That’s not what is commonly meant by scope cutting. Proposals are devised with a budget in mind, and while there might be multiple proposals to pick from with different budgets attached, scope cuts occur after a given proposal and its budget have been approved and are generally the result of overruns, unforeseen issues, etc.
I was told by folks smarter then me here that projects are scope cut when they have run out of money (or will run out ) of the money that was budgeted for a given attraction and they need to scope cut to fit the budget.
The budget is devised as part of the proposal based on the expected spend. The "spreadsheeters", as you call them, do not come up with how much a specific project will cost; they allocate what they are told the budget will be by the designers when a project is approved. Budgets are supposed to account for things like research and development, the build schedule, anticipated pricing changes over time, etc., but they are obviously not always perfect. Scope cuts occur when the costs exceed the original ask.
You act like Imagineering isn't already requesting hundreds of millions for these projects.
The point is that the upthread suggestion was that the purse strings were held too tightly when, within the context of any given project, they are held exactly as tightly as requested in the proposal. You can argue that others are at fault with regard to total spend on the parks and resorts, but that's a separate issue.
Maybe they should have considered that before moving forward on this project...
TBH, I have no idea how it works, but if imagineering could “request” a budget, they would request way more than they need to be able to end up with enough of a budget to do something with.
You act like they just ask for a random dollar amount with no further elaboration. They show their work in great detail, and if something they ask for is tremendously out of step with reality, they'll of course be questioned about it. Regardless, by the time you as a layperson start seeing plan-based artwork or (especially) a model, everything shown is part of the proposal and has ostensibly been accounted for in the approved budget.
I feel like you've raised this exact topic before, but I guess the answer needs repeating. EPCOT's 40th is one of the rare instances of genuine budget cuts after project initiation, resulting from their response to COVID. While Ratatouille, Space 220, Cosmic Rewind, Journey of Water, and CommuniCore East escaped largely unscathed from the original budget plans, everything else was cancelled, delayed indefinitely, or hastily reworked to cost much less (PLAY!, Poppins, Celebration Gardens, Spaceship Earth, Festival Center, etc.). In this case, it had nothing to do with them cutting scope due to running out of the funds that were originally requested; previously allocated funds were pulled back.
This is insightful, thank you.
This is a good time to promote watching “Disneyland Handcrafted”, that excellent documentary on the construction of Disneyland. Incredible watch, even just for the sheer bravery, risk taking and overall disregard for strict budget of everyone involved. It paid off. They built something great and it only took them a year. Funny how times change and how change isn’t always a good thing.
If you have no idea how it works then why keep making comments about it?
Snacks will potentially happen, but I'm almost positive there will be no large quick service.
he spent his own cash sometimes too…. Steam Trains, Riverboat, monorail are examples.
It feels like each land is supposed to have one signature quick service, so you've got Casey's Corner, Cosmic Ray's, Village Haus, Columbia Harbor House, Pecos Bill, and the now-missing Adventureland Veranda. Since Piston Peak is part of Frontierland, it is very unlikely they'd include one due to redundancy, plus the footprint we've seen thus far just doesn't seem to support it. For Villains, I'm thinking they'll perhaps forgo quick service in favor of table service and snacks, or if there is a QS, it'll lack a significant seating area like some of the lesser ones elsewhere in the park.
