You know what?
Come live in my backyard. Even better, come drive north on 535 at 7:30 AM on a weekday.
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News Disney World Earmarks 80 Acres for Affordable Housing
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You know what?
Come live in my backyard. Even better, come drive north on 535 at 7:30 AM on a weekday.
And that high school is at capacity while development along Seidel continues to grow. They are building another apartment complex at the intersection of Seidel and Avalon.
castlecake2.0
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I do live in the area.
Then you should understand what this 1400 unit complex will do to an area that already is a traffic nightmare.
lazyboy97o
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It isn’t the complex that is doing this. It is the intentional design of the area’s planning.
This make s no sense.
You don't live there. They did speak up.
again nonsense. You can not pile on a bad system and call it good.
The area is already over run. why add to that?
Where will people live that will not cause over run?
Because, almost everywhere, the infrastructure was built to match the number of houses that were built, with no extra give.
This means any new development exceeds the infrastructure and new infrastructure needs to be built.
This prevents areas from becoming more densely populated... which is the plan of suburban homesteaders and the car industry.
The alternative is continuing suburban sprawl until the entire land is nothing but one-bedroom homes; and hundreds of thousands of people need to drive over an hour to and fro every day... in just one county. Repeat everywhere.
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A little place on the other side of the county called Bithlo (or Christmas). They'll protest worse than Horizon West has, but you'll need significantly less infrastructure (just maybe a new school, but it wouldn't have to be terribly big). That's one of the few places you could put it where infrastructure is much less of a concern because barely anyone lives there!
Which means there's no public transportation option for those who would be living in such a development.
Welcome to Florida. Urban sprawl is the state's middle name.
We did. We met with our County Commissioner. We attended meetings of the planning board. We provided documentation showing the effect on roads and other infrastructure. We provided occupancy data for the apartment complexes and single family homes in the area. We did everything citizens should do. Didn't matter.
That land will bring in more tax revenue to the County if it's developed. And THAT is what drives many decisions.
I hate to say it but there's no transportation worth a darn where this development is going to be built anyway! The county saying a bus is enough for everything outside of downtown basically, is incredibly irresponsible but what can you really do when Orlando has the steadiest source of income and the most power, but doesn't want anything to benefit the bits they don't own?
heapster411
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First they build the development, then they build the transportation. They have to create a problem to fix it, Right? I don't see any talk of Section 8, yet. I New Orleans, that how our history went. First development, then available shopping, then transportation, and finally low income and Section 8.
The nearby area is built up enough that said transportation (and other things) should already exist.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The design of the area makes transit inconvenient and difficult to provide. We’ve known dead ends are bad for density, transit and just general urban efficiency for a very long time.
Stripes
Premium Member
FYI, that map is outdated. Before Disney donated the land, RCID de-annexed the property from the district.
Disney's Central Florida Attainable Housing Community Gets Major Permit Approval
Disney's Central Florida Attainable Housing Community Gets Major Permit Approval
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This development, while maybe needed for "Affordable" housing is going in the wrong location. It has not transportation options other than cars. The road is too small for this number of units and there are no plans to build expansions. The area needs another connection into Disney besides Western Way. There is practically no cell service and the schools are crowded. It should have been built adjacent to Flamingo not here. There is also way too much housing that is still unoccupied right there across the street and going up at Seidel. These properties are empty because the costs are too high. They should stop development until the unoccupied units meet a certain amount of occupancy.
lazyboy97o
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The NIMBYism could at least try for some originality.
DisneyFanatic12
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There definitely is a lot of that playing into feelings on this development. However, there are legitimate concerns about the lack of infrastructure available in the area, without plans for remediation.
Water Spring Elementary, a nearby elementary school finished the last academic year significantly overcapacity, operating at 148% capacity. Nearby Horizon High School, which this new development will likely be zoned for, is also operating over capacity.
Besides the academic infrastructure, the road infrastructure in the area is inadequate, without plans to add more infrastructure. Public transportation in the area is non-existent as well, forcing these residents to rely on a personal vehicle for transportation. While it may be common for new developments to have inadequate transportation infrastructure upon being built, the lack of plans for future expansions is concerning.
On the other hand…
Having Flamingo Crossings nearby is nice, and assuming a sidewalk is eventually built connecting the two, there will be pedestrian access to the small Target and other stores located there. Cell service is rough, but it keeps getting better and should theoretically meet demand eventually. Road infrastructure will almost certainly be improved upon eventually, but it is concerning the lack of planning that has been done thus far.
To me, if there were clear plans for alleviating the academic and transportation infrastructure in the area, this would be a much more palatable addition to the area. It’s hard to stomach something like this when you have legitimate concerns over the infrastructure in the area of the development in addition to the usual NIMBY sentiment.