New Enhancements, Dining Options Coming to Disney’s BoardWalk

Bocabear

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I think they will be successful...there are enough visitors coming through that will want to try the next new thing.....Once. And if that is enough business for them, then they will be fine. They have years before they run out of new guests... I think the bakery will draw a lot of people for a $15 cookie sprinkled with glitter.... once.
but given the crowd sizes drawn to WDW, they will be fine for a long while...
 

TrojanUSC

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I think they will be successful...there are enough visitors coming through that will want to try the next new thing.....Once. And if that is enough business for them, then they will be fine. They have years before they run out of new guests... I think the bakery will draw a lot of people for a $15 cookie sprinkled with glitter.... once.
but given the crowd sizes drawn to WDW, they will be fine for a long while...

The rent has to be astronomical and they still seem to be 50% full most of the time. Hopefully showing up on MDE will help.
 

MrPromey

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If that's you in your profile picture, we've seen you a bunch of times. :D
@mastromjm

Oh wow! You are SO good at what you do.

So I gotta know, do you guys just know all these songs or are you sometimes looking them up and listening to them in the back while waiting for your shift up front and then playing by ear?

I'm sure a lot of people ask for the same stuff over and over and I've been enough times to hear what seem like clever requests come around again and again but how you pull it off sometimes really does feel like magic.
 
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Bocabear

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The rent has to be astronomical and they still seem to be 50% full most of the time. Hopefully showing up on MDE will help.
They have also just spent a pretty penny on their off-site baking factory, so they need to be successful....or open other outlets that are not at WDW... I wonder if Disney wrangled the contract in such a way they could not have an additional location at one of the Universal parks or resorts...
 

MrPromey

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Someone was complaining about their cake tasting freezer-burnt and someone who worked there said that was how they were made/delivered.
Isn't this facility also making goods that they are shipping out to people? If so, it would make sense that they probably have a standard process for all of it and the restaurant is basically just getting their product by truck from the same batches being shipped out.
 

lewisc

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Isn't this facility also making goods that they are shipping out to people? If so, it would make sense that they probably have a standard process for all of it and the restaurant is basically just getting their product by truck from the same batches being shipped out.
No. Interviews with Gwendolyn, linked earlier in this thread?, offsite bakery is for Disney and not mail order.

Some of us speculate the facility looks much bigger then needed to support CBS. Could Disney outsource specially baking (wedding cakes). It could either be promoted, wedding cake by Gwendolyn, or.done as private label.
 

larryz

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So Mom, Dad, and two kids will put out about $320 for tea. Plus tax and tip.

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MrPromey

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No. Interviews with Gwendolyn, linked earlier in this thread?, offsite bakery is for Disney and not mail order.

Some of us speculate the facility looks much bigger then needed to support CBS. Could Disney outsource specially baking (wedding cakes). It could either be promoted, wedding cake by Gwendolyn, or.done as private label.
I'd agree that seems like overkill if it was intended to serve just that location.
 

MrPromey

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Here's the reality, they're a third party restaurant leasing their space, the initial pricing got a lot of negative PR at launch, which has stuck with them, and the crowds aren't materializing. I don't even think they are on the Disney ADR system yet or even plan to be soon.

As much as I love cake, this is not a destination like Gideons where people will wait on line for a slice, and people are certainly not going to leave Epcot to walk over here for a meal (The rest of the empty expensive restaurants in the Boardwalk Area Resorts prove that). Once the initial buzz dies down, this place is toast...cake toast?

For what it's worth, when it comes to Gideons, their original counter at East End in a decidedly non-tourist area punches way above its weight, too. It's easily the busiest little place in there with markings for "line starts here" going out a side door of the building and around the corner to keep people in line from clogging up the space in front of the other counters and shops.

In the case of that location, they have a good deal of theme packed into a tiny little space but the decor and theme is clearly not what's drawing people, there - it's absolutely the product.

That they've knocked it out of the park with theme at Disney Springs adds to the demand but that's not what's creating it.

My point is, it's awesome they offer a bit of an experience but they wouldn't need that to continue selling cookies like nobody on earth needed to worry about calories or cholesterol anymore because the world was ending - I'm confident that would still be the case even without the gargoyle and books.

From what I'm seeing and hearing, it appears CBH is far more dependent on the experience they're trying to offer for their selling point than they are the actual food being offered.
 
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mastromjm

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@mastromjm

Oh wow! You are SO good at what you do.

So I gotta know, do you guys just know all these songs or are you sometimes looking them up and listening to them in the back while waiting for your shift up front and then playing by ear?

I'm sure a lot of people ask for the same stuff over and over and I've been enough times to hear what seem like clever requests come around again and again but how you pull it off sometimes really does feel like magic.
Thankfully between all four of us in the night, SOMEBODY’s gotta know the song. And if not…well we gotta spend our break sometime, right?? Thank you very much for the kind words, I love it here!!
 

TrojanUSC

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From what I'm seeing and hearing, it appears CBH is far more dependent on the experience they're trying to offer for their selling point than they are the actual food being offered.

My friend and I compared it to eating lunch at the Ritz in Paris or Plaza in New York. Both grand experiences to be sure, but is the experience alone worth $30 for a plain ham & cheese sandwich, which will also certainly not be the best ham & cheese experience of your life? That said, people do it either for the convenience of eating in their own hotel or for the luxury experience of doing so.

This isn't Indiana where CBS stands out as a unique luxury experience for families wanting to celebrate. WDW is the luxury experience for most people - sure there are higher end food options, but, characters aside, it's the food choices, unique themed environments and variety of cuisines that usually sell people, not the perceived level of generic fancy.
 
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Chef idea Mickey`=

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From what I'm seeing and hearing, it appears CBH is far more dependent on the experience they're trying to offer for their selling point than they are the actual food being offered.
An American's palette isn't the same as a European's Palette. Disney World is visited by people from all around the world. US visitors will make way to go so to so they have tried the Guideon's Hype. For International visitors it be something else. The Glutton Free visitors will find them at either Summer House or Cake Bake because the other doesn't do Glutten Free. A person who likes European goods isn't into American sweets vice versa it depends who you are. Some are born and live to need flavor, others want just quality exceptional in what they eat.
 

Ayla

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An American's palette isn't the same as a European's Palette. Disney World is visited by people from all around the world. US visitors will make way to go so to so they have tried the Guideon's Hype. For International visitors it be something else. The Glutton Free visitors will find them at either Summer House or Cake Bake because the other doesn't do Glutten Free. A person who likes European goods isn't into American sweets vice versa it depends who you are. Some are born and live to need flavor, others want just quality exceptional in what they eat.
Please tell me English is your second language.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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If this were situated at Disney Springs, I don't think it would get as much attention as it's getting now, but it certainly would have much better foot traffic.

Ye Olde Cake Bake Shoppe is a destination experience, that was sadly put in a location that is not enough of a destination that they need it to be.
The location wouldn't matter when the prices for tea and cakes and food is over the haystack!

The Boardwalk and Crescent Lake resort area not enough of a destination? It's no different from Seven Seas Lagoon. I'm sure there a many who visit Epcot and never dared to visit this side of WDW just because oh our hotel is not there. The location is no different than The Grand Floridian It's next to a park, sits next to a Deluxe resort, several Deluxe resorts and next door to France. You have an open wedding/event space right next to it. If this thing was in Disney Spring's people would say it doesn't fit there, can't even imagine where the location would be, next door to Summer House..
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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The location wouldn't matter when the prices for tea and cakes and food is over the haystack!

The Boardwalk and Crescent Lake resort area not enough of a destination? It's no different from Seven Seas Lagoon. I'm sure there a many who visit Epcot and never dared to visit this side of WDW just because oh our hotel is not there. The location is no different than The Grand Floridian It's next to a park, sits next to a Deluxe resort, several Deluxe resorts and next door to France. You have an open wedding/event space right next to it. If this thing was in Disney Spring's people would say it doesn't fit there, can't even imagine where the location would be, next door to Summer House..
In addition to everything you have said, I am not sure how much for a foot traffic type of place OCBS really is. It seems like most of the selling point to it is the decore, the experience. Are there going to be alot of people wandering around Disney springs in 90 degree weather, in shorts and flip flops and just decide, you know what would be good right now... an elegant tea party. While I am sure they will sell cake to anyone, and will take walk ups for such things, I picture there true market group as pre-planned parties and groups, such that foot traffic really isn't all that important.
 

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