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A different experience.

rdour@techminds

New Member
Original Poster
OK, I arrived back home from my trip yesterday. I was too tired each night to get online and check up on these boards. I don't know if this will be at all interesting, but if you want to know just a bit about visiting the parks with low vision, read on.

Magic Kingdom

I believe that the first thing that needs to be said is that the park is incredibly confusing. This isn't a bad thing. The layout definately shows a park in constant transition. Finding attractions is definately difficult. I chose not to carry around the oversized tape player they did offer me, and the braille guide was 45 pages, so it would have taken me an hour or so just to get it read. My girlfriend has much better vision, and so we tried just finding things as we went through the park. CMs were very helpful with assisting me into boats and ride cars. I was lucky, it isn't difficult, and it was not necessary to stop any rides to get more time. No "scary spooks have interupted our tour" for me. Finding the Liberty Tree Tavern for dinner was a real challenge. It isn't visually obvious where it is. A bit of advice for CMs who read this board. If you ever see anyone with a white cane, give them directions that don't just involve a path to follow, but also describe some of the larger landmarks and even food and gift shop locations along the path. These act as guides to ensure that we're going the right way. Saying, "turn right over there, and when you get over the bridge turn left and you'll find it" isn't good enough. We tried these general directions many times, they just leave us way more confused, and further from where we are going. To give you an idea, it took us 35 minutes to get from space mountain to that tavern because we had to ask about 7 different CMs for directions. We visited 4 of the lands in our trip to the tavern. Since we were trying to get to our reservation, it was our own version of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.

On a different subject, rides like space mountain are great with the added element of sound. Close your eyes if you are a frequent visitor and have the time to experiment. You will notice that you can almost never feel your position in the building. The nature of the building prevents any wind, and so direction is impossible to gage. It has a very different feeling than an outdoor coaster. Aside from the sound effects. Also, when you pass through the light tunnel, you can hear the space around you become much more confined. No sound echos in the building, and I seriously want to know what materials they have on the walls, because when you are near them, sound becomes a void. Is it carpet or foam like a recording studio?

Mickey's Filharmagic was very enjoyable despite the loss of the 3d experience. Goofy running around just sounds very realistic. The sound is amazing, the gusts of air startled me just as much as anyone who could have seen the action, and the story was easy to follow despite the lack of description. I just wish I knew a bit more about what Donald was doing during that performance. His commentary makes up for anything I missed.

Hall of presidents. This is interesting, the presidents sound great, but the positioning of the sound and quality makes it believeable. It does not sound like the president is speaking out of a PA or even a really high quality monitor. That sounds real. There is a difference normally when people are heard through a speaker, vs. when they are standing and speaking. This is really well done.

Wishes. The impressive thing for me is timing. To hear the fireworks in almost perfect sync with the music and presentation is impressive. I still don't know how they do that, fireworks aren't that predictable. The score alone is worth listening. I wish I could get a raw audio version of that.

Characters. Its interesting, I'm 26, but those characters are not people in a costume when you meet them. I frequently visit Six Flags Great America near my home. The characters there do not walk around and greet people. They especially don't make the extra effort to approach you. Goofy walked up and tapped me on the head, and when I turned around, he took my hand and placed it on the top of his head. I was able to feel the detail in his face, and that was really worth it. I never could see the detail of the characters when I was a kid watching those cartoons, so it was worth it. At the Liberty Tree Tavern, the greeter noticed that I was carrying a white cane. The characters took the time to come up, tap me, and acted very silly. Again, I had the opportunity to check out their costumes. Pluto was especially awesome. I commented that I thought his tongue was really funny, and he licked my face and then barked. Excellent. My girlfriend said that she hadn't seen me that happy in a really long time.


If there is interest, I'll continue. I don't see posts with trip descriptions here, and unless there is interest, I'll keep it to myself. But if this sounds interesting, let me know. It may be better done in a podcast. I could create a single entry podcast feed that contains my descriptions. I think it would be a good idea. Let me know.

Ryan
 

raven

Well-Known Member
rdour@techminds said:
Also, when you pass through the light tunnel, you can hear the space around you become much more confined. No sound echos in the building, and I seriously want to know what materials they have on the walls, because when you are near them, sound becomes a void. Is it carpet or foam like a recording studio?
I believe you are talking about the red re-entry tunnel. That tunnel is plastic. I've touched it many times before.
If you go through the complete queue line of Test Track, there is an area that is in a soundproof room. There are no doors to the room but it becomes very quiet when you walk through there. I have it on video and it's amazing that ALL of the sound except my footsteps are cut out.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
Mecha Figment said:
pluto barked? strange. he's not suppose to make a sound.

Well, I did meet a Mickey where the actor made smacking sounds with their libs whenever he kissed somebody.

BTW, when you said the loss of the 3-D experience on Philharmagic ( not "Filharmagic":wave: ) did you not wear 3-d glasses or something? Just curiouse.

Just another question, if you found it hard to find things in the MK, why didn't you get a guide map?
 

MrNonacho

Premium Member
Corrus said:
But please freshen up your grammar...

I don't have any problems with it. :confused:

imagineer boy said:
BTW, when you said the loss of the 3-D experience on Philharmagic ( not "Filharmagic" ) did you not wear 3-d glasses or something? Just curiouse.

Just another question, if you found it hard to find things in the MK, why didn't you get a guide map?
I think you missed a key point in the OP. Try reading it again.
 

Tim G

Well-Known Member
We been there about a dozen times...

Defenately???


etc. etc...

Just another moaner...
If he has a complaint??
Write a letter, file a complaint...
 

Mecha Figment

New Member
imagineer boy said:
Well, I did meet a Mickey where the actor made smacking sounds with their libs whenever he kissed somebody.

BTW, when you said the loss of the 3-D experience on Philharmagic ( not "Filharmagic":wave: ) did you not wear 3-d glasses or something? Just curiouse.

Just another question, if you found it hard to find things in the MK, why didn't you get a guide map?


Flicks you in the head! HELLO McFLY!!!! HELLO!!!:hammer:
 

MrNonacho

Premium Member
Corrus said:
We been there about a dozen times...

Defenately???


etc. etc...

Just another moaner...
If he has a complaint??
Write a letter, file a complaint...

I think you might be a touch nit-picky.

Anyway, I thought it was a very interesting post. It's nice to see (or hear) things from a different perspective.
 

AliciaLuvzDizne

Well-Known Member
your post completely fasinates me
its interesting to experience the parks through your report.

thanks for sharing!

(and perhaps the CM's who directed you to the Liberty Tree Tavern werent aware of the level of direction you and your girlfriend needed?)
 

Captain Hank

Well-Known Member
This is quite an interesting post, and from a point of view that I must admit I've never heard before. Please do continue to write. Also, you mentioned not seeing any posts containing trip reports. There is a seperate board for trip reports on this forum. You can find it on the forum main page or the drop down menu at the bottom (and this thread may be moved there).

Also, I recommend contacting Walt Disney World Guest Relations at wdw.guest.communications@disneyworld.com with your suggestions about improving the park experience for the visually impaired.

Edit: Hey, that was my 2,000th post! :sohappy:
 

Mecha Figment

New Member
i'm wondering something.. since you are visualy impared how do you read the posts.. is it a reading voice program....I'm just curious. I've always wondered that.:animwink:
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I also found this post completely intriguing and captivating.

This is a POV that I never have considered.
 

rdour@techminds

New Member
Original Poster
I'm moving through the thread now answering questions. I use the "mobile devices" setting to eliminate graphics. How do I quote something without copy -> paste?

To answer some questions:

* Pluto barked because for me, it is an added bonus that added to his character. Mini also made kissy sounds. I forgot about that til I saw that comment.

* I didn't know that the tunnel was plastic, did you not listen to the directions about hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times? I don't have the balls to do that, I like my hands, couldn't imagine losing a finger over a ride.

* park maps in braille don't exist. They provide generalized routes. If you are trying to find a part of the park that is not a major atraction, forget about it with those.

Also, if any of you ever see the big maps with the raised numbers, check it out, they also have braille. It is unfortunate though, guests scrape at it with their fingernails, and break off the dots. If you ever see jagged broken numbers, tell the CMs so that they can fix it. They were very happy when I told them about the broken ones at EPCOT.
 

JerMerBear

New Member
I believe he said he wasn't completely blind, just had low vision. So, I'm guessing he can read close up.

Anywho, I thought the post was absolutely fantastic. Its amazing to be able to see the park in the eyes of someone else, especially like that. I would LOVE to hear more.
 

MsSpinShady

Member
Very interesting report, thank you for posting! Please continue writing, as I'd love to hear more from your perspective.

Glad you and your girlfriend had a great trip!

MsSpinShady :cool:
 

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