Imminent Changes to Peter Pans Flight

[Captain Neo]

I'd expect the Native Americans to be changed.

Uh there’s no America in Neverland my dude

 

[Brer Oswald]

I doubt it. As someone who grew up in the UK, where the official video was easy to buy, I can say with confidence that the film’s availability did not make it popular or well know. Everyone in the UK has seen or heard of Dumbo and Peter Pan; that can’t be said of Song of the South. It must also be acknowledged that the issue with the latter film is its entire setup and framing, whereas in the case of the two animated features, the problematic elements are relatively limited and self-contained.

The Indigenous stereotype sequences cannot be “contained”. If you took them out, 2/3rds of the movie would be gone. You’d also have no context as to why Wendy became disillusioned with Peter Pan or Neverland.

The Dumbo sequence is also hard to remove, but it can relatively be “contained”.

 

[JohnD]

Uh there’s no America in Neverland my dude

We just can't keep up! That would be like calling black skinned people in the UK, Jamaica, or even Africa, "African Americans". Um, no.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Do we know for sure if it's reopening Aug 21st, or is that how far out the calendar goes?

 

[LittleBuford]

The Indigenous stereotype sequences cannot be “contained”. If you took them out, 2/3rds of the movie would be gone. You’d also have no context as to why Wendy became disillusioned with Peter Pan or Neverland.

The Dumbo sequence is also hard to remove, but it can relatively be “contained”.

By "contained", I don't mean removable. I mean they form distinct elements that are arguably (and I accept it's a matter of opinion) less pervasive and therefore easier to overlook/accept in the context of the otherwise stellar films to which they belong. With SotS, it's the other way around: the good bits are the animated sequences, while everything that surrounds them is the issue.

 

[DCBaker]

Do we know for sure if it's reopening Aug 21st, or is that how far out the calendar goes?

It's the first day operational hours are showing and it is no longer listed on the refurbishment calendar:

 

[Unbanshee]

Do we know for sure if it's reopening Aug 21st, or is that how far out the calendar goes?

Don't believe what that other site writes. They have no idea what they're talking about

 

[wedenterprises]

Uh there’s no America in Neverland my dude

There's no India either

 

[Magenta Panther]

It has animatronics.

That have to (shudder) be MAINTAINED.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

They'll all get built only if they can be monetized.

 

[doctornick]

They'll all get built only if they can be monetized.

Well they allow for either direct single LL sales and/or increased capacity for Multi pass (and well as “new stuff” to market it) that can allow for more sales there. So sure that can lead to more money.

 

[Dranth]

I agree. Especially if they all eat crowds.

Gross.

 

[bwr827]

Gross.

What’s gross — the phrase “eating people”?

 

[Kev1982]

The Indigenous stereotype sequences cannot be “contained”. If you took them out, 2/3rds of the movie would be gone. You’d also have no context as to why Wendy became disillusioned with Peter Pan or Neverland.

The Dumbo sequence is also hard to remove, but it can relatively be “contained”.

I cant wait untill this protesting generation gets replaced by a new one who will in their turn critisize what is happening now. You can find something in everything if you look for it. I choose not to and enjoy mivies from the past without judgement.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

I cant wait untill this protesting generation gets replaced by a new one who will in their turn critisize what is happening now. You can find something in everything if you look for it. I choose not to and enjoy mivies from the past without judgement.

 

[Tha Realest]

I cant wait untill this protesting generation gets replaced by a new one who will in their turn critisize what is happening now.

I don’t think that will happen, as most of the modern inoffensive content is instantly forgettable.

 

[JenniferS]

I cant wait untill this protesting generation gets replaced by a new one who will in their turn critisize what is happening now. You can find something in everything if you look for it. I choose not to and enjoy mivies from the past without judgement.

I'm the same; and that which I do not enjoy or condone, I just don't watch. It's not my place to decree that what I personally find offensive has to be offensive to everybody else.

My future daughter-in-law is Native North American, and she is seldom aggrieved by the things that others have decided should offend her.

 

[pinnocchiosdad]

Trust me, this is all about getting rid of the red faced Indians with big noses.

 

[Moth]

I'll eat a hat if the scene remains after the refurb and pray for the mods/admins to keep the peace if the scene is removed.

 

[Kev1982]

Trust me, this is all about getting rid of the red faced Indians with big noses.

I hope not. Hope they will update the peter pan figures as they are so outdated. Went a lot of times on it in paris so didnt ever queue in florida but did this month and I couldn’t believe how old they are…