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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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BlakeW39
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I know this is a joke, but this is actually one of my main aspects DAK IJA has to get right.
Animal Kingdom stories are about YOU going on an adventure. You are the main character. You play an active and foundational role in the plot. If DAK IJA is about Indiana Jones going on an adventure, and Indiana Jones is the main character of the ride, then it won't fit Animal Kingdom. Regardles of whether they plop an animal onto it.
The ride needs to play a lot closer to Everest than DL IJA. Its framing, perspective, and structure need to conform to DAK's narrative conventions, rather than Indy's.
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Is that a written rule somewhere?
BlakeW39
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Yes, but it also doesn't have to be. Themes aren't something that need to be spelled out to us by an author. They're underlying ideas that exist in art, which we can observe for ourselves.
Brer Panther
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That's gonna make the Encanto attraction pretty hard to make fit in Animal Kingdom too, then, won't it? If the Madrigals are the main characters of the ride and we're just going through the scenes watching them a la Under the Sea, I mean.
James Alucobond
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Indy barely shows up even in the DL attraction. I doubt him having a big presence is a possibility even if they don’t adapt the IP particularly well to the park.
We know this is not the format. It’s not a sequence of scenes from the film. It’s one scene from the film (the one with animals) teased apart into a longer scenario.
HMF
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It is whatever Joe Rohde says it is but sadly he retired so now it is whatever the Marketing people say it is.
doctornick
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BlakeW39
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Yes, simply watching Antonio's ceremony play out as it did in the film would not fit Animal Kingdom. Regardless of if there is a cartoon jaguar on the ride or something.
But from what I can tell, the Madrigal Casita won't even fit the tone and art style of the land being built around it, anymore than a cartoon pride rock would fit the tone and art style of Harambe. So even in a vaccuum, separate from the themes of DAK, I struggle to see how it'll be integrated well. And if recent Disney projects are any evidence, the answer is, not at all. Such is the problem with this patch work hodgepodge IP strategy they have going on.
BlakeW39
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Well, kind of and kind of not. Themes are just underlying ideas that are present in a work of art. DAK's themes are what they are, not because Joe Rhode told us what they are on Instagram, but because of the actual composition and narrative properties of DAK. Joe Rhode is the one who wove those themes into his work and he is more familiar with it than anyone else but if he just up and decided to say the theme of Animal Kingdom is actually the moral grey area of AI vs real intelligence... it wouldn't just become true. Not saying he would do that of course but you get what I mean.
Brer Panther
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I'm still not convinced that the Encanto ride isn't just going to be a book report of the film. It takes place on the day Antonio got his gift... just like the whole film.
Gremlin Gus
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Josh D'Amaro say something along the lines of that the ride takes place the day Antonio getting his gift and we would eventually end up in Antonio's room along with the Madrigals, which to me seems like the story of the Encanto attraction is going to expand upon that day in some way and not be a book report of the film.
lentesta
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Not counting the load/unload areas, there are 12 distinct show scenes. All of them take place in and around the Madrigal house. The big show scene is Antonio's room.
Brer Panther
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That doesn't necessarily mean the ride will focus on Antonio and his animal friends. It'll probably just be a generic tour of the house, seeing all the other Madrigals do their stuff, probably with a performance of "We Don't Talk About Bruno" thrown in for no reason, before we get to Antonio's room and then the ride ends.
Timothy_Q
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The day Antonio gets his gift is only the first act of the movie
The Family Madrigal, Colombia Mi Encanto, and Waiting on a Miracle
The rest of the movie and all other songs take place the following day
Hard to imagine them not wanting to include anything from act 2 and 3 though
James Alucobond
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We have no way of knowing if they will focus on Antonio and the animals in a manner that is thematically cohesive with Animal Kingdom, but there is literally no reason for them to carve out the slice of the film they have said they’re extracting if they’re not at least trying to do so. Concern is not unwarranted, but your continued insistence that it will be something they’ve already said it’s not is kind of silly.
Brer Panther
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Do you really think they're going to build an Encanto attraction that focuses on Antonio over the more popular merchandisable characters like Mirabel and Bruno? And without the iconic "We Don't Talk About Bruno" song?
Is Antonio even a super-popular character? Not just with the general public, but just with Encanto fans?
Is Antonio even a super-popular character? Not just with the general public, but just with Encanto fans?
Mirabel’s going to be in the ride. Bruno most likely going to at least have a cameo in the walls since the ride takes place leading up to the gift ceremony. The song is probably going to be in the queue at least.
From a glance, Antonio is probably mid tier fandom wise.
Gremlin Gus
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The ride was always going to focus on Mirabel since she's the protagonist of the film and she's popular. If they made the ride about Antonio and the rest of the Madrigals are side characters in this ride, then it really doesn't work that well and it makes more sense for Mirabel to be the main character of the ride with the rest being side characters. And I'm sure Antonio will be involved in some way, sure maybe not the main character per say, but probably important like a sidekick if that makes any sense.
I mean yeah he is, sure he's not #1 most popular, but you get people who like him because he's a cute character and all.