Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[Chi84]

Stop fighting. You're upsetting the kids.

 

[Dranth]

Well, since they control the amount of FP or LL or whatever silly name they come up with, that are available. They could simply have reduced the number of passes given out.

How were they going to do that? Change the number of FP+ selections from three to two? Not allow any additional after you used your three? Not allow any offsite? No matter what they did it would cause a ton of anger and switching to a paid system was inevitable. It creates a revenue source, solves the overuse problem, and gives them finer control.

Stinks for us, it is great for them.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Stop fighting. You're upsetting the kids.

Just you wait til I bring out the calculus and rate problems!!

 

[Purduevian]

Just you wait til I bring out the calculus and rate problems!!

It's not real math until there are only letters and greek symbols until the final step!

 

[Ayla]

Just you wait til I bring out the calculus and rate problems!!

 

[Laketravis]

Q.E.D.

 

[CaptJackSparrow]

How were they going to do that? Change the number of FP+ selections from three to two? Not allow any additional after you used your three? Not allow any offsite? No matter what they did it would cause a ton of anger and switching to a paid system was inevitable. It creates a revenue source, solves the overuse problem, and gives them finer control.

Stinks for us, it is great for them.

Just reduce the number of passes available per ride, per day. They already do this all the time.

 

[Purduevian]

Just reduce the number of passes available per ride, per day. They already do this all the time.

Why would they make an upcharge worse to help people that didn't purchase the upcharge?

 

[CaptJackSparrow]

Why would they make an upcharge worse to help people that didn't purchase the upcharge?

Huh? It would be better….

 

[Purduevian]

Huh? It would be better….

How would reducing the number of passes help the people buying LLMP? Wouldn't that just make rides sell out faster, causing people to get less lightning lanes per day, thus devaluing the upcharge? Disney for sure wants people to feel like LLMP is worth it so they buy it next time/tell their friends they should buy it.

 

[Jrb1979]

How would reducing the number of passes help the people buying LLMP? Wouldn't that just make rides sell out faster, causing people to get less lightning lanes per day, thus devaluing the upcharge? Disney for sure wants people to feel like LLMP is worth it so they buy it next time/tell their friends they should buy it.

I personally think they need to get rid of LLMP and just have the Premier Pass. Keep that limited.

 

[nickys]

They HAD to reduce the number of people using the system and the only way to do that was charge for it or offer no line skip at all.

Hang on, is this why you think they introduced G+ rather than free FP+? That there were too many people using it that they decided it didn’t work.

I think they simply decided this was a way to get some new revenue. Paid versions were already in place at DLP and at least one of Tokyo and Shanghai (possibly both) before WDW. When it was first rumoured the discussion included variations of all existing options.

So they saw good sales in the other parks and wanted the revenue.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Hang on, is this why you think they introduced G+ rather than free FP+? That there were too many people using it that they decided it didn’t work.

I think they simply decided this was a way to get some new revenue. Paid versions were already in place at DLP and at least one of Tokyo and Shanghai (possibly both) before WDW. When it was first rumoured the discussion included variations of all existing options.

So they saw good sales in the other parks and wanted the revenue.

For sure. They've basically looked at all aspects of their parks and resorts and said, "Why aren't we profiting from _____?" Then they made it so they are.

 

[Purduevian]

I personally think they need to get rid of LLMP and just have the Premier Pass. Keep that limited.

I sure hope not... I don't have the money for LLPP and I can typically do everything I want to do in a day with LLMP.

And before someone comes in to tell me that the standby lines would be so short if they got rid of all the skip the lines I would still be able to do everything I wanted with a minimal wait... My "worst" trip to Disney was in October 2021 right before G+ launched and there was no skip the line (still had a great time, just not as good of a time).

If the options were LLPP or standby online, I would visit a lot less.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I sure hope not... I don't have the money for LLPP and I can typically do everything I want to do in a day with LLMP.

And before someone comes in to tell me that the standby lines would be so short if they got rid of all the skip the lines I would still be able to do everything I wanted with a minimal wait... My "worst" trip to Disney was in October 2021 right before G+ launched and there was no skip the line (still had a great time, just not as good of a time).

If the options were LLPP or standby online, I would visit a lot less.

I have also see posts here saying families were able to get on attractions without having to purchase LLMP so there are ways.

 

[Purduevian]

I have also see posts here saying families were able to get on attractions without having to purchase LLMP so there are ways.

I mean obviously Standby and Rope drop are options. However, the quantity/frequency that I am able to get on attractions will get worse if they move to a LLPP/Standby only system.