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News VIDEO - New entertainment coming to Pandora - The World of AVATAR
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Rteetz
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It is entertainment in a theme park...
RSoxNo1
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The new bird show is also awful. It's a disjointed mess.
Rivers of Light is underwhelming. There's nothing really "wrong" with it other than it lacks any sort of wow factor for me that I've come to expect from Disney's nighttime shows. For what it's worth, the soundtrack is excellent but the visuals that accompany it are what's underwhelming.
The AMP Suit feels like a forced, out of place element but in the grand scheme of things I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. The other two are legit problems in my mind.
Having said that, the Animal Kingdom is my favorite Disney park in the world, Kilimanjaro Safaris is my favorite attraction and Festival of the Lion King is my favorite show. I love the animal walk throughs, I enjoy Pandora, Everest and DINOSAUR, and think Animal Kingdom's food offerings are better than Epcot's (obviously just less variety).
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Kman101
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@RSoxNo1
UP! is definitely a mess.
I guess I defend ROL, because while there are some issues, I think the music is beautiful and the bones are there. I can agree it can appear to be underwhelming to those looking for a major wow moment. It's never going to have fireworks. Adding Circle of Life won't bring a wow moment. So I mean, it kind of is what it is. It can be tightened and changed a bit, I suppose. But it'd be a shame to lose it to an IP fest. Not that it can't blend the two, but we know they won't do it how they should, instead it'd be an IP fest. I only asked because you kind of hammer it home a lot how 'awful' it is, so I was just wondering ... lol So is it a "bad" show to you or just "underwhelming"? Because I think there's a difference (not that it matters, lol, just saying)
I also defend the AMP suit because I think it helps and makes sense to see the person wearing it. I know people probably cry "cheap" but I think it was a design choice to be more appealing to guests. I want to see the guy and interact with him and talk to him. But that's me. I personally don't think you need to really know anything about Avatar to appreciate the land, but it makes sense to me to have the guy in the AMP suit explaining things to guests. I like it. We need more of these things.
I just think certain things deserve a fair more bit of support instead of constantly nitpicking. We all have things we prefer. Things we would do differently. I really don't see anything wrong with the AMP suit.
The new FOW didn't have to be lazy. It could have been a really nice show implementing Russell and Dug and utilizing the caretaker in a different way. It's a real shame they kind of screwed this up, but since many guests consider it "fine" or "ok" ... many on here have been quick to say it's not that bad, which gives them the continued excuse to do things half-you-know-what because guests will accept it. In this case they should have knocked it out of the park. You can create an interesting new show using the characters. It's truly not that hard. But, is the new show "bad"? I haven't decided. Like you with ROL, I was underhwelmed and disappointed because I expected something different. So because I expected something different, does it make what's there bad? Well ... in this case, I think so ... lol
We actually mostly agree but differ slightly. Glad to know you love the park though.
UP! is definitely a mess.
I guess I defend ROL, because while there are some issues, I think the music is beautiful and the bones are there. I can agree it can appear to be underwhelming to those looking for a major wow moment. It's never going to have fireworks. Adding Circle of Life won't bring a wow moment. So I mean, it kind of is what it is. It can be tightened and changed a bit, I suppose. But it'd be a shame to lose it to an IP fest. Not that it can't blend the two, but we know they won't do it how they should, instead it'd be an IP fest. I only asked because you kind of hammer it home a lot how 'awful' it is, so I was just wondering ... lol So is it a "bad" show to you or just "underwhelming"? Because I think there's a difference (not that it matters, lol, just saying)
I also defend the AMP suit because I think it helps and makes sense to see the person wearing it. I know people probably cry "cheap" but I think it was a design choice to be more appealing to guests. I want to see the guy and interact with him and talk to him. But that's me. I personally don't think you need to really know anything about Avatar to appreciate the land, but it makes sense to me to have the guy in the AMP suit explaining things to guests. I like it. We need more of these things.
I just think certain things deserve a fair more bit of support instead of constantly nitpicking. We all have things we prefer. Things we would do differently. I really don't see anything wrong with the AMP suit.
The new FOW didn't have to be lazy. It could have been a really nice show implementing Russell and Dug and utilizing the caretaker in a different way. It's a real shame they kind of screwed this up, but since many guests consider it "fine" or "ok" ... many on here have been quick to say it's not that bad, which gives them the continued excuse to do things half-you-know-what because guests will accept it. In this case they should have knocked it out of the park. You can create an interesting new show using the characters. It's truly not that hard. But, is the new show "bad"? I haven't decided. Like you with ROL, I was underhwelmed and disappointed because I expected something different. So because I expected something different, does it make what's there bad? Well ... in this case, I think so ... lol
We actually mostly agree but differ slightly. Glad to know you love the park though.
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RSoxNo1
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By no means am I calling for an IP fest. I think I can get away with a rather benign political comment here. Don't take my dislike of Donald Trump as an endorsement of Hillary Clinton.
I'm not calling for an IP driven show to replace Rivers of Light. I'm calling for a better show to replace Rivers of Light. If that happens to be driven by appropriate IP, so be it.
My opposition to this is that the land pays tribute to the nature aspects of Pandora and the Valley of Mo'ara. I don't really see the purpose of the AMP suit other than to put it into the land. Joe tried to classify it as a Research suit, but I look at that as a bit of a stretch. Having said that, the story treatment for the land is so exceptional and much of that could be considered a stretch as well. The suit doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as Rivers of Light or A Great Bird Adventure.
I think if you eliminate Dug from A Great Bird Adventure you have a structure that could work. Dug is a comedic tool that does nothing for the "story" of the show. Russell and Anika (I think that's her name, I keep forgetting) can work to tell the story with Russell providing moments of levity in the same way Guano Joe did.
Having said that, you essentially have three characters replacing Guano Joe and a voiceover at the beginning of Flights of Wonder. It doesn't work.
Kman101
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I think they could probably work in a quick Dug moment, if they so insist on including him. I expected more what you were thinking and another poster had a great idea that aligned with exactly what I thought they *would* do. This was a huge missed opportunity.
And understood about ROL. I know you aren't advocating for IP inclusion, I was just including it because we all know that's what they'd do. Not that a beautiful IP show for Animal Kingdom couldn't be done and be stunning, but I'd hate to lose a non-IP driven show. I'd be fine with a replacement if it stayed IP free. But we know what they'll do ... I hope they don't though. I imagine they have to think IP not in the show is why reaction has been mixed.
Help wanteds went up for actors who stilt-walk in Pandora. So... this seems like this will be a thing that lasts more than for Earth Day Month.
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GlacierGlacier
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Hopefully they'll expand it to more than just one show a day, too. I've been to the park twice when he's there and I haven't managed to catch him yet.