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peter11435

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I only know of this stuff via YouTube videos, but I thought what people really liked about the earlier ships was a “neighborhood” type setup with restaurants, bars, shops, etc. As in you went to the bars / lounges and it was like going to a Pleasure Island type district, everything was grouped together. Whereas now I’ve seen complaints that you’re in The Bayou and there are kids running around the perimeter and people rushing by shopping (I think it was The Bayou, I could be misremembering.)
Yes. That is a common and legitimate complaint regarding the adult areas. The other ships all have a centralized area with bars/lounges/clubs. With some other bars spread around the ship. On the Triton class ships these areas are spread around the ship with no centralized adult area.

This complaint doesn’t apply to shopping though.
 

DisneyHead123

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Yes. That is a common and legitimate complaint regarding the adult areas. The other ships all have a centralized area with bars/lounges/clubs. With some other bars spread around the ship. On the Triton class ships these areas are spread around the ship with no centralized adult area.

This complaint doesn’t apply to shopping though.
Ok, I’m either mixing up cruise ship reviews or read something incorrect then. Wonder why they changed the layout if the motivation wasn’t increased spending at the shops? The old setup sounds like it was very well liked.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Ok, I’m either mixing up cruise ship reviews or read something incorrect then. Wonder why they changed the layout if the motivation wasn’t increased spending at the shops? The old setup sounds like it was very well liked.
I think the woman in charge of the design of the new class of ships has admitted she had never been on a cruise ship.

You would think that would be a pre-requisite before being appointed to head up the design team. 🤷‍♀️
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
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Interesting. We ate at True True BBQ and spent most of our time on the southern end of the island. But did walk through the serenity bay area and grabbed desert. Like I said we only saw one fly. I think maybe they might be worse on the northern side. Hopefully they will continue to improve on that issue.
I did not see the first fly until I sat down with food. It was a constant battle for the next 10 minutes to avoid investing "extra protein". This puts a fair dampener on the day when eating is one of only three things on your itinerary.

I have used simple chemical fly traps with good success when flies are an issue. I have no idea if there is a scaled-up version that Disney could employ.
 

DisneyHead123

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I think the woman in charge of the design of the new class of ships has admitted she had never been on a cruise ship.

You would think that would be a pre-requisite before being appointed to head up the design team. 🤷‍♀️
She actually made that comment in the Disney+ documentary about the Wish. I think it was meant to show her journey and struggles as a point of interest, but yeah, in hindsight that seems like not the best thing to highlight. I hate to say it because I am still a pixie duster for the most part, but I can see why people accuse Disney of being out of touch with their consumer base.

In reality, I’m sure she was surrounded by people who do have tons of experience working on cruise ships. That’s kind of a given if you want the thing to do so much as float, right? But people love cruising and it’s a real lifestyle for many - highlighting that the designer seemingly had no interest in cruising seems like not the best take.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
It explains why "little" things such as the walking deck seemed okay to omit. People, who cruise a lot, really love that space to get out, see the ocean, and walk off a little of the endless food.
I used the ever-loving crap out of the one on the Magic. I started walking an hour a day about 5 weeks ago and the last thing I wanted to do was break that newly formed habit.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Ok, I’m either mixing up cruise ship reviews or read something incorrect then. Wonder why they changed the layout if the motivation wasn’t increased spending at the shops? The old setup sounds like it was very well liked.

The "premium shopping" square footage is higher on the Triton-class ships (unless they are changing it on the Treasure and Destiny) than on the original four ships. On the Magic it's a walk-by area on Deck 4. On the Wish it takes up significant space on the starboard side of Deck 3. Go look at the respective deck plans and you can see for yourself.
 

Tiggerish

Resident Redhead
Premium Member
I only know of this stuff via YouTube videos, but I thought what people really liked about the earlier ships was a “neighborhood” type setup with restaurants, bars, shops, etc. As in you went to the bars / lounges and it was like going to a Pleasure Island type district, everything was grouped together. Whereas now I’ve seen complaints that you’re in The Bayou and there are kids running around the perimeter and people rushing by shopping (I think it was The Bayou, I could be misremembering.)
It's for sure The Bayou. It's a gorgeous lounge, but it's not big enough. For some strange reason ( probably because it's centrally located) they do the arts n crafts activities in there, and there just are not enough seats. So you've got people of many ages literally seated on the floor of the corridors, with their backs up against the walls of the fancy shops, coloring or whatever the craft is. It's insane.

I can't imagine that the luxe shops are thrilled about the image of people sitting up against their frontage, conjuring the thought of actual homeless people (I live in NYC, and that is a common sight). Even if they are crafting instead of begging.

And why did they even make Luna in the form of a family venue, only to use it for "adult" evening entertainment, open to the deck above, where any passing family can "enjoy" entertainment that they may not want to partake of? Then they made Triton's Lounge, which as far as I could tell, was never in use. It would have been ideal for many of the activities that they forced into The Bayou.

Wish is one and done for me. Sadly not interested in Treasure or Destiny, if they are going to be identical. And that really does make me sad.
Yes. That is a common and legitimate complaint regarding the adult areas. The other ships all have a centralized area with bars/lounges/clubs. With some other bars spread around the ship. On the Triton class ships these areas are spread around the ship with no centralized adult area.

This complaint doesn’t apply to shopping though.
Well, yes, they put all the fancy designer shops all together. Us normies have to go upstairs to Deck 5 to find things that we'll buy, like DCL branded merch.
It explains why "little" things such as the walking deck seemed okay to omit. People, who cruise a lot, really love that space to get out, see the ocean, and walk off a little of the endless food.
The lack of a proper walking deck without stairs is the reason why I will never sail on a Triton class ship again.

And that makes me sad.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Interesting update, they did one of the Lookout Cay inaugural cruises and are back for a 3 month comparison… still some issues but they seemed to enjoy it a lot more this time.

 

DisneyHead123

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It's for sure The Bayou. It's a gorgeous lounge, but it's not big enough. For some strange reason ( probably because it's centrally located) they do the arts n crafts activities in there, and there just are not enough seats. So you've got people of many ages literally seated on the floor of the corridors, with their backs up against the walls of the fancy shops, coloring or whatever the craft is. It's insane.

I can't imagine that the luxe shops are thrilled about the image of people sitting up against their frontage, conjuring the thought of actual homeless people (I live in NYC, and that is a common sight). Even if they are crafting instead of begging.

And why did they even make Luna in the form of a family venue, only to use it for "adult" evening entertainment, open to the deck above, where any passing family can "enjoy" entertainment that they may not want to partake of? Then they made Triton's Lounge, which as far as I could tell, was never in use. It would have been ideal for many of the activities that they forced into The Bayou.

Wish is one and done for me. Sadly not interested in Treasure or Destiny, if they are going to be identical. And that really does make me sad.

Well, yes, they put all the fancy designer shops all together. Us normies have to go upstairs to Deck 5 to find things that we'll buy, like DCL branded merch.

The lack of a proper walking deck without stairs is the reason why I will never sail on a Triton class ship again.

And that makes me sad.

Wait, I’m confused… they do crafts in The Bayou? Or at a spot next door?
 

Indy_UK

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Interesting update, they did one of the Lookout Cay inaugural cruises and are back for a 3 month comparison… still some issues but they seemed to enjoy it a lot more this time.



It certainly looks a lot better with the planters filling out. The flies should be easy to sort, so surprised its still an issue.

I do feel they could make both islands a bit more exciting for the kids? Can't they have character dance parties for example?

I haven't been myself but Perfect Day at CoCoCay with Royal looks like a blast with water slides and pools to use too.
 

Two Ears

Member
It's for sure The Bayou. It's a gorgeous lounge, but it's not big enough. For some strange reason ( probably because it's centrally located) they do the arts n crafts activities in there, and there just are not enough seats. So you've got people of many ages literally seated on the floor of the corridors, with their backs up against the walls of the fancy shops, coloring or whatever the craft is. It's insane.

I can't imagine that the luxe shops are thrilled about the image of people sitting up against their frontage, conjuring the thought of actual homeless people (I live in NYC, and that is a common sight). Even if they are crafting instead of begging.

And why did they even make Luna in the form of a family venue, only to use it for "adult" evening entertainment, open to the deck above, where any passing family can "enjoy" entertainment that they may not want to partake of? Then they made Triton's Lounge, which as far as I could tell, was never in use. It would have been ideal for many of the activities that they forced into The Bayou.

Wish is one and done for me. Sadly not interested in Treasure or Destiny, if they are going to be identical. And that really does make me sad.

Well, yes, they put all the fancy designer shops all together. Us normies have to go upstairs to Deck 5 to find things that we'll buy, like DCL branded merch.

The lack of a proper walking deck without stairs is the reason why I will never sail on a Triton class ship again.

And that makes me sad.
I'm staggered the walking deck is that big a deal. There is still is a walking deck with stairs on the wish and because it goes out to the front of the ship it's kind of the same length as the other ones. Just with much better views. I can see it being an issue for those addicted to jogging and those with bad knees. But for everyone else I think it's actually better because of the views.
 

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