Why not build 30 versions of it then, since they have all that space?
I mean, they obviously have more space left, but I'm personally glad they're saving room for a future SNW expansion rather than duplicating an existing ride structure.
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025
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Why not build 30 versions of it then, since they have all that space?
I mean, they obviously have more space left, but I'm personally glad they're saving room for a future SNW expansion rather than duplicating an existing ride structure.
ToTBellHop
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And I don’t think Stardust will be better than Velocicoaster. It’s rather surprising to have 5 new coaster tracks in this park but end up with IoA still having better coasters.
For me, a lot rides on the new Potter ride and Monsters Unchained.
Says who?
Epic Universe was a blank slate that was always planned to have the same Nintendo land as Japan. Yes, it had space to work with, but what you two are asking for is a complete overhaul of both the ride's and land's designs, which they obviously didn't consider worthwhile, not to mention we would be waiting even longer for it to open here if they had to redesign it.
Figments Friend
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lazyboy97o
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What a load of crock. So Universal can’t do things in a timely manner? They did for the minimal cost savings, that’s it.
SplashJacket
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Different goals. Stardust will easily be their best marginally themed coaster, and will have a super high capacity. Fits a need
It is not "a load of crock." Believe it or not, you can't redesign an entire ride & land overnight. The DK area would have been pushed back considerably had they taken this path, not to mention the potential impact on other, adjacent areas of the park. As the person who is always defending Disney's inability to construct a clone in a timely manner, because it supposedly required extra design work despite being a clone, I would expect you of all people to understand this.
TalkToEthan
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you just pulled that up out of thin air.
So when it comes to creating something monumental to the point of likely earthshaking within the theme park industry like the Ministry of Magic and Monsters—they open on time….
……but when it comes to creating a deluxe version of Donkey Kong from scratch somehow that project automatically messes with opening dates.
Ya, I don’t buy it
TalkToEthan
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Where are you getting this “overnight” stuff from????? Epic and its attractions have been in the works for 5+ years.
You can't buy anything with Monopoly money. Why are the Ministry of Magic and Monsters assumed to be high-quality attractions? Because they were long planned to be exactly what they're rumored to be. They didn't say "screw it" and completely change the plans, utilizing the most rudimentary of Roller Coaster Tycoon logic, only after realizing their length or capacity could potentially be an issue, which is exactly what you're asking of them here. I'll say this one more time, since I guess you didn't catch it before: This land was always designed to be the same in both Orlando & Japan. Even before the Nintendo project was moved to Epic Universe from Universal Studios, the plan was always to mirror the experience in both locations, with only Hollywood getting a Cliff's Notes version due to its lack of real estate. This should come as a shock to absolutely no one given Universal's more recent propensity for cloning entire lands. So no, a "deluxe version" of Donkey Kong was never in the cards, and Epic Universe having more space than Japan never even entered into the equation. They built what they wanted to build.
I'm getting it from you, of course. Do you know how many of the past five years (it's been much longer than that, btw) were spent fundamentally redesigning Donkey Kong? Zero. We knew exactly what sort of ride it would be that long ago, and Universal themselves even longer. You're asking them to reconsider the attraction's entire design in retrospect, ie at the last minute, because of what you deem to be design flaws (before even riding it, mind you.) So yes, you want them to reconsider their plans overnight, just because EU happens to have more space than Japan, only half a year from the park's opening. Guess what, it wouldn't be ready by then. This should all go without saying, but here we are.
TalkToEthan
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You’re wrong……I never made such a claim nor expected such an order change **after the fact**
Where are you getting that?? Not from me.
My position is it should have been originally designed to surpass Hagrid in scope and scale to raise the bar for coasters in the industry and it should have been designed to accommodate more throughput of course. If it would have taken 2 distinct tracks to do it then so be it—- whatever it takes to get it done.
You’re under some assumption that I think it should have been reworked when it should have been designed for something grand at the onset of Epic—-hence, why I said 5+ (plus)years
It's not an unknown time span. Ground breaking to opening will be 7 years.
And unlike Disney which paused construction for over a year, EU only paused a few months.
TalkToEthan
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lazyboy97o
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I do understand it which is how I understand it is a load of crock. You’re making the same bad assumption as people do about Disney, but worse because we have an entire park’s worth of context. No part of Super Nintendo World was a late, much less eleventh hour, addition to the opening lineup of Epic Universe. There was just as much time to design a site-specific land as there was for the other four lands.
The park will also open with a roller coaster attraction that was conceived, designed and redesigned at the eleventh hour.
Except that’s not the case. While the general idea of a Ministry of Magic attraction has been kicked around it was not at all a long planned singular vision. Just during its time as part of Epic Universe the attraction has been completely scrapped and reconceptualized multiple times. Not just moving scenes around, whole thing started again including the ride system being scrapped.
This is part of the problem. They decided to do both to save a little money. That’s it. If it’s ridiculous for Disney to take so long and just do the same thing then Super Nintendo World is the poster child of that complaint. At the time it was even worse of a decision because Epic Universe had not yet been brought forward on the schedule to 2023 so there would have intentionally been even more time between the opening in Japan and the opening in Orlando.
The park was paused for about a year.
TalkToEthan
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Werewolf???
Just checked... 8 months. July 2020 to March 2021.
Which is more than the "few months" I said. Mea culpa.
Universal released photos from inside the Ministry of Magic ride
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BREAKING: First Look Inside the Harry Potter Ministry of Magic Queue & Attraction Coming to Universal Epic Universe
Universal Orlando has shared a first look inside the highly-anticipated Harry Potter Ministry of Magic ride coming to Epic Universe
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EricsBiscuit
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Absolutely incredible! Very detailedUniversal released photos from inside the Ministry of Magic ride
BREAKING: First Look Inside the Harry Potter Ministry of Magic Queue & Attraction Coming to Universal Epic Universe
Universal Orlando has shared a first look inside the highly-anticipated Harry Potter Ministry of Magic ride coming to Epic Universe