Disney Treasure, DCL’s 6th ship, debuts in 2024

[peter11435]

I am all for more Aladdin in our lives, but I am not sure how I feel about the abandoned asylum hallway look.

It’s not done

 

[DCLcruiser]

It’s not done

It was a joke.

 

[peter11435]

It was a joke.

Good to know. Tough to tell these days especially with some of the responses to this picture on Facebook and elsewhere.

 

[DznyGrlSD]

Disney Cruise Line has shared a new construction update on the Disney Treasure:

A few weeks ago, the final stateroom was installed on the beautiful Disney Treasure at Meyer Werft Shipyard in Papenburg, Germany. Needless to say, the process of positioning all 1,246 rooms inside the ship was quite an undertaking! It began when each cabin was prefabricated at an off-site factory on a slow-moving conveyor belt. As the cabins moved down the line, different team members went to work building out various components of the rooms, from the plumbing to the furniture and everything in between. Once each cabin was completely outfitted, they were loaded onto semi-trucks and individually transported to the yard. From there, they were carefully lifted by cranes and slotted into position within the Disney Treasure.

The progress photos show how each stateroom features a fresh, natural color scheme and custom artwork. Can you spot which Disney and Pixar films inspired the piece in the pictured room? The accommodations will soon become a home away from home for future Disney Cruise Line guests when they embark on family adventures later this year.

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is that a murphy bed by the balcony doors?

 

[Tiggerish]

is that a murphy bed by the balcony doors?

It is on the Wish, so I think it's safe to assume it'll be the same on the Treasure.

 

[mickEblu]

I think this is a common theme with Disney in general, their new stuff is still enjoyable, it’s just not as good as their old stuff. If you never experienced the old it would be great.

We enjoyed the Wish, we’d even cruise on her again, we’d rather be on any of the prior 4 though.

Do you think this applies for a one time DCL cruiser on the Dream as well? We really enjoyed the ship. Yeah the food was just Ok at best and the pools/ buffets were crowded but no complaints with the ship itself- other than the fact it could use a few more jacuzzis. My takeaway when we got back home from vacation was that I’d never fly to Florida just for a Disney cruise (and 3 days in Miami) again. Family had a great time but I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle. Now 17 months have passed and in typical fashion we forget the negative only remember the positive so I’m getting that itch again. But if we’re going to do another ship the idea is that it has to be one of the newer ships. We re willing to do one of the older ships (Magic or Wonder) if it’s leaves from San Diego so we can avoid the flight/ hassle with the kids) but those Mexican cruises are just not priced very attractively. I’m guessing that’s mostly because the only have 1 ship out here (the Wonder right now) so supply is low. I’ve also cruised the Mexican Riviera 4 times and have been to different parts of Mexico a few times

But then I come here and read some of these comments and it makes me wonder if I should I be prioritizing the Wish / Treasure to the Magic / Wonder. I think the newer ships are probably better for kids and of course they have the advantage of being new and shiny. The older ships from what I understand don’t feel as crowded and have a nice charming low key feel to them. Son would probably be bummed to to not have the Aqua Duck. The food was probably the biggest disappointment on the Dream but I I have a feeling it had something to do with timing. They were about to take it on a transatlantic trip and were in the middle of changing the menu to Mediterranean food. In fact, the last couple nights on board they switched to the more based Mediterranean options. Feels like we were kind of Guinea pigs. Is that why we got a discount? Lol. Also, the staff onboard was accustomed to doing 3 day cruises not the 7 day one we were on. Our cruise was also heavily discounted on a great Disney + deal so you have to wonder…

Anyway, the restaurants/ menus and buffet seems like they are better on the Wish. My daughter would also love the Frozen dinner show. My son would love sliding into the kids club and the Aqua Mouse. Then again avoiding a flight, driving down a couple hours to San Diego, parking my car and boarding a cruise sounds pretty great. If we were to fly to Florida I can’t see myself flying out there again without doing WDW for the first time. Especially if I’m flying in to Orlando. So it would probably have to be 4-5 days at WDW followed by a 3-4 night cruise on the Wish.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Do you think this applies for a one time DCL cruiser on the Dream as well? We really enjoyed the ship. Yeah the food was just Ok at best and the pools/ buffets were crowded but no complaints with the ship itself- other than the fact it could use a few more jacuzzis. My takeaway when we got back home from vacation was that I’d never fly to Florida just for a Disney cruise (and 3 days in Miami) again. Family had a great time but I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle. Now 17 months have passed and in typical fashion we forget the negative only remember the positive so I’m getting that itch again. But if we’re going to do another ship the idea is that it has to be one of the newer ships. We re willing to do one of the older ships (Magic or Wonder) if it’s leaves from San Diego so we can avoid the flight/ hassle with the kids) but those Mexican cruises are just not priced very attractively. I’m guessing that’s mostly because the only have 1 ship out here (the Wonder right now) so supply is low. I’ve also cruised the Mexican Riviera 4 times and have been to different parts of Mexico a few times

But then I come here and read some of these comments and it makes me wonder if I should I be prioritizing the Wish / Treasure to the Magic / Wonder. I think the newer ships are probably better for kids and of course they have the advantage of being new and shiny. The older ships from what I understand don’t feel as crowded and have a nice charming low key feel to them. Son would probably be bummed to to not have the Aqua Duck. The food was probably the biggest disappointment on the Dream but I I have a feeling it had something to do with timing. They were about to take it on a transatlantic trip and were in the middle of changing the menu to Mediterranean food. In fact, the last couple nights on board they switched to the more based Mediterranean options. Feels like we were kind of Guinea pigs. Is that why we got a discount? Lol. Also, the staff onboard was accustomed to doing 3 day cruises not the 7 day one we were on. Our cruise was also heavily discounted on a great Disney + deal so you have to wonder…

Anyway, the restaurants/ menus and buffet seems like they are better on the Wish. My daughter would also love the Frozen dinner show. My son would love sliding into the kids club and the Aqua Mouse. Then again avoiding a flight, driving down a couple hours to San Diego, parking my car and boarding a cruise sounds pretty great. If we were to fly to Florida I can’t see myself flying out there again without doing WDW for the first time. Especially if I’m flying in to Orlando. So it would probably have to be 4-5 days at WDW followed by a 3-4 night cruise on the Wish.

My initial reaction to your post is if the Dream didn’t “wow” you then DCL may not be the cruise line for you, I can’t imagine paying the huge price difference between DCL and the other lines if it didn’t wow us. I vastly prefer the older ships to the Wish, I think the Dream/Fantasy are the best of the fleet but my first cruise was on the Wonder and I absolutely loved it also. We’ve been on all 3 classes and I’d rate the Dream/Fantasy 10/10, Magic/Wonder 9/10, and the Wish a 6/10. It’s a big gap in my opinion.

Tastes are subjective so it’s possible you could try the Wish and prefer it, most reviews I’ve read place it firmly in last place though. There’s some great things on the Wish but also a lot of bizarre design choices that leave you scratching your head while your own it.

 

[mickEblu]

My initial reaction to your post is if the Dream didn’t “wow” you then DCL may not be the cruise line for you, I can’t imagine paying the huge price difference between DCL and the other lines if it didn’t wow us. I vastly prefer the older ships to the Wish, I think the Dream/Fantasy are the best of the fleet but my first cruise was on the Wonder and I absolutely loved it also. We’ve been on all 3 classes and I’d rate the Dream/Fantasy 10/10, Magic/Wonder 9/10, and the Wish a 6/10. It’s a big gap in my opinion.

Tastes are subjective so it’s possible you could try the Wish and prefer it, most reviews I’ve read place it firmly in last place though. There’s some great things on the Wish but also a lot of bizarre design choices that leave you scratching your head while your own it.

Hmmm, "Wow" is a tough mark to hit. There aren't a lot of things that Wow me. Most of the time it comes down to finding the value in something or not. It's hard to imagine anyone being Wow'd by the food we were served during my sailing. I'm by no means a food snob either. I remember thinking that the majority of snacks and food that can be found at Disneyland and DCA were tastier than what was served on the ship that week. My tastebuds were overjoyed on the last day at the Castaway Cay BBQ. Most everything I ate in the dining room landed somewhere from bland/ not good to mediocre. The service in the dining room was also just Ok. Our waiters were nice and professional but we had to remind them of stuff we asked for often and overall they just seemed kind of flustered. I don't think I'm far off with my theory of some or all this coming down to those circumstantial factors I mentioned in my last post. Our waiter (in other words) basically told us our sailing was a practice run.

How could overcrowded buffets and overcrowded pools Wow anyone? The ship was very nice but the experience didn't Wow me. As a family that loves (old) Disney, the cruise checked a lot of boxes and was fun. My kids are 8 and 3 so it would kind of feel anticlimactic to follow up a Disney cruise with a non Disney cruise.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Hmmm, "Wow" is a tough mark to hit. There aren't a lot of things that Wow me. Most of the time it comes down to finding the value in something or not. It's hard to imagine anyone being Wow'd by the food we were served during my sailing. I'm by no means a food snob either. I remember thinking that the majority of snacks and food that can be found at Disneyland and DCA were tastier than what was served on the ship that week. My tastebuds were overjoyed on the last day at the Castaway Cay BBQ. Most everything I ate in the dining room landed somewhere from bland/ not good to mediocre. The service in the dining room was also just Ok. Our waiters were nice and professional but we had to remind them of stuff we asked for often and overall they just seemed kind of flustered. I don't think I'm far off with my theory of some or all this coming down to those circumstantial factors I mentioned in my last post. Our waiter (in other words) basically told us our sailing was a practice run.

How could overcrowded buffets and overcrowded pools Wow anyone? The ship was very nice but the experience didn't Wow me. As a family that loves (old) Disney, the cruise checked a lot of boxes and was fun. My kids are 8 and 3 so it would kind of feel anticlimactic to follow up a Disney cruise with a non Disney cruise.

I haven't been on DCL in quite a few years but in the past I found the food was better than other lines on average. There weren't any menu upcharges so you'd get lobster tail one night, whereas other cruises charge for it.

Cruise ship pools are always small and crowded, I never have any desire to use them.

The kids areas are a huge draw on Disney. No one else compares.

Shows are a highlight of Disney as well. The show on my last non-Disney cruise was just five singers/dancers in front of a digital backdrop. Disney shows have good production values. A lot of them are just thin stories used to present "Disney's greatest hits" but the source material is so good you can't go wrong.

My main issue with DCL is that while it's better than most other cruise lines, it's not better to a degree that justifies the price discrepancy.

 

[mickEblu]

I haven't been on DCL in quite a few years but in the past I found the food was better than other lines on average. There weren't any menu upcharges so you'd get lobster tail one night, whereas other cruises charge for it.

Cruise ship pools are always small and crowded, I never have any desire to use them.

The kids areas are a huge draw on Disney. No one else compares.

Shows are a highlight of Disney as well. The show on my last non-Disney cruise was just five singers/dancers in front of a digital backdrop. Disney shows have good production values. A lot of them are just thin stories used to present "Disney's greatest hits" but the source material is so good you can't go wrong.

My main issue with DCL is that while it's better than most other cruise lines, it's not better to a degree that justifies the price discrepancy.

Yeah it probably was at one point. But things change. You could go to the same restaurant on the same day and have a different experience. Let alone years later. Or maybe my theory is right and the food on my sailing was below average for a typical DCL cruise. My family and I did a few Carnival cruises in the late 90s/ early 2000s and i kid you not the food was great. The 24 hours a day pizza was lightyears better than the pizza Disney serves by the pool.

I agree, I’ve never been interested in pools or jacuzzis when I sail. It always looks crowded and unpleasant. But this was my first cruise with kids and I kind of had no choice haha.

Yeah the entertainment was great. Ship is beautiful. Loved the location of our room - mid ship deck 9 - no noise. Got a crazy deal on a Verandah room.

They re pricing their 3 day cruises the way other cruise lines price 7 day cruises. When you look at it like that it’s probably not worth it.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Yeah it probably was at one point. But things change. You could go to the same restaurant on the same day and have a different experience. Let alone years later. Or maybe my theory is right and the food on my sailing was below average for a typical DCL cruise. My family and I did a few Carnival cruises in the late 90s/ early 2000s and i kid you not the food was great. The 24 hours a day pizza was lightyears better than the pizza Disney serves by the pool.

I agree, I’ve never been interested in pools or jacuzzis when I sail. It always looks crowded and unpleasant. But this was my first cruise with kids and I kind of had no choice haha.

Yeah the entertainment was great. Ship is beautiful. Loved the location of our room - mid ship deck 9 - no noise. Got a crazy deal on a Verandah room.

They re pricing their 3 day cruises the way other cruise lines price 7 day cruises. When you look at it like that it’s probably not worth it.

If you didn’t enjoy the Dream all that much and thought it was crowded, the Wish should be a non-starter. Outside of 1923, the food is no better, it feels narrower/more cramped, and there is one hot tub (that I remember)on a ship that holds more people.

 

[peter11435]

If you didn’t enjoy the Dream all that much and thought it was crowded, the Wish should be a non-starter. Outside of 1923, the food is no better, it feels narrower/more cramped, and there is one hot tub (that I remember)on a ship that holds more people.

The Wish does not hold more people than the Dream

 

[mickEblu]

If you didn’t enjoy the Dream all that much and thought it was crowded, the Wish should be a non-starter. Outside of 1923, the food is no better, it feels narrower/more cramped, and there is one hot tub (that I remember)on a ship that holds more people.

Yeah doesn’t sound like it’s worth it. Our cruise I’m 100% sure was at capacity though. Are most sailings like that?

 

[C33Mom]

Do you think this applies for a one time DCL cruiser on the Dream as well? We really enjoyed the ship. Yeah the food was just Ok at best and the pools/ buffets were crowded but no complaints with the ship itself- other than the fact it could use a few more jacuzzis. My takeaway when we got back home from vacation was that I’d never fly to Florida just for a Disney cruise (and 3 days in Miami) again. Family had a great time but I’m not sure it’s worth the hassle. Now 17 months have passed and in typical fashion we forget the negative only remember the positive so I’m getting that itch again. But if we’re going to do another ship the idea is that it has to be one of the newer ships. We re willing to do one of the older ships (Magic or Wonder) if it’s leaves from San Diego so we can avoid the flight/ hassle with the kids) but those Mexican cruises are just not priced very attractively. I’m guessing that’s mostly because the only have 1 ship out here (the Wonder right now) so supply is low. I’ve also cruised the Mexican Riviera 4 times and have been to different parts of Mexico a few times

But then I come here and read some of these comments and it makes me wonder if I should I be prioritizing the Wish / Treasure to the Magic / Wonder. I think the newer ships are probably better for kids and of course they have the advantage of being new and shiny. The older ships from what I understand don’t feel as crowded and have a nice charming low key feel to them. Son would probably be bummed to to not have the Aqua Duck. The food was probably the biggest disappointment on the Dream but I I have a feeling it had something to do with timing. They were about to take it on a transatlantic trip and were in the middle of changing the menu to Mediterranean food. In fact, the last couple nights on board they switched to the more based Mediterranean options. Feels like we were kind of Guinea pigs. Is that why we got a discount? Lol. Also, the staff onboard was accustomed to doing 3 day cruises not the 7 day one we were on. Our cruise was also heavily discounted on a great Disney + deal so you have to wonder…

Anyway, the restaurants/ menus and buffet seems like they are better on the Wish. My daughter would also love the Frozen dinner show. My son would love sliding into the kids club and the Aqua Mouse. Then again avoiding a flight, driving down a couple hours to San Diego, parking my car and boarding a cruise sounds pretty great. If we were to fly to Florida I can’t see myself flying out there again without doing WDW for the first time. Especially if I’m flying in to Orlando. So it would probably have to be 4-5 days at WDW followed by a 3-4 night cruise on the Wish.

We have done all 5 ships and have done the Wish twice (though Dream/Fantasy is probably our favorite for the adult areas)… I think your 8yo is the boy? If so, I think the Wish class will be a ton of fun for him, especially if he loves Marvel. Our 9yo (girl) loves their kids clubs and my 7yo loves hero zone and Marvel dining room. The Aqua Mouse is like Aqua Duck with screens.

I personally like Magic standard dining better than Wish, but it’s because I adore the Rapunzel dining room, that your younger one might appreciate, not sure how your other kid feels about Tangled. If you like fine dining, Enchante on Wish is 1000x better than Palo on Magic/Wonder. You might also like the pool food/buffet on Wish better— they have BBQ (which is consistently good if not great) and what my kids call “Chipotle at sea”.

We are west coasters…I’ve done Wonder out of San Diego for convenience and honestly feel that it isn’t as good of a value, even when not paying for flights, because the best part of DCL (to me) is family time at Castaway Cay. Ensenada is not an acceptable alternative, lol.

 

[mickEblu]

We have done all 5 ships and have done the Wish twice (though Dream/Fantasy is probably our favorite for the adult areas)… I think your 8yo is the boy? If so, I think the Wish class will be a ton of fun for him, especially if he loves Marvel. Our 9yo (girl) loves their kids clubs and my 7yo loves hero zone and Marvel dining room. The Aqua Mouse is like Aqua Duck with screens.

I personally like Magic standard dining better than Wish, but it’s because I adore the Rapunzel dining room, that your younger one might appreciate, not sure how your other kid feels about Tangled. If you like fine dining, Enchante on Wish is 1000x better than Palo on Magic/Wonder. You might also like the pool food/buffet on Wish better— they have BBQ (which is consistently good if not great) and what my kids call “Chipotle at sea”.

We are west coasters…I’ve done Wonder out of San Diego for convenience and honestly feel that it isn’t as good of a value, even when not paying for flights, because the best part of DCL (to me) is family time at Castaway Cay. Ensenada is not an acceptable alternative, lol.

See you get it, haha. The conclusion I came to is based on all factors ( mostly the kids/ food) is that it's Wish/ Treasure or bust being that our first cruise was on the Dream. The food at 1923 looks pretty good and the buffet like you said looks much better on the Wish. My daughter would love the Frozen themed dinner show. I think having one of the main dining rooms be Marvel themed is a weird choice though. It should have been Animators Palette or an equivalent. The Wish also has an equivalent to the Aquaduck while the Magic/ Wonder do not. Castaway Cay was awesome and if I ever do another Disney cruise I'll probably seek out one that stops at Disneys islands twice. You're getting everything you need out of a port of call with out the hassle. With all of the said, I don't see myself flying to Orlando just to cruise. It would have to be attached to a WDW trip and now you're talking $$$$.

Lol exactly. Ive been to Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo and Cancun a bunch of times. I wouldn't t even get off the ship at Ensenada. I agree the value isn't there on the Disney Mexico cruises. If it was one of the newer ships I'd consider it. But im not paying top dollar for an older ship that's less fun for the kids that's going to places I've been to numerous times.

This conversation makes me realize that Aulani probably makes more sense than anything right now haha.

 

[C33Mom]

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See you get it, haha. The conclusion I came to is based on all factors ( mostly the kids/ food) is that it's Wish/ Treasure or bust being that our first cruise was on the Dream. The food at 1923 looks pretty good and the buffet like you said looks much better on the Wish. My daughter would love the Frozen themed dinner show. I think having one of the main dining rooms be Marvel themed is a weird choice though. It should have been Animators Palette or an equivalent. The Wish also has an equivalent to the Aquaduck while the Magic/ Wonder do not. Castaway Cay was awesome and if I ever do another Disney cruise I'll probably seek out one that stops at Disneys islands twice. You're getting everything you need out of a port of call with out the hassle. With all of the said, I don't see myself flying to Orlando just to cruise. It would have to be attached to a WDW trip and now you're talking $$$$.

Lol exactly. Ive been to Mazatlan, Puerto Vallarta, Cabo and Cancun a bunch of times. I wouldn't t even get off the ship at Ensenada. I agree the value isn't there on the Disney Mexico cruises. If it was one of the newer ships I'd consider it. But im not paying top dollar for an older ship that's less fun for the kids that's going to places I've been to numerous times.

This conversation makes me realize that Aulani probably makes more sense than anything right now haha.

I agree with basically everything you’ve said except I continue to like all Castaway Cay cruises a little better than Aulani (though we do like Aulani and try to make it there every 18-24 months or so)— Aulani has limited childcare options that are mostly midday, and even more limited adult only areas…DCL has nearly unlimited childcare from like 8AM to midnight, and then adult only pool, cafe, restaurant areas… to be clear, we don’t actually pawn our kids off on Disney all vacation, but they do love spending 3-4 hours there in the evening while we have a nice dinner or enjoy a drink and adult only trivia.

I think the Worlds of Marvel show is fun, if a bit cheesy (I’ve liked Paul Rudd since Clueless)—but it is honestly not great for a family dinner because there are giant screens playing marvel clips 24/7 and if a single member of your family is easily distracted it’s hard to carry a conversation.

We’ve actually never done 1923, we always end up skipping it for Enchanté—but it appears to be the best food option, so maybe we should skip WoM next time.

 

[mickEblu]

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I agree with basically everything you’ve said except I continue to like all Castaway Cay cruises a little better than Aulani (though we do like Aulani and try to make it there every 18-24 months or so)— Aulani has limited childcare options that are mostly midday, and even more limited adult only areas…DCL has nearly unlimited childcare from like 8AM to midnight, and then adult only pool, cafe, restaurant areas… to be clear, we don’t actually pawn our kids off on Disney all vacation, but they do love spending 3-4 hours there in the evening while we have a nice dinner or enjoy a drink and adult only trivia.

I think the Worlds of Marvel show is fun, if a bit cheesy (I’ve liked Paul Rudd since Clueless)—but it is honestly not great for a family dinner because there are giant screens playing marvel clips 24/7 and if a single member of your family is easily distracted it’s hard to carry a conversation.

We’ve actually never done 1923, we always end up skipping it for Enchanté—but it appears to be the best food option, so maybe we should skip WoM next time.

lol no judgment here. A little adult time is nice.

We love Hawaii though and we've never done Aulani so that should probably happen before another cruise for us. We also haven't done Oahu together (I went I was 12). We have done Maui and Kauai. From what I've heard from friends though 3 days at Aulani is enough? Then maybe do 4 days in Honolulu. It sounds like you're really at Disneys mercy when you're at Aulani. Not a lot of food options nearby other than the 4 Seasons? I want my local hole in the wall spots where I can go grab a "plate lunch."

Yeah if we ever do the Wish on a 4 day cruise I'm definitely requesting only 1 night at Worlds Of Marvel.

Just to be clear the Dream was a great ship and I have nothing against it. It's just that if I were to do another Disney Cruise I'd want to see a different ship. I feel like that may have been lost in translation.

 

[Tiggerish]

Just to be clear the Dream was a great ship and I have nothing against it. It's just that if I were to do another Disney Cruise I'd want to see a different ship. I feel like that may have been lost in translation.

To your last sentence, I didn't lose it,that was clear to me, and its totally reasonable.

My first two DCL cruises were on the Dream, because it did captivate me (clearly didn't have the same effect on you,which is fine).

Then I sailed on the Magic, and the smaller ship.was even more attractive to us. I've sailed on all.four original ships, plus the Wish.

The Fantasy is laid out the same.as the Dream but has different theming (and, IMO, a way better adult area). The Wonder (as you know) has the same relationship to the Magic, yet I much prefer the Magic.

I didn't love the Wish, and as a result have no interest in the Treasure. You may find that you like the layout of the Triton class ships (Wish, Treasure)

Yeah if we ever do the Wish on a 4 day cruise I'm definitely requesting only 1 night at Worlds Of Marvel.

The show is definitely distracting. The food is good. The tables are FARTOOCLOSETOGETHER for the comfort of guests or waitstaff. At least in the Marvel.restaurant, the screens on both sides allow all.diners to see.the entire show.

In the Frozen restaurant, you are again squashed together, but the tables are.arranged so that half of the diners have their backs to the stage. Definitely less.than ideal.to enjoy the show.

Similar.experience in 1923, the ambience is wonderful, but we were a group of 20.adults, and they seated us at a long table along the back wall, half of us on a banquette, the other half facing on chairs, with no space between the tables. One of the group who was seated on the banquette and needed.to use the restroom halfway through dinner, rather than have several people.squeeze out of their seats and through the small.space between our table and the next, actually crawled.under the table to get out.

Once was.enough for me, if you choose to.sail on the Wish, I hope you have a better experience.

 

[cjkeating]

The Wish does not hold more people than the Dream

I've done all five DCL ships and the Wish felt by far the most crowded. Dining room tables almost touching the table next to you, no seats in the buffet, people getting turned away from the theatre, venues too small for activities.

 

[C33Mom]

The Fantasy is laid out the same.as the Dream but has different theming (and, IMO, a way better adult area). The Wonder (as you know) has the same relationship to the Magic, yet I much prefer the Magic.

I can’t say exactly why but we prefer Fantasy to Dream— I suspect this is because our first Dream cruise was very short. We keep ending up on 3 day sailings because our vacation days are precious but in my opinion (especially as a new or Silver CC member) embarkation and disembarkation days are a terrible value (and disembarkation is downright miserable on average)— so 5+ night sailings are actually a MUCH better ratio of fun to hassle.

I didn't love the Wish, and as a result have no interest in the Treasure. You may find that you like the layout of the Triton class ships (Wish, Treasure)

We like the Wish a lot but a few of our favorite spaces (Arendelle and Hyperspace Lounge) are getting replaced on Treasure. I get that like 99% of people think these are upgrades but it’s not for moi. Our kids want to sail all the ships so we’ll probably do it eventually but 7 days seems like way too much. I think we’ll do the Adventure (out of Singapore) first.

The show is definitely distracting. The food is good. The tables are FARTOOCLOSETOGETHER for the comfort of guests or waitstaff. At least in the Marvel.restaurant, the screens on both sides allow all.diners to see.the entire show.

So true. Somehow we always (2 of 2 sailings) get crammed into a corner and I’m just now realizing I should be grateful that we aren’t backed up against another table.

In the Frozen restaurant, you are again squashed together, but the tables are.arranged so that half of the diners have their backs to the stage. Definitely less.than ideal.to enjoy the show.

We have had the banquettes that are perpendicular to the stage, which worked well but required sharing a large table with strangers, which is not our jam. We were a party of 5 on our Wish sailings so that may have impacted it.

Similar.experience in 1923, the ambience is wonderful, but we were a group of 20.adults, and they seated us at a long table along the back wall, half of us on a banquette, the other half facing on chairs, with no space between the tables. One of the group who was seated on the banquette and needed.to use the restroom halfway through dinner, rather than have several people.squeeze out of their seats and through the small.space between our table and the next, actually crawled.under the table to get out.

Totally unacceptable and honestly horrifying.