MK The Hall of Presidents closing for refurbishment on January 20, 2025

[AidenRodriguez731]

The attraction is not just about passing on information...I guess you could reduce all of the world down to things you can search on the internet, but that has nothing to do with living in the world and experiencing things....

Living in the world an experiencing things? are you experiencing? Presidents nodding as their name is said?

I really tried to like this attraction but I can't find anything that justifies it that couldn't be replaced with a much better, more popular, or funnier experience. Muppets is a fun take on the show that has precedent near presidents (ha). I would much prefer a show with the Muppets trying to create American History (would be even more funny if it was like a true Muppet movie with 1 human character and everyone else being muppets) Hell the show can even be educational overall still with jokes to fill in and keep everyone entertained.

Or just bulldoze the thing and make a busbar Sleepy Hollow Attraction. Super simple yet modern take on the old Fantasyland rides.

Hell. Put a Hamilton attraction in its place at this point. I would take a national treasure attraction, a Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln. Tall Tales of America attraction or American Sings if you want to go non IP. There's a lot better that can be done with this space honestly.

 

[Grimley1968]

I have a great deal of nostalgia for this attraction going back to early childhood, but being honest my nostalgia isn't necessarily tied to enjoying the presentation, etc. It may literally be more tied to the enjoyment of a cool dark experience in the middle of a hot day and possibly napping a few minutes. I can literally name the presidents in chronological order from memory without needing robots to nod at appropriate times. Walt himself used to say the park should never be finished, and something new should always be coming online. Maybe an American history themed show with Muppet involvement to make it more fun wouldn't be such a bad thing. Sam Eagle would be welcome in that space for me, as long as it's still a salute to mostly America.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Agreed. I bash "Gen Z" a lot, but what I wouldn't give to be a teenager again going to WDW!

Well... most of these generational labels are hogwash.

Yes, a generation that grew up on broadcast TV and one that grew up on VHS and cable and one that grew up on streaming will have different attitudes to content-consumption.

But that doesn't make one of those generations more industrious or lazy; kinder or meaner; thoughtful or capricious; etc...

Social scientists can't find such distinctions in the generations with regard to personality types and traits.

These so-called traits that one generation has that the other doesn't is more akin to astrology trying to define what Leos are like compared to Virgos (i.e., hogwash).

Generations have different experiences, not different traits. And within any one generation you'll find people in that generation that don't adhere to the stereotypes of them.

So, assuming someone has a particular trait because they're of a certain generation is just bigotry.

Now get off my lawn.

 

[solidyne]

Well... most of these generational labels are hogwash.

Yes, a generation that grew up on broadcast TV and one that grew up on VHS and cable and one that grew up on streaming will have different attitudes to content-consumption.

But that doesn't make one of those generations more industrious or lazy; kinder or meaner; thoughtful or capricious; etc...

Social scientists can't find such distinctions in the generations with regard to personality types and traits.

These so-called traits that one generation has that the other doesn't is more akin to astrology trying to define what Leos are like compared to Virgos (i.e., hogwash).

Generations have different experiences, not different traits. And within any one generation you'll find people in that generation that don't adhere to the stereotypes of them.

So, assuming someone has a particular trait because they're of a certain generation is just bigotry.

Now get off my lawn.

Um, hence my scare quotes. Also my confessed "bashing" is a kind of admission of guilt.

 

[Ayla]

Well... most of these generational labels are hogwash.

Yes, a generation that grew up on broadcast TV and one that grew up on VHS and cable and one that grew up on streaming will have different attitudes to content-consumption.

But that doesn't make one of those generations more industrious or lazy; kinder or meaner; thoughtful or capricious; etc...

Social scientists can't find such distinctions in the generations with regard to personality types and traits.

These so-called traits that one generation has that the other doesn't is more akin to astrology trying to define what Leos are like compared to Virgos (i.e., hogwash).

Generations have different experiences, not different traits. And within any one generation you'll find people in that generation that don't adhere to the stereotypes of them.

So, assuming someone has a particular trait because they're of a certain generation is just bigotry.

Now get off my lawn.

Different experiences produce different traits.

 

[solidyne]

[...] I can literally name the presidents in chronological order from memory [...]

"Washington, Adams, Tho–mas Jefferson..."

 

[The Mom]

Please stay on topic, and remember no politics or social issues, please.

 

[Dranth]

Let me preface this by saying I really like the HoP, at least when there aren't people in there ruining it for others, but times have changed and it just isn't as appealing to folks these days.

Ignore everything else for a moment and just look at it from a business perspective. It is in a prime area of the park with high traffic that seems to sit half empty all day. It receives some of the lowest guest scores out of all the attractions at the MK coming in tied with Magic Carpets of Aladdin. Think about that a minute, overall guests like Aladdin just as much as HoP.

So why not target Aladdin instead of HoP? Easy, HoP is a large enough space to make a difference.

Just looking at a list of all the attractions that are still operational at the MK that have the same or lower guest rating as HoP (according to TP) we have:

• HoP - 3.8
• Tom Sawyer Island - 3.8 (being replaced)
• Magic Carpets of Aladdin - 3.8
• Swiss Family Treehouse - 3.5
• Liberty Square Riverboat - 3.7 (being replaced)
• Barnstormer - 3.6
• Tomorrowland Speedway - 3.5
• Astro Orbiter - 3.5

Of those that are not already being replaced, only one would have an equal or larger impact and that is the Tomorrowland Speedway. Everything else is either too small a footprint or serves a very specific niche (Barnstormer as a kid’s coaster for example).

Seems like it is just a matter of time to me.

 

[Bocabear]

I would think the completely shuttered Stitch's Great Escape would be a higher priority as it stands at the entrance to Tomorrowland... And move Monsters INC while they are at it over to the new Monstropolis at DHS. Between those two attractions it is a lot of space to work with...and frankly the Speedway needs to be a better attraction or be redeveloped.... to me, those are more pressing than HOP...