News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)

[aladdin2007]

Location next to the campground is annoying. It really doesn't fit in with that area as designed.

This was their chance to go with Wilderness Junction or Buffalo Junction etc , to tie into the area, but no, pave paradise and put in a city building block . Its disheartening, but that's what is to be expected of them now. No one is left in the guard that followed a fitting design plan.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Oh look at you!!!

I’ve seen some things that give me that glimmer of hope.

 

[John park hopper]

I’ve seen some things that give me that glimmer of hope.

The eternal optimist.

 

[nickys]

The eternal optimist.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Nothing says resort more than wall to wall palid flesh on astroturf punctuated with examples of boiled lobster complexions.

Ummm, isn't that all resorts? And parks?

 

[networkpro]

Ummm, isn't that all resorts? And parks?

I was being a bit too literal. The entire pool deck was full (its not that big) and they had spread out to the astroturf outside the wall. CBB Port Royal pool is a ghost town in comparison. It might be the newest, but all the bodies at it makes it look like it was oversold.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Nothing says "Wilderness" like a modern midrise Marriott hotel!~ More timeless, more Disney!

Don’t forget More Relevant and More Family!

 

[HauntedPirate]

The eternal optimist.

My reputation precedes me.

 

[BrianLo]

I'm very curious on floor count here. Reflections concept art would suggest these more built sections are about to have final floor topping off. Which seems ideal to me if it can stick to keep the building behind that tree-line.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

Based on the crane heights, I would guess there is a ways to go. The latest rumors I saw were 9 stories, I believe.

I really hope I'm wrong, as I agree with you. But, I don't think that's the plan, especially given current management.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I'm very curious on floor count here. Reflections concept art would suggest these more built sections are about to have final floor topping off. Which seems ideal to me if it can stick to keep the building behind that tree-line.

9 floors. 100% sure of that.

 

[WDWhopper]

This is just concrete being poured. There is so much more work needed, this is still at least a year away from opening.

Looks like a little more than that

 

[HauntedPirate]

Looks like a little more than that

I should have said it’s mostly concrete work. Some of it is pre-poured but steel and concrete is it right now. This is still a 2027 opening, don’t fall into the usual trap of “oh look, I see some things are moving quickly, it’s opening sooner!!”.

 

[WDWhopper]

I should have said it’s mostly concrete work. Some of it is pre-poured but steel and concrete is it right now. This is still a 2027 opening, don’t fall into the usual trap of “oh look, I see some things are moving quickly, it’s opening sooner!!”.

My point was, if Disney moved as quickly on the new attractions that they have planned as they are moving on this “capacity increaser,” then they might be in a better position to compete with epic universe over the next couple of years.

 

[tpoly88]

9 floors. 100% sure of that.

Wow that’s tall.

 

[John park hopper]

Disney builds DVC because they recoup the building costs almost immediately when they are finished. CASH cows. New attractions cost a lot and they don't recoup the cost as quickly plus DVC maintenance is payed by the DVC owner. Attractions Disney has to pay maintenance costs----all about the money

 

[HauntedPirate]

My point was, if Disney moved as quickly on the new attractions that they have planned as they are moving on this “capacity increaser,” then they might be in a better position to compete with epic universe over the next couple of years.

It’s still a 2 year build for a resort.

 

[nickys]

Disney builds DVC because they recoup the building costs almost immediately when they are finished. CASH cows. New attractions cost a lot and they don't recoup the cost as quickly plus DVC maintenance is payed by the DVC owner. Attractions Disney has to pay maintenance costs----all about the money

I don’t know how much of a resort’s points they need to sell to recoup their costs. What do you think is the magic percentage?

As a guide, Riviera had sold around 22% of points after 2 years, 76% after 4 years and is now around 86% sold.

My guess is they need to sell more than 50% at a minimum. And the operating costs are determined per point, so Disney is still on the hook for a significant proportion of the operating costs until the resort sells out. They cannot legally manipulate the maintenance fees to lessen their costs.

 

[Jambo Dad]

I still harbor at least a little hope for this resort. It has more room around it as a buffer than Island Tower and they are doing some good things, like a lazy river. Theme could be interesting in competent hands. However I will also say that we had a chance to walk Island Tower a couple months ago and it was very disappointing. It has ambitions to be calm, relaxing and sophisticated, but you really start feeling how how faux it all is. The site is too tight. The finishes are so bland it hurts your eyes. Every opportunity to inject color was avoided. The pretense of reflecting aspects of the Polynesian culture is a pale, cheap trinket imitation of Animal Kingdom and Wilderness. It is not a worthy companion to the original Poly.

 

[WDWhopper]

It’s still a 2 year build for a resort.

Here’s Lakeshore Lodge currently:

And here’s Car’s Land currently:

Pretty obvious where Disney’s priorities are. Another resort is not going to help them compete with Epic Universe this summer, or even next year….or the next.