A few comments/observations from my recent DL trip

Poly1974

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I have lurked here for a while and gotten some great pointers for my Disneyland trip. I just returned from 8 nights at the Villas at the Grand Californian and wanted to post some of my observations. First off, I have been going to WDW since 1974 and have only been to Disneyland 4 times, the last time being 2007. Of course I have a few comparisons between WDW and DL, but I think you will find that I don't have any WDW bias.

The hotels:

We enjoyed our time at the Grand, but I have to say that with how close the area hotels/motels are, I cannot justify the price of Disney's hotels. If I wasn't staying on points, I would have been out on Harbor Blvd. for sure. There just isn't enough of an advantage to staying onsite to justify the prices Disney asks.

Getting into the parks:

This is where Disneyland needs to make some improvements. I could not believe the inefficiency in the process of going through bag checks and then entrance to the park. First off, why don't they have a separate entrance for those without bags? I never carry a bag and yet I had to wait in the same line as those with bags. One morning, we were going to the early magic hour at Disneyland and the line for bag check went back to the tram stop and they only had 2 lines open. It was very frustrating.

Once through bag check, it is on to the next inefficient line to enter the park. Why do they need to have the cast member with the iPod check your picture? Once your picture is on file, it should just show on the screen at the turnstile when your ticket is scanned. They are using twice the manpower that they need . Also, there should be a separate area off to the side to take your picture on your first day using your ticket. On our first day, I felt sorry for those stuck behind us while we got our E-tickets converted and photos taken.

This is an area where WDW definitely does a better job. The management responsible for this area needs to make a trip to Florida and learn how to get crowds into their parks. Why didn't DL ever go to the biometrics? I made it a point to never take it out on the employees working in these areas. It's not their faults, it's poor management.

California Adventure:

As I said above, I haven't been here since 07. It is much improved. The Buena Vista Street area is nice. I felt like I was at MGM 20 years ago. It has a nice feel to it. As I walked through Cars Land, I kept thinking to myself that this is what happens when Disney lets the imagineers do their jobs without cutting corners and doing things "on the cheap". This is the kind of immersive theming that WDW should be striving for if they want to keep up with what Universal is doing across town. They really hit a home run on this area. The Little Mermaid ride was a little disappointing. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I just came out a little underwhelmed. The show building is a little bland in my opinion. When I walk through the Paradise Pier area, I just don't feel like I am in a Disney park, except when watching World of Color. Speaking of which, what is the point of Fastpass for this show? If I have to line up an hour ahead of time anyway, why not just make it first come, first serve like Fantasmic? Good show, though.

The park is so much better than it was, but I feel that the overall theme seems disjointed. Is it the Hollywood of the 20's or is it all of the different areas of California? Or is it Pixar Land? I think the original attractions and lands limited what they could do here, short of tearing it all up and starting over. It is a great improvement and much closer to being a full day park. We really enjoyed our days there.

Disneyland:

The original and still the best. It's so nice to see Main Street the way it is supposed to be, with side streets and the cinema and the magic shop. I could go on and on, but I will just hit on my personal highlights. Having recently read Rolly Crump's book, I had a newfound appreciation for the original Tiki Room. It was great to watch the original, un-cut show and to see the tiki gods out front. Pirates - just the best. It tells the story perfectly from start to finish and takes no short cuts. One word - classic. The Matterhorn is such a rough ride, but there is just something about it. Perhaps it is the simplicity of it. No fancy effects, just a good old fashioned coaster. I had never ridden the DL Space Mountain before. I really enjoyed it. I'm not going to compare it to the WDW version. They are two different rides and I enjoy them both. Indy - I still wish they put this at the Studios in FL. Instead we got Dinosaur, which uses the same ride technology, but has none of the charm of Indy. This is another truly immersive ride experience. Mr. Toad! Get drunk, drive into a train and go to hell. The perfect Disney story. I really miss this ride at WDW, but I'm glad that DL has held onto it. And finally, Fantasmic. This is another case of the original being the best. Maybe it is the use of the boats on the Rivers of America, or not having to sit through the Pocahontas scene, but the DL version is so much better.

Downtown Disney:

Why is WDW looking to expand DD into Disney Springs? Sometimes smaller is better. We really enjoyed Downtown Disney at DL. I have a new favorite place to eat; Earl of Sandwich. It's gotta be the best food value on property. Love me that Holiday sandwich!

Cleanliness of the Resort:

Everything was so clean, the way I remember WDW in the 70's and 80'. I think that as WDW has grown, it has gotten more difficult to maintain. There are definite advantages to DL being a small resort.

Anyway, that is my take on our visit to the Disneyland Resort. We had a great trip and I think we will be back sooner than 6 years next time. Thanks for reading.

Mike
 

coachwnh

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In the Parks
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Glad you enjoyed the trip. We, too, are WDW veterans and pass holders, and we ventured out to California the last two summers. I came away after this past summer with so much more of an appreciation for what DL is!! After last summer, like you, I had some things I didn't like about DL and DCA. Not anymore, however! I absolutely feel in love with it this year. In fact, we purchased premier APs so we can have the best of both coasts!!! Welcome to the boards!!!!!!
 

Cosmic Commando

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I do remember there being no bag check and it being very frustrating, but the other stuff sounds like you got stuck with a bad test that they were running. When I was there in November, they had the biometric scan and the picture from our APs showed up on the screen at the turnstile when they scanned our passes... no CM with an iPod. And it sounds like they made people take their picture for their passes right at the front of the park? During our trip, you could do it with any Photopass CM.
 

Poly1974

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I do remember there being no bag check and it being very frustrating, but the other stuff sounds like you got stuck with a bad test that they were running. When I was there in November, they had the biometric scan and the picture from our APs showed up on the screen at the turnstile when they scanned our passes... no CM with an iPod. And it sounds like they made people take their picture for their passes right at the front of the park? During our trip, you could do it with any Photopass CM.

From what I have read on these boards, the ipod thing has been going on for a while, so I don't think it is a test. And yes, the photos are taken while you are on line by the cast member with the ipod. It really slows things down. The other thing that blew my mind was that when re-entering the parks on the same day, the 1st CM checked my photo and then when my pass was scanned at the turnstile, the 2nd CM checked for a hand stamp. If you have already confirmed that I am the proper holder of that pass, why the need to check for a hand stamp? Is Disneyland worried that the identical twins of the world are conspiring to defeat their ticketing system?

Interesting to hear that they had the biometric scan. I have never heard of it being used in Disneyland. I can only assume that the motivation to change would be the almighty dollar, assuming that photos on an ipod are cheaper than whatever technology is used for the biometrics.

To follow up on Rolly Crump's book, as stated above, it's called "It's Kind of a Cute Story" and it is a great read for anybody who is interested in the history of the Disney Parks.
 

Figments Friend

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Hey there Poly....thanks for the heads up regarding the bag check and lack of a 'no bags' line.
I very rarely bring a bag into a Park ( maybe once a visit, for photography reasons ) and knowing this in advance about how the line is set up is good to know.

Appreciate you taking the time to post your thoughts here.
As a fellow WDW vet, i agree - DL rocks !

:)
 

gsrjedi

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I think the iPod scan is only for multi-day tickets and not APs. We had our APs before they started that program, but when they saw our passes, they never stopped us at the iPod CM. I don't know why they do it that way, and never understood why they didn't use the biometric scanners like at WDW. It seemed an easy enough process to me when I visited WDW.
 

Californian Elitist

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They've been taking pictures of people due to the Craigslist and eBay ticket issues. People would have 5-day tickets, and sell each day, one by one on eBay. You'd buy a day, they'd give you the ticket, then you'd have to return the ticket back to the seller, then they'd sell the remaining days to other customers (hence the reason they're taking pictures of guests). Craigslist was completely scamming people and selling fake tickets.
 

TP2000

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They've been taking pictures of people due to the Craigslist and eBay ticket issues. People would have 5-day tickets, and sell each day, one by one on eBay. You'd buy a day, they'd give you the ticket, then you'd have to return the ticket back to the seller, then they'd sell the remaining days to other customers (hence the reason they're taking pictures of guests). Craigslist was completely scamming people and selling fake tickets.

Bingo!

The iPod picture game is only applied for people entering the parks with multi-day tickets. APs and single-day ticket holders don't have to do anything with iPods or photo checks. It is only for multi-day ticket holders in an attempt to control the rampant Craigslist fraud and slimy people running ticket fraud business out of the back of a van at a nearby gas station.

It was quite the thing in the local media when Disneyland began the photo process earlier this year, and many of the fraudsters yelled to high heaven in the local press and vowed they would fight back against Disney for "taking their living away". But those hucksters seem to have gone away for good and Disney is winning that war.

You have to think that at some point they'll go to a Florida-style ticketing system though with the "touch points" and NextGen entry systems and MagicBands. But for now, if you are using a multi-day ticket, smile for the iPod!

And yes, Disneyland Resort is cleaner and better maintained than WDW currently. Disneyland rocks.
 

FutureWorld1982

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I fell in love with the Disneyland Resort. I just visited the place a week ago, and I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. Of course, I will always love the Walt Disney World Resort for its grandeur, its different attractions, and for its many amenities and things to do outside the parks (including the gorgeous hotels), but I now also love and appreciate the friendliness and warmth that the Disneyland Resort conveys. Both Resorts are fantastic in their own ways. One thing is sure: even though I live about 25 minutes away from WDW, I will make it a point to visit the DLR at least once a year.
 

Figments Friend

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Bingo!

The iPod picture game is only applied for people entering the parks with multi-day tickets. APs and single-day ticket holders don't have to do anything with iPods or photo checks. It is only for multi-day ticket holders in an attempt to control the rampant Craigslist fraud and slimy people running ticket fraud business out of the back of a van at a nearby gas station.

It was quite the thing in the local media when Disneyland began the photo process earlier this year, and many of the fraudsters yelled to high heaven in the local press and vowed they would fight back against Disney for "taking their living away". But those hucksters seem to have gone away for good and Disney is winning that war.

You have to think that at some point they'll go to a Florida-style ticketing system though with the "touch points" and NextGen entry systems and MagicBands. But for now, if you are using a multi-day ticket, smile for the iPod!

And yes, Disneyland Resort is cleaner and better maintained than WDW currently. Disneyland rocks.

Wow...sounds like the ticket resale market was just as crazy out in CA as it used to be in FL.
Many thanks for the info. Good to know pre-visit, as i will be entering with a Multi-Day this time around.
 

Figments Friend

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I fell in love with the Disneyland Resort. I just visited the place a week ago, and I couldn't believe how beautiful it was. Of course, I will always love the Walt Disney World Resort for its grandeur, its different attractions, and for its many amenities and things to do outside the parks (including the gorgeous hotels), but I now also love and appreciate the friendliness and warmth that the Disneyland Resort conveys. Both Resorts are fantastic in their own ways. One thing is sure: even though I live about 25 minutes away from WDW, I will make it a point to visit the DLR at least once a year.

Welcome to the club!
:)

I am also a longtime WDW vet ( ex-FL resident ) and still visit often, but after my 1st venture out to DL a few years ago i was instantly enchanted with the place after a brief transitional adjustment period ( mainly, the difference in arriving at the gates ). DL is fantastic.

I actually blew off my annual Autumn visit to WDW this year to re-visit DL instead.
Yeah, it impressed me.
 

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