Lightning Lane Premier Pass

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
He's saving $200/night on the hotel plus roughly $50/day in free breakfast, and the hotel had a shuttle. I don't think the cost of transportation to/from the parks is a concern. :rolleyes:
Again i was talking about an apples to apples comparison so feel free to roll your eyes all you want. So a room that holds 4 ie a value resort vs a similar resort off property. Ubers/Lyfts also cut into the savings. I was just curious how much “cheaper” places were bc Values can be cheap as well
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Again i was talking about an apples to apples comparison so feel free to roll your eyes all you want. So a room that holds 4 ie a value resort vs a similar resort off property. Ubers/Lyfts also cut into the savings. I was just curious how much “cheaper” places were bc Values can be cheap as well

$166/night for an off-site room that holds 5 (plus breakfast is included) vs. $380/night for an on-site room that holds 5. Is that not an apples-to-apples comparison? A Disney value room cannot accommodate 5 people, so why you're carrying on about value rooms is beyond rational comprehension.

But... If only there was a way that someone could look up hotel room prices for comparison's sake...

 

Chi84

Premium Member
Not necessarily. There is many posters here who are regular visitors who never buy MP or PP. They rope drop or go late in the evening.
But the posters here are just a very small percentage of the guests who buy DVC or stay in deluxe resorts.

What percentage of guests now buy MP and SP? I don’t see forcing that many people into either buying PP or standing in lines as something Disney would do.

It’s kind of like when you were suggesting a Universal model for Disney but with no perks for those in deluxe resorts or DVC.
 

Jrb1979

Well-Known Member
But the posters here are just a very small percentage of the guests who buy DVC or stay in deluxe resorts.

What percentage of guests now buy MP and SP? I don’t see forcing that many people into either buying PP or standing in lines as something Disney would do.

It’s kind of like when you were suggesting a Universal model for Disney but with no perks for those in deluxe resorts or DVC.
While it is a small percentage of guests. I would counter your point in that there is no perks for staying on site, other than the free transportation.

It would be interesting to know how many are buying the Premier Pass over MP and SP
 

Chi84

Premium Member
While it is a small percentage of guests. I would counter your point in that there is no perks for staying on site, other than the free transportation.

It would be interesting to know how many are buying the Premier Pass over MP and SP
I was referring to Universal having the free perk with Express Pass. Of course they also don’t sell DVC.

My point is that a large percentage of WDW guests stay in deluxe resorts or DVC and do so for a week or more with larger parties.

Eliminating MP and SP would force these people to choose between (1) an amount few would be willing to pay in addition to an expensive resort stay with multiple people and (2) standing in lines.

Disney has done some silly things in the last few years but I don’t see them doing something that would be detrimental to that demographic.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
While it is a small percentage of guests. I would counter your point in that there is no perks for staying on site, other than the free transportation.

It would be interesting to know how many are buying the Premier Pass over MP and SP
& even that perk is far from something great as the service at times is terrible and plenty simply just use uber/lyft as its not that expensive at all to & from parks
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
While it is a small percentage of guests. I would counter your point in that there is no perks for staying on site, other than the free transportation.

It would be interesting to know how many are buying the Premier Pass over MP and SP
Count me as part of the group that will come significantly less often if they eliminate LLMP (or anything similar). I have a 2 year old and as such I just won't wait in a line over 20 mins long (its just not worth it with a toddler). Add in the fact that leaving the park after ~7:30pm makes the next day awful, so I choose not to do that. Add those 2 things together and without LLMP, G+, or FP+ or whatever is next, a Disney World trip stops being worth it.

As far as on site perks, don't forget about early entry, the LL 7 day window, proximity to the parks, theming of the resorts, and so on. I personally didn't find the value in staying onsite last trip... but it is more than just free transportation.
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
LLPP is a limited offering so by definition the average guest doesn't use this.

I think everyone in the conversation has to reframe their perspective.
Not only is LLPP a limited offering as Disney determines how many they want to sell, its WAY TOO EXPENSIVE especially for families.
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
Again i was talking about an apples to apples comparison so feel free to roll your eyes all you want. So a room that holds 4 ie a value resort vs a similar resort off property. Ubers/Lyfts also cut into the savings. I was just curious how much “cheaper” places were bc Values can be cheap as well
The problem is I'm not sure what your apples to apples is. Maybe the Maingate Lakeside Resort? Outdoor access to rooms, two pools, a restaurant, arcade, and free shuttle. But, it has a free breakfast, it has a gym, and the rooms are still about 10% bigger. That goes for under $60, so still would be a pretty large difference.
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
The problem is I'm not sure what your apples to apples is. Maybe the Maingate Lakeside Resort? Outdoor access to rooms, two pools, a restaurant, arcade, and free shuttle. But, it has a free breakfast, it has a gym, and the rooms are still about 10% bigger. That goes for under $60, so still would be a pretty large difference.
Thats a fair question. Listen i know nothing off site is going to have the theming and disney themed resort even as simple as a value resort i was asking in regards to the hotel itself like not a dive hotel. One that is nice clean not small and accommodating and relatively close. So if you can get that for $60 (all in) vs $160 yes thats a nice savings. Ive never looked tbh nor do i know anyone who has when going on a Disney trip. So $100 less whatever transportation cost. I guess if you are looking to save and cut corners this is not a bad option. Just not for me but thank you everyone for the insight to outside resorts and prices
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
Thats a fair question. Listen i know nothing off site is going to have the theming and disney themed resort even as simple as a value resort i was asking in regards to the hotel itself like not a dive hotel. One that is nice clean not small and accommodating and relatively close. So if you can get that for $60 (all in) vs $160 yes thats a nice savings. Ive never looked tbh nor do i know anyone who has when going on a Disney trip. So $100 less whatever transportation cost. I guess if you are looking to save and cut corners this is not a bad option. Just not for me but thank you everyone for the insight to outside resorts and prices
You are big on transportation costs, but I would bet the cost in transportation at a minimum is a wash with the cost of breakfast.

I can personally say that we would choose offsite over values without thinking twice. For the same price you can get rooms 50% bigger with SIGNIFICANTLY better amenities. Things like indoor access, a microwave, a fridge, nice fitness center, and similar transportation. If we compare to moderates, it at least gets to be a better fight (though the fridge and AC thing is such a deal breaker to me at this point).
 

Splash4eva

Well-Known Member
You are big on transportation costs, but I would bet the cost in transportation at a minimum is a wash with the cost of breakfast.

I can personally say that we would choose offsite over values without thinking twice. For the same price you can get rooms 50% bigger with SIGNIFICANTLY better amenities. Things like indoor access, a microwave, a fridge, nice fitness center, and similar transportation. If we compare to moderates, it at least gets to be a better fight (though the fridge and AC thing is such a deal breaker to me at this point).
When i go to Disney honestly im barely in room or use pools if ever. Hence why i stay Value. Regarding transportation i actually rent a car always so i factor that into my trip cost etc because im sure others may stay off property and say hotel only cost me this then have to pay for other things bc of it. Again to each is their own. I was just wondering what savings others were seeing. Also the free breakfast is a nice perk not sure what they are offering tho
 

TheMaxRebo

Well-Known Member
When i go to Disney honestly im barely in room or use pools if ever. Hence why i stay Value. Regarding transportation i actually rent a car always so i factor that into my trip cost etc because im sure others may stay off property and say hotel only cost me this then have to pay for other things bc of it. Again to each is their own. I was just wondering what savings others were seeing. Also the free breakfast is a nice perk not sure what they are offering tho

Generally included is a buffet - will have some hot food (eggs, breakfast meats, maybe potatoes), and a lot hav make your own Mickey Waffles, will have cereal, Yoghurts, pastries, etc

Usually nothing amazing but enough options that everyone can find something and fill you up

Definitely depends on your situation but a nice thing to have included especially if a bigger family
 

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