MK Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack

JD80

JD80

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flynnibus said:
"You also have to consider about BTM is space. There isn't much space for more people to do more work. Like literal space where people can stand and do things"

Solution: you don't work at the same time... but you're right... "sigh"
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You think major progress can be had in a second shift, in an outdoor construction project in an operating themepark?

edit to add: Yes there is work done at different hours, but I don't think doubling the crew would gain you any meaningful ROI.
 
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flynnibus

flynnibus

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Just saying people are trying to authoritatively speak on the utilization of the project time and space… and people really don’t even know the daily cadence of the site. Credibility of knowing how fast disney is going vs potential… not so good….

Like i said, they don’t limit themselves to working only at night when working off stage…. Sometimes even on stage. This site is largely separated from guest access. I imagine one of the biggest issues is there is little area to put stuff down within the attraction’s footprint
 
JoeCamel

JoeCamel

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flynnibus said:
Just saying people are trying to authoritatively speak on the utilization of the project time and space… and people really don’t even know the daily cadence of the site. Credibility of knowing how fast disney is going vs potential… not so good….

Like i said, they don’t limit themselves to working only at night when working off stage…. Sometimes even on stage. This site is largely separated from guest access. I imagine one of the biggest issues is there is little area to put stuff down within the attraction’s footprint
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You don't clock in by 0700 Mickey gonna be big mad.......
 
Drew the Disney Dude

Drew the Disney Dude

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In the Parks
Yes
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Just drove past Magic Kingdom and Craney is in action! Potential new track going in today.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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JD80 said:
I've said it upthread, Tron and Epcot stuff were outliers. They were extremely public and shifted public perception of project completion rate.

All project of the prior decade and most likely the next starting from about a year or two ago were generally even. 3 years for a land, 1.5 for a major refurbishmsnt.
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The comparison good or bad with the 3 year time for Epcot. Yes, they built an entire park in 3 years, but that means that at least one of the attractions took the full 3 years to build and if many have been only two, but it doesn't matter. If it took 3 years to build a complete land when they were basically working on all the attractions at the same time, what makes one think that building one would take any less time if the per attraction work staff was comparable. You know 6 or 7 attractions being built by 6 or 7 crews all at the same time and one crew building one.

And also the old one about how Disneyland was only 1 year. We all seem to forget two very important things. First the degree of sophistication between the 1955 D'land and the requirement of technology used in the shows today is not even worthy of comment. DL was basically a few buildings (very low tech) and second, a few more advanced, simple and extremely problematic engineering designs that for the first few weeks broke down as much as they operated. That is what happens when you rush production and don't test what has been built. You don't find the flaws until a whole group of people have to find out about it right in the middle of the experience.

Also a number of those being talked about like "Rise of the Resistance" and Tron and even Galaxy, crossed over in the time of Covid. Not much of anything was built during a lot of that time. I'm sure they could do it faster if it wasn't for that pesky thing like hiring extra help, training said help in all sorts of possible scenario's and just getting the bug out of things before the public was involved. I'm sure that Epic Universal was built the same way all the other Disney parks were built with massive numbers of overlapping construction with a large workforce of hundreds of workers all at the same time. There are just so many that can be present on a singular jobsite before they all just get in each others way and cannot accomplish anything. Also, when they are building a whole park they can do that in the daytime whereas something built in an existing land is usually done at night. Highly skilled people needed to build these high tech attractions of today are in high demand and it's hard to put together a highly skilled group of people that are willing to work at night and those that do are very well paid explaining some of the ridicules cost of building an attraction..
 

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