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Agent H

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Maleficent- Female Identifying Performer. 5’10 to 6’1. As portrayed in the animated classic, Maleficent (muh-LEFF-uh-sint), mistress of evil...


I wonder how many auditions they sat through in which the actor introduced themselves as
"MAIL - fuh - sint" or​
"MAH - luh - FISS - sent"​
that they would put this in the call sheet?
Is this supposed to be a joke? If it isn’t color me surprised. I would never have thought it was hard to pronounce.
 

Animaniac93-98

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The 2 hour one that got cut down during cast previews (which I've never seen anything for publicly or privately, except for a friend who was at one of those previews)? Or the one we ended up with before the cut down one? The latter is probably my pick as well (I even own the CD of the cast recording), but before that you'd likely be looking into the 90's. I've always loved Dick Tracy in Diamond Double Cross myself, but it's far too obscure for most (and oddly disliked by many).

Never knew there was a 2 hour version! I'm only familiar with the public version that started in 2006/7

I don't have the physical CD, but it was released on itunes when the show opened

Had the Main Street Theater been built it presumably would have had a show of similar quality or better.
 

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Is this supposed to be a joke? If it isn’t color me surprised. I would never have thought it was hard to pronounce.
when in doubt say "half a cent" As in, you crazy (Mal) for trying to pay for these potions with half a cent.

I do find it interesting that the root word origin "mal" (sounds like "Hiya, pal!)" is not being pronounced that way. Or the same way it's said in malnourished, malfeasance and malevolent. But hey, you do you gurl!
 
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Comped

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Never knew there was a 2 hour version! I'm only familiar with the public version that started in 2006/7

Had the Main Street Theater been built it presumably would have had a show of similar quality or better.
A good friend of mine went to it, but considering the show was near 20 years old all he remembered was how long it was and that AK management protested the idea of it being a hard ticket show for logistical reasons... Annoying becaause that theatre could absolutely support a much bigger (and revenue generating) show than what's there now.

My biggest project when I was at UCF was writing a 50 page white paper/proposal about funding the theatre's construction, plus a daytime show, off a hard ticket Muppets musical (adapted from The Muppets 2011 film). Still not sure how certain people got hold of it, but that's another story. Finances were certainly in order, and the idea would have worked out well. Shame the theatre itself never went forward.
 

DisneyHead123

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It’s a question of transcription, not pronunciation. Both Brits and Americans pronounce—or are supposed to pronounce—that final syllable with a schwa (represented as “uh” in the rest of the transcription), not with the vowel sound of “sit”. Perhaps it doesn’t look so odd to an American to represent that final sound as “sint” (in other words, perhaps you’re able to interpret it as a schwa), but the only way I can read it is to rhyme with “mint”.

A cent is a penny in the US and for many rhymes with “went” (in parts the South it might be something like “say-nt”) so I think that would be the most intuitive reading for many.
 

LittleBuford

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A cent is a penny in the US and for many rhymes with “went” (in parts the South it might be something like “say-nt”) so I think that would be the most intuitive reading for many.
I’m not sure if I understand what you’re getting at, but I’m not suggesting it should be transcribed “cent”, as it isn’t pronounced with that sound either. To be fair to those who wrote the ad, I can’t think of a way of transcribing that final syllable that would make sense to most people. “Suhnt”, using the same convention for schwa that the rest of the transcription uses, looks weird because of the cluster of consonants at the end. So “sint” may have been the best available option, even if it doesn’t actually capture the sound very well.
 

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I’m not sure if I understand what you’re getting at, but I’m not suggesting it should be transcribed “cent”, as it isn’t pronounced with that sound either. To be fair to those who wrote the ad, I can’t think of a way of transcribing that final syllable that would make sense to most people. “Suhnt”, using the same convention for schwa that the rest of the transcription uses, looks weird because of the cluster of consonants at the end. So “sint” may have been the best available option, even if it doesn’t actually capture the sound very well.

What? lol "cent" would be the closest pronunciation. like send but t for d. Are we seriously having this discussion?
What does Mirror say?

Roll that beautiful bean footage:
 

LittleBuford

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when in doubt say "half a cent" As in, you crazy (Mal) for trying to pay for these potions with half a cent.

I do find it interesting that the root word origin "mal" (sounds like "Hiya, pal!)" is not being pronounced that way. Or the same way it's said in malnourished, malfeasance and malevolent. But hey, you do you gurl!
In most accents, the “mal” in “malnourished” and “malfeasance” is pronounced in the same way as “pal”. In “malevolent”, it’s pronounced with a schwa, just as it is in “maleficent”. These are known respectively as strong and weak pronunciations of the vowel. Another example: “Superman” (where “man” is pronounced to rhyme with “can”) vs. “spokesman” (where the vowel of “man” is reduced to a schwa).
 

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In most accents, the “mal” in “malnourished” and “malfeasance” is pronounced in the same way as “pal”. In “malevolent”, it’s pronounced with a schwa, just as it is in “maleficent”. These are known respectively as strong and weak pronunciations of the vowel. Another example: “Superman” (where “man” is pronounced to rhyme with “can”) vs. “spokesman” (where the vowel of “man” is reduced to a schwa).
See the video above for both Mal and cent.
 

DisneyHead123

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I’m not sure if I understand what you’re getting at, but I’m not suggesting it should be transcribed “cent”, as it isn’t pronounced with that sound either. To be fair to those who wrote the ad, I can’t think of a way of transcribing that final syllable that would make sense to most people. “Suhnt”, using the same convention for schwa that the rest of the transcription uses, looks weird because of the cluster of consonants at the end. So “sint” may have been the best available option, even if it doesn’t actually capture the sound very well.

I’m saying I don’t think a schwa vowel would be the standard pronunciation in the US. It would be “eh” vs. “ih”, which is much closer.

Maybe I misunderstood your post. Would -ent typically be “uh-nt” where you’re from? So “sent” is pronounced “sunt”?
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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There is a tendency in English for many of its dialects to turn any 'short' and unstressed vowel into a "schwa e."

And so, people wind up thinking that's the "correct" way to pronounce it. And indeed, for some words, the preponderance of everyone using the schwa makes it the standard pronunciation, such as the 'o' and the 'a' in 'woman.'

However, people don't notice that in more formal speech, such as when giving a... um... speech, speakers of English will often un-schwa the vowel and pronounce it the way they were taught back in elementary school what those vowels should sound like.

In my region of the U.S., most people pronounce "milk" as if it rhymes with "elk" and not "silk."

Personally, I pronounce "complement" and "compliment" differently rather than schwa-ing up the "e" and the "i."

And don't get me started on how often "our" gets pronounced as "are." But only in fast, colloquial conversation. Someone at a podium giving a speech will almost certainly pronounce it like it was "hour."

"Now is the time of are *hour* discontent made glorious summer by this son of York."
"Are Father, who art in heaven..."

IOW, often there are formal and informal pronunciations of words. Both are correct in their context.
 

DisneyHead123

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It is according to US dictionaries. (And I really do promise to leave it here!)
It could be that when you Google it you’re getting the transcription for your part of the world and when I Google it I’m getting something different. Or maybe it’s more traditional vs. online dictionaries. I’m only seeing “eh” (transcribed as the little symbol that looks like a backwards 3). I’m not sure, but I can’t think of any US dialect where -ent is pronounced with an “uh”. It might be “eh”, “ih”, “ay”, or the vowel might be almost omitted “diff-rnt” vs. “different”, but I’ve never heard “uh”.

Anyways, happy to leave it at that, was just curious!
 

LittleBuford

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It could be that when you Google it you’re getting the transcription for your part of the world and when I Google it I’m getting something different. Or maybe it’s more traditional vs. online dictionaries. I’m only seeing “eh” (transcribed as the little symbol that looks like a backwards 3). I’m not sure, but I can’t think of any US dialect where -ent is pronounced with an “uh”. It might be “eh”, “ih”, “ay”, or the vowel might be almost omitted “diff-rnt” vs. “different”, but I’ve never heard “uh”.

Anyways, happy to leave it at that, was just curious!
Just because you (sort of) asked, I live in the US and am using Merriam-Webster as my main reference point, though other dictionaries agree with it. The symbol you’re referring to represents the sound of E in the word “cent”, which isn’t the sound I’m taking about; I’m talking about the vowel of the final syllable of “recent” (when that vowel is sounded at all).
 
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DisneyHead123

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Just because you (sort of) asked, I live in the US and am using Merriam-Webster as my main reference point, though other dictionaries agree with it. The symbol you’re referring to represents the sound of E in the word “cent”, which isn’t the sound I’m taking about; I’m talking about the vowel of the final syllable of “recent” (when that vowel is sounded at all).
Interesting. I would say re-sint for recent but re-sunt doesn’t sound as unusual to me. I think as the syllable count goes up I can hear a hypothetical schwa vowel a bit more, although to my mind it would sound like someone using a historical pronunciation for dramatic effect. Magnificent as “mag-nif-i-sunt”, for example.
 

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