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The Fate of T. Rex Sue and Fossils in DinoLand U.S.A

HM GhostHostess

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Does anyone have any knowledge of the fate of all of the fossils and fossil casts found throughout DinoLand U.S.A? I sincerely hope that all of the specimens displayed throughout the land will be respected and preserved. These displays are not just theme park scenery, they are fossils and professionally made casts of real fossils that are millions of years old.

Many of the real fossils are on loan from various museums and universities, so I would hope that these are properly returned to their original owners. However, Disney does own several of the fossils found in DinoLand U.S.A. I am also aware that they own most of the fossils casts that were displayed throughout the land, such as those within the rockwork of The Boneyard and hanging on the walls in the Restaurantosaurus. One of the most iconic examples is the Brachiosaurus skeleton that welcomed guests throughout the "Oldengate Bridge" at the entrance of DinoLand U.S.A. This is a cast of the first bones of this species found in 1900 in Colorado by paleontologist Elmer Riggs. Most entities outside of museums do not have the privilege of owning full-scale, mostly complete fossil casts of important paleontological finds like this.

Another important fossil cast display in DinoLand U.S.A. is the cast of the Tyrannosaurus rex Sue. She is one of the largest, most complete, and best preserved fossils of the Tyrannosaurus rex that has been discovered. The Walt Disney Company was one of the major donors that helped the Field Museum of Chicago to purchase Sue's fossils for them to be preserved for research and public display. Sue was one of the most expensive dinosaur fossils ever sold and she likely would have never made her public debut if it were not for Disney's significant donation. Disney also played a role is the preparation of Sue's display, in partnership with the Field Museum of Chicago. Guests were able to watch actual paleontologists perform Sue's fossil preparation at the Fossil Preparation Lab attraction in DinoLand U.S.A in 1998. When Sue's preparation was completed, one of her casts was displayed outside of the DINOSAUR/Countdown to Extinction attraction. It is the only cast of Sue that displays her in a running motion, which is also really unique.

It is distressing to think that Disney would possibly destroy the amazing fossils and fossil casts that they own. Even if they don't destroy them and sell them instead, it would still demonstrate that the company does not appreciate the scientific and historical gold mine that they own and have contributed to. These unique displays and thematic experiences provided with these fossils and fossil casts have entertained and educated the millions of guests that have entered Disney's Animal Kingdom. If they could at least continue to display one specimen in the park, it should be Sue. Tyrannosaurus rex Sue has a significant historical connection with the Walt Disney Company and Disney's Animal Kingdom. I believe that she could be displayed in the open space that is just to the right of the entrance of the Conservation Station. The public should be able to have the opportunity to learn about Sue and Disney's role in the acquisition, preservation, and legacy of one of the most important paleontological finds of all time. Additionally, dinosaurs and prehistoric life should be represented at Disney's Animal Kingdom. If we don't learn about and appreciate past life on Earth, it is difficult to fully understand and conserve the flora and fauna that exists today. I encourage everyone to contact Disney to inspire them to properly preserve and display the fossils and fossil casts that they own.
 
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TrainsOfDisney

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According to the signs - these eggs are real and on loan. There’s a crazy amount of legit stuff in the displays.
 

WorldExplorer

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I want to make some snarky comment about "um yeah but are they gonna sell toys?" but dinosaur fossils absolutely do sell toys yet here we are.

How would you recommend contacting Disney for this? I don't expect it to work, but I am willing to at least say I tried.
 

JIMINYCR

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What makes you think Dis would just trash these? I very much doubt Dis would just throw out fossils and casts which are valuable and treasured by the scientific community. Dis often disposes of props and attraction parts when they are torn down but those things don't have much value other than maybe being placed in another queue.
 

HM GhostHostess

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According to the signs - these eggs are real and on loan. There’s a crazy amount of legit stuff in the displays.
Thankfully all of these items in the display cases in the DINOSAUR queue are on loan from museums and universities, so I know they should be returned to their rightful owners. I worry about all of the things that Disney owns and I hope they would be given the same amount of care and respect in their future.
 

HM GhostHostess

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I want to make some snarky comment about "um yeah but are they gonna sell toys?" but dinosaur fossils absolutely do sell toys yet here we are.

How would you recommend contacting Disney for this? I don't expect it to work, but I am willing to at least say I tried.
They really have dropped the ball on this. You'd be hard-pressed find a person that doesn't like dinosaurs at all. Well, except for the people in the Disney company in charge of closing the Universe of Energy, Virtual Jungle Cruise at DisneyQuest (featured time traveling and lots of dinos), DinoLand U.S.A, etc. They seem to really hate prehistoric life.

I would reach out to Walt Disney World Guest Communications via email or mail to express your concerns.
 

HM GhostHostess

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Original Poster
What makes you think Dis would just trash these? I very much doubt Dis would just throw out fossils and casts which are valuable and treasured by the scientific community. Dis often disposes of props and attraction parts when they are torn down but those things don't have much value other than maybe being placed in another queue.
Unfortunately, Disney has a history of destroying valuable art that they owned, so it wouldn't be too much of a leap for them to destroy fossils and fossil casts. Consider the fact that they completely demolished The Boneyard in a very short span of time. I would think that carefully removing and preserving all of the fossil casts embedded into the rockwork of The Boneyard would likely take longer. Additionally, they have not been transparent about what is happening to these fossils and casts.
 

WorldExplorer

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They really have dropped the ball on this. You'd be hard-pressed find a person that doesn't like dinosaurs at all. Well, except for the people in the Disney company in charge of closing the Universe of Energy, Virtual Jungle Cruise at DisneyQuest (featured time traveling and lots of dinos), DinoLand U.S.A, etc. They seem to really hate prehistoric life.

I would reach out to Walt Disney World Guest Communications via email or mail to express your concerns.

Literally half the land was dedicated to the fact that it's easy to make money off of dinosaurs.

Then Disney gives up on making money off of dinosaurs.

Is the Carnatourous fossil in the pre show room real? It doesn’t say it’s cast?

I don't remember where I read it, but I'm pretty sure it's a modified t rex skeleton.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
They really have dropped the ball on this. You'd be hard-pressed find a person that doesn't like dinosaurs at all. Well, except for the people in the Disney company in charge of closing the Universe of Energy, Virtual Jungle Cruise at DisneyQuest (featured time traveling and lots of dinos), DinoLand U.S.A, etc. They seem to really hate prehistoric life.

I would reach out to Walt Disney World Guest Communications via email or mail to express your concerns.
To be fair, that seems to be a phenomenon that's only occurred since 2006... 🤔
 

JIMINYCR

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Unfortunately, Disney has a history of destroying valuable art that they owned, so it wouldn't be too much of a leap for them to destroy fossils and fossil casts. Consider the fact that they completely demolished The Boneyard in a very short span of time. I would think that carefully removing and preserving all of the fossil casts embedded into the rockwork of The Boneyard would likely take longer. Additionally, they have not been transparent about what is happening to these fossils and casts.
In the beginning of its existence, Disney didn't see the value in its historical items and even Walt himself didnt see value in items that we now would treasure. Much sadly was trashed in the early days. But Disney since then has wisened up and has been careful about disposing of things of value. They have donated millions of $$$ in animation pieces from their archives, sculptures, paintings, books and assorted art pieces to various museums and charitable organizations. These fossils that are rare certainly won't end up in a landfill somewhere.
Disney doesn't need to be transparent at this time about what they intend on doing. It will take time to properly assess what they have and where and who these pieces will be best handed off to.
 

HM GhostHostess

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Original Poster
In the beginning of its existence, Disney didn't see the value in its historical items and even Walt himself didnt see value in items that we now would treasure. Much sadly was trashed in the early days. But Disney since then has wisened up and has been careful about disposing of things of value. They have donated millions of $$$ in animation pieces from their archives, sculptures, paintings, books and assorted art pieces to various museums and charitable organizations. These fossils that are rare certainly won't end up in a landfill somewhere.
Disney doesn't need to be transparent at this time about what they intend on doing. It will take time to properly assess what they have and where and who these pieces will be best handed off to.
Despite doing better at preserving things related to animation, there still seems to be a lot of carelessness when it comes to preserving art that has been in the parks. Only a few things are archived when they demolish park attractions and lands. Major unique art pieces from the parks have been destroyed, such as the Horizons mural, the sculptures on the Disney-MGM Studios/Hollywood Studios archway, the Diggs County billboard at DinoLand USA, etc. These things should have been archived, returned to their original artists, or sold to museums or private collectors.

I feel that in order to maintain trust with the public, including in scientific circles, they should at least reassure everyone that these fossils and fossil casts are going to be properly preserved and provide a hint as to where they might possibly go. To my knowledge, there is no publicly available information from Disney on what is happening to these items, including the ones in attractions like The Boneyard that closed months ago. Again, given the fact that they destroyed these areas very quickly, I doubt there was much careful preservation going on. I just hope that they can provide some information on what will happen to the remaining items before they start ripping out things inside DINOSAUR and the Restaurantosaurus.
 

Figments Friend

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Surprised nobody has commented….or perhaps folks here don’t know what that ‘red X’ means?

The Sue mount is to be destroyed.
That is the ‘Demo’ X…’not to be saved / archived’.

Some things to be aware of -

This display is one of only two reproduction casts made from the original ‘Sue’ T-Rex skeleton.
The reason it even exsists is because this display was a gift from the Field Museum in Chicago who own the original fossil to the Disney Company.
Disney was one of the major financial contributors that helped to acquire these historically important fossils to begin with.

DAK Cast Members were being told less then a year ago that this display was going to be returned to the Field Museum once Dinoland closed.

The reason this ‘Sue’ is not being sent to a museum for display, or even donated to one is because to mount has been altered / repaired / slightly changed over the years and does not qualify as a museum quality piece.
Or so I have been told….

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