MK Big Thunder Mountain to receive full retrack

[James Alucobond]

Which is why I said that it is possible they can speed up on Thunder Mountain, but it is also possible that they cannot. I have no idea where they are on the continuum, but the point is that construction cannot always go faster with more money.

 

[mysto]

Get it done fast.
Done well.
Done cheap.

Pick two.

 

[DisneyCane]

I've seen major highway intersection/overpass projects done from scratch in less time than this retrack might take.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Or, that’s an indicator of nothing as some of our experts at reading these things have indicated could be the case. You may have missed it being sandwiched between all your posts saying the same glass half empty banter.

I personally don't care as I have no expectations of when this work will be done. I would not be surprised if its delayed for reasons.

I will say I would not want them to rush to finish this to make up for delays as its very important they get this right.

We have seen what happens when they rush to finish to make up for delays in the EPCOT renovation.

 

[Tha Realest]

Get it done fast.
Done well.
Done cheap.

Pick two.

Or one

 

[Disstevefan1]

Get it done fast.
Done well.
Done cheap.

Pick two.

I pick only one. Done well.

We see what happens when it’s done cheap and fast at the end to make up for delays - see the EPCOT renovation.

Besides that, there are real safety issues if they get this wrong.

 

[monothingie]

Right, but the point is that things generally happen in a set proper order, separated by inspections, revisions, etc. There is a point at which simply having more bodies on site (i.e. throwing money at the problem) does nothing if you're also following proper procedure because everything can't happen at once.

It's one thing to construct an attraction in a fully accessible construction site.

It's another thing to do it in the middle of a fully running theme park.

 

[danlb_2000]

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought this current discussion was about A new Notice of Commencement has been filed for the ongoing refurbishment of Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Magic Kingdom, and it comes with a notable change: an extended expiration date of April 15, 2026, indicating the project may take longer than originally planned?

I personally don't care as I have no expectations of when this work will be done.

Or who ever filled out the NOC decided to write in the default 1 year expiration.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I disagree that quicker automatically = shoddy and improper.

That’s a nice straw man. It’s not that quicker automatically means shoddy and improper. It means doing proper work has time limits that cannot be overcome by just throwing money at it.

The simplest example would be concrete which is the result of a chemical processes that takes time. Certain mixes and additives can alter the time involved but at some point you have to just wait. You could do it all at once (Cosmic Rewind did for its mat foundation) but it also means potentially blocking areas from additional work. Good sequencing of work is going to take into account doing work in a way to allow other work to continue in other places.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I've seen major highway intersection/overpass projects done from scratch in less time than this retrack might take.

And I’ve seen eyesores on I-4 take longer.

Construction schedules vary is the conclusion?

 

[JD80]

You also have to consider about BTM is space. There isn't much space for more people to do more work. Like literal space where people can stand and do things. There are segments of the track that can't be done until others. There is artwork that can't be done until the construction is over. etc. etc.

There are logistics and parts that needs to be ordered, corrected, changed. There are holidays and off time.

You may be able to spend 20% (made up number) more on a project but only get it done 2 months (made up number) sooner. That's usually not a good investment.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

if you make me repeat myself multiple times… well I really don’t have the patience to spoon feed you anymore

That’s no excuse to talk to people however you please. If you can’t be nice, then don’t engage.

 

[HauntedPirate]

And I’ve seen eyesores on I-4 take longer.

 

[flynnibus]

That’s no excuse to talk to people however you please. If you can’t be nice, then don’t engage.

And did you consider your own sermon before posting that?

 

[flynnibus]

Does anyone even know how many shifts are working on the site?

This is a dead-end in the park - with the site hundreds of feet from any of the open guest areas.

 

[JD80]

Sigh.

 

[flynnibus]

Sigh.

"You also have to consider about BTM is space. There isn't much space for more people to do more work. Like literal space where people can stand and do things"

Solution: you don't work at the same time... but you're right... "sigh"

 

[Disstevefan1]

Are we going to argue about this until it opens in December of 2026?
Please don't get triggered, the winky emoji means I am joking I have no idea when this will open.

 

[dmc493]

Good lord are we still back and forth on the timing thing? It was probably always planned this long, and we all stare at permit expiration dates too much and read too much into everything.

 

[JD80]

"You also have to consider about BTM is space. There isn't much space for more people to do more work. Like literal space where people can stand and do things"

Solution: you don't work at the same time... but you're right... "sigh"

You think major progress can be had in a second shift, in an outdoor construction project in an operating themepark?

edit to add: Yes there is work done at different hours, but I don't think doubling the crew would gain you any meaningful ROI.