others

Did you eat on the patio at Homecomin'? I love that place, but we're not doing any dine-in (at home or anywhere else), so I hope they haven't overcrowded the patio just because it's outdoors.

I'm a nurse, and I'm realizing that colleagues and friends are much more all-over-the-map about their interest in public health strategies and in acquiring accurate information about this illness than I expected. So I guess I understand why someone would question using your background as a physician to share your experiences, but this long paragraph is meant to say: I really, really appreciated this perspective.
Your post is from a physician who has had Corona and who has traveled and taken a family to Disney in the middle of a pandemic. This insight isn't going to come up too often! Thank you!
 

durangojim

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Oooh. Were you concerned at all about that? That would concern me. Based on what I've read, I'm less concerned about masks in outdoor spaces but more so in indoor spaces.
In theory I agree, it’s just when the heat index is over 100 it was difficult for us to eat outside. We used hand sanitizer often and tried to do the best we could. I admit I would not recommend my patients to follow my example. 🤞
 

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