A photo tour of the Anaheim Resort District Hotel Construction from 1/22/2019

[Darkbeer1]

They should turn the USCIS into a CM parking structure. Just like I think they should turn that CM lot next to M&Fs into a parking structure too.

As for CM parking on Manchester, no way, as the traffic flow plans would have too many vehicles entering/exiting onto Manchester/Clementine. Now, adding onto the Main Pumbaa structure and sending more cars there would allow more CM parking at the Katella Lot, and that is a good benefit. Disney keeps its shuttle costs down by eliminating one stop.

As for the North extension of the M&F lot, the Bakery building is an issue, as the costs for a small structure wouldn't pencil out as cost effective.

The best place to build a CM structure currently is the Ball Road Lot. The land wouldn't be used for anything else, has decent freeway access, and wouldn't impact anything. Simple Rectangular lot, so construction should be fairly easy.

 

[Disney Irish]

As for CM parking on Manchester, no way, as the traffic flow plans would have too many vehicles entering/exiting onto Manchester/Clementine. Now, adding onto the Main Pumbaa structure and sending more cars there would allow more CM parking at the Katella Lot, and that is a good benefit. Disney keeps its shuttle costs down by eliminating one stop.

As for the North extension of the M&F lot, the Bakery building is an issue, as the costs for a small structure wouldn't pencil out as cost effective.

The best place to build a CM structure currently is the Ball Road Lot. The land wouldn't be used for anything else, has decent freeway access, and wouldn't impact anything. Simple Rectangular lot, so construction should be fairly easy.

Got it. As long as they turn some of the current CM surface lots into structures I don’t really have a preference on which ones.

 

[Ismael Flores]

They should turn the USCIS into a CM parking structure. Just like I think they should turn that CM lot next to M&Fs into a parking structure too.

that lot next to the mickey and friends structure should have been turned into a structure when they built Mickey and friends, never understood why they didn't. The other lot that should be turned into a CM structure is the lot on the corner of Ball and Harbor. That lot can easily serve a large majority of CM's including moving the katella lot CM's to this area.

 

[Ismael Flores]

And yes, the plan is NO crosswalk on Harbor from Manchester to Disney Way. The removal of the current crosswalk where the Captain Kidd's is will be removed, and a solid fence will be placed in the middle of Harbor. This is what the City wants, better and safer traffic flow in the area.

I can't wait for this to happen, that crosswalk is such a hazard. more than once i have seen people trying to catch the green walk sign and just rush into traffic as if the extra minute makes a difference. I'm really surprised there hasn't been an accident and thats only because the traffic hardly moves in the area so cars are driving slow.

The other problem is the traffic nightmare this crosswalk causes, the light turns green for cars to proceed and hords of people ignore it and still try crossing even if it means crossing between cars trying to already move.

 

[Disney Irish]

that lot next to the mickey and friends structure should have been turned into a structure when they built Mickey and friends, never understood why they didn't. The other lot that should be turned into a CM structure is the lot on the corner of Ball and Harbor. That lot can easily serve a large majority of CM's including moving the katella lot CM's to this area.

I agree, basically at this point any and all CM surface lots should be turned into parking structures. They're only going to increase the number of CMs not decrease, so might as well increase the parking spaces available at the same time.

 

[Ismael Flores]

And the hotels that would be closer to the new entry plaza are all the bigger and newer corporate hotels; Courtyard, Fairfield, HoJo's, Holiday Inn, Hilton Garden, etc., etc. The old mom-n-pop places along Harbor are the ones who lose their instant access. With apologies to @Curious Constance whose family enjoys the Park Vue, I think in the bigger picture its best to cater to the thousands of rooms in the newer/nicer hotels than the few hundred rooms in the half dozen small motels along Harbor Blvd.

At least this years-long delay will allow them to use the USCIS building from the beginning. If I remember right, our friend @SSG searched the government data and determined the lease for that building ended in 2020. Which in 2016 seemed a long ways off, but suddenly doesn't.

It was always silly for them to have to do this in two phases and build around the USCIS facility until they could tear it down in 2020 when the lease expires.

In theory if they go ahead and add the exclusive gate access at the back of the properties the majoirty of the hotels should not be inconvinience and instead would have bragging rights of having that access. There are six hotels visible in the above picture and the ones i highlighted in blue box can easily have a back access gate since Disney said they were willing to work with them to do that.
The only one without that option would be the one directly south of the new security bridge.
the owner can work something out with Disney in regards to adding a walkway in the area designated for landscape where i marked in red.

 

[Disney Irish]

In theory if they go ahead and add the exclusive gate access at the back of the properties the majoirty of the hotels should not be inconvinience and instead would have bragging rights of having that access. There are six hotels visible in the above picture and the ones i highlighted in blue box can easily have a back access gate since Disney said they were willing to work with them to do that.
The only one without that option would be the one directly south of the new security bridge.
the owner can work something out with Disney in regards to adding a walkway in the area designated for landscape where i marked in red.View attachment 345207

That's the McDonald's/Fairfield Inn lot where you have the red mark. Disney already said they would work with them and the other hotels to the north to give them a special path into the security zone.

 

[Ismael Flores]

That's the McDonald's/Fairfield Inn lot where you have the red mark. Disney already said they would work with them and the other hotels to the north to give them a special path into the security zone.

between the Mcdonalds and the bridge is the Camelot in as well.

Mcdonalds supposedly had issue with the possibility of a walkway going thru their property because of possible liability and the fact that it would decrease the width of their parking property for a 3-4 foot wide walkway along the property. You would also have to make a deal with Fairfield Inn because the Mcdonalds property doesn't go all the way back.

If that would not pan out then Camelots' property butts up against the new eastgate development. A walkway from their parking lot can in theory be added or guests can walk thru the other property behind it but those owners might not car for that idea.

so if Disney can adjust their landscaping fence line a bit then the Camelot owners would also have direct access from the back of the property without having to get Mcdonalds involved. they can even get Fairfield Inn involved so they can also use the same private walkway and make them happy also
i have added a piece of google map to the picture to show the full Camelot Inn and their property

 

[Disney Irish]

between the Mcdonalds and the bridge is the Camelot in as well.

Mcdonalds supposedly had issue with the possibility of a walkway going thru their property because of possible liability and the fact that it would decrease the width of their parking property for a 3-4 foot wide walkway along the property. You would also have to make a deal with Fairfield Inn because the Mcdonalds property doesn't go all the way back.

If that would not pan out then Camelots' property butts up against the new eastgate development. A walkway from their parking lot can in theory be added or guests can walk thru the other property behind it but those owners might not car for that idea.

so if Disney can adjust their landscaping fence line a bit then the Camelot owners would also have direct access from the back of the property without having to get Mcdonalds involved. they can even get Fairfield Inn involved so they can also use the same private walkway and make them happy also
i have added a piece of google map to the picture to show the full Camelot Inn and their propertyView attachment 345234

Yes it wasn't specifically that McDonald's themsevles would get a path, but that all properties north would get a special path into the secure zone. I'll have to see if I can find the graphic that was done that had that special path.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes it wasn't specifically that McDonald's themsevles would get a path, but that all properties north would get a special path into the secure zone. I'll have to see if I can find the graphic that was done that had that special path.

Here's one of the images from the Dec 2016 meeting where they talked about access for northern properties into the security zone, credit to @Darkbeer1 from his site:

Now this one goes across Camelot's parking area all the way to Harbor sidewalk. But I recall there was also talk about the potential of using the backside of Fairfield Inn if Camelot wasn't keen on giving up half of their parking.

Anyways the point is there was already talk about giving access into the secure zone from different points besides the single path from Disney Way.

 

[Ismael Flores]

yes thats the image of the proposed idea for the path. i do remember that Mcdonald’s was the one that was suggested to allow for the pathway that would have been basically on the property line of their parking and Camelots.
and that is why i started the original post to begin with. to point out the fact that only one or two hotels really get inconvenience in rregards to the length if their guests walking. most hotels along harbor can either have direct backdoor access if they work with Disney or another possible method for a walkway like the Camelot

 

[Disney Irish]

yes thats the image of the proposed idea for the path. i do remember that Mcdonald’s was the one that was suggested to allow for the pathway that would have been basically on the property line of their parking and Camelots.
and that is why i started the original post to begin with. to point out the fact that only one or two hotels really get inconvenience in rregards to the length if their guests walking. most hotels along harbor can either have direct backdoor access if they work with Disney or another possible method for a walkway like the Camelot

I think you and I are saying the same thing. Anyways, Disney has and will work with the City and as many of the Harbor businesses they can to provide the best plan for the Resort. Yes some may be inconvenienced, but that is normal when you go from open access to more secure access. So just like I posted before, people will adjust and everything will be ok.

 

[Darkbeer1]

Let me say this, while things are much better between the city and Disney, to get this project approved, there will have to be a partnership between the businesses in the area and Disney. And let me assure you that is happening.

Alas, I can't say any more on the subject, as the parties are still in discussions.

And yes, a few might not get everything they want, but the majority should be on board by the time the plans are filed with the city. Community meetings are required prior to the submission, and even then, adjustment might be made from those meetings.

 

[Darkbeer1]

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