Skyliner Possible Expansion Routes

Andrew25

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Drew up a few Blue Sky Skyliner routes... let me know if you have a better route.
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UNCgolf

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I don't see any of these happening; indications have been that they aren't really interested in expanding the Skyliner (other than maybe a couple of small spurs off the existing routes).

I assume because of a combination of the weather disruption issues and the time required. Some of the routes you've drawn there could potentially take 20+ minutes (going between AK/Disney Springs, e.g.).

I think there's a diminishing level of interest as the time commitment increases -- I think even some people that really love the system would balk at having to ride it for 25-30 minutes.
 

Andrew25

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I don't see any of these happening; indications have been that they aren't really interested in expanding the Skyliner (other than maybe a couple of small spurs off the existing routes).

I assume because of a combination of the weather disruption issues and the time required. Some of the routes you've drawn there could potentially take 20+ minutes (going between AK/Disney Springs, e.g.).

I think there's a diminishing level of interest as the time commitment increases -- I think even some people that really love the system would balk at having to ride it for 25-30 minutes.
I've taken bus rides throughout the property... and it's not any better time-wise.

I think some of these routes are to ambitious, but I don't think Skyliner expanding elsewhere is out of the question.

I do agree we'll see some spurs from the existing route first.
 

Splashin' Ryan

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I think a direct epcot to springs line could be a great option, especially if disney ever builds the looooong rumored front entrance gate hotel, it could connect directly to that.
 

UNCgolf

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I've taken bus rides throughout the property... and it's not any better time-wise.

I think some of these routes are to ambitious, but I don't think Skyliner expanding elsewhere is out of the question.

I do agree we'll see some spurs from the existing route first.

It's not just about the time commitment alone, though. There's a very big difference between waiting at a bus stop and then riding a bus for 30 total minutes (or even being on a bus for 30 minutes, although I've definitely never been on a Disney bus for 30 minutes and I'm not sure that would ever happen barring some kind of traffic incident) vs. being in a Skyliner cabin for 30 minutes. There are likely a number of people who will happily ride a gondola for 10 minutes that will not want to ride in one for 30.

Regardless, some insiders here already said Disney was currently uninterested in major Skyliner expansions, which makes sense from a business perspective -- they're not exactly ideal transportation in Florida where they have regular service stoppages for half the year.

It would be significantly more expensive, but some kind of light rail system that connected the parks and resorts would be a better long-term investment.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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I think a direct epcot to springs line could be a great option, especially if disney ever builds the looooong rumored front entrance gate hotel, it could connect directly to that.
It’s highly doubtful Disney would have any interest in connecting gated areas with an open shopping area…whether it makes sense or not

It’s also highly doubtful they ever build a regular hotel again

They can’t fill what they have. Prices are already beyond their market
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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It would be significantly more expensive, but some kind of light rail system that connected the parks and resorts would be a better long-term investment.

Indeed. This has always been the way.

The best idea is some type of “pod” system that can be controlled via computer and route people to different locations through centralized switches. I believe the PRT at Heathrow was used as an example?

But we live in a different world…and it’s not Walt’s

There was a time when the Fed or state government would finance development of such projects as research/investment opportunities…now we have a debt ridden, backward culture of political “owning” and rear facing corporate interests to preserve outdated profit engines.

Disney would never pay to build such things now. Quarterly dogs run by a shill board and and an egomaniac with no checks
 

Splashin' Ryan

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not a chance of ever having a skyliner route that connects a park to disney springs.... no free parking allowed to get into the parks.
No it is definitely possible if you just stop and think of some options for a second. They could turn/build another parking garage that charges a discounted parking rate while keeping the other garages free. I can assure you that the extra revenue just from more people being at springs would offset the "money lost" from free or discounted parking.

I also would not put it above Disney to start charging for parking at springs as a whole if they eventually get that train station or other amenities.

They already have people park at Springs for free and travel to the resorts on buses and then to the parks on buses anyways so this wouldnt be much different...
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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No it is definitely possible if you just stop and think of some options for a second. They could turn/build another parking garage that charges a discounted parking rate while keeping the other garages free. I can assure you that the extra revenue just from more people being at springs would offset the "money lost" from free or discounted parking.

I also would not put it above Disney to start charging for parking at springs as a whole if they eventually get that train station or other amenities.

They already have people park at Springs for free and travel to the resorts on buses and then to the parks on buses anyways so this wouldnt be much different...

…you’re officially “reaching” now
 

Andrew25

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Original Poster
This would also kill the Blizzard Beach idea (sadly; it needs an easier way to get there); they would need to make parking there paid otherwise everyone would just flood it.
I didn't think of that, but that's an easy operational adjustment with only resort guests & guests with tickets being able to utilize that station.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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So, how many more years until they just give up on the Skyliner? I'm betting about 8 more years until something happens on the line. Disney thinks it's unsafe they close it down as busses become the norm once again saving billions in electrical costs and be as extinct as the one like in MK and DL..
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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The best idea is some type of “pod” system that can be controlled via computer and route people to different locations through centralized switches. I believe the PRT at Heathrow was used as an example?
I think this is the likely future, they are testing Zoox in Vegas now (autonomous pods that use existing roads) and I could see these replacing the buses used at WDW eventually. Walking out to the bus stop to an already waiting driverless car that would go to whatever park you selected would likely be the most efficient system they could have, add a few zoox only roads to avoid the pinch points and it becomes very fast also.
 

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