esskay
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SHH or we'll end up with a Skyliner from AK to AKL and a 50% price hike!
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News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner
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Purduevian
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Ehh I can't afford to stay at deluxes anyway haha.
However... If I was Disney looking to make more money on resorts:
- Build another resort walkable to MK
- Build a at the front of EPCOT
- Invest in non-bus transportation from as many resorts as possible. (connect the all stars, blizzard beach, coronado springs, and AK via a skyliner or something)
They are building a new boat launch, but 5 bus stops seems to indicate MK buses will be included.
If they had made Riviera two end stations instead of a turn station, it would have solved all of these. At the expense of making more people transfer.They need to leave some cabins empty departing from CBR hub so that when they arrive at Riviera you'd have some hop on board available. Try explaining this to guests at the Hub!
On the plus side, that transfer and queue at Riviera would solve needing empty cars from CBR. Since all riders would just get back in line with Riviera guests already in line to Epcot. It would also solve slow downs, since the two end stations could both have the extra loading loop.
For the negative, traveling from AOA/POP to Epcot would take two transfers instead of one. Traveling from CBR hub to Epcot would take one transfer instead of none. The transfer station is more complex than an end station, so I'm not sure building two ends would be hugely different in cost. It would need an extra motor both to build and run though.
lazyboy97o
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I’m not sure the transfer station is really all that more complex except operationally. It’s the same equipment decoupling the gondolas, moving them and controlling the doors. A separate line also means more space for another storage area. It also means you need to move maintenance persons between the two locations.
voodoo321
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How about canals? For instance, you could take the Coronado to Epcot canal and have a separate Epcot to Coronado canal for the way back. Each resort could have it's own direct canals to the individual parks as well as direct canals to the other resorts. It's a simple/logical solution and can be excavated easily in a swamp.
I thought someone mentioned a proposed canal similar to that which was eventually axed because of logistics. I wish I could remember where and when that was, though...
lazyboy97o
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There is not a singular water level across Walt Disney World. The canals are all part of a larger, managed system, not just areas that have been and can be excavated wherever. The boats are also slow.
JoeCamel
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I thought it was a back door into Epcot
Chef idea Mickey`=
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How would a canal cross "World Drive" highway between Coronado and for Epcot? Tunnels? Does the canal connect to the front of Epcot or somewhere between Seas and The Land.
TrainsOfDisney
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I’m pretty sure they are faster than the skyliner.
Straight line from Coronado to The swan / dolphin is about the same distance as swan / dolphin to studios - that’s a pretty quick boat ride.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I still think 4 lines with one transfer station would have been better than 3 lines with 3 transfer/turn stations.
This would have removed most of the ugly poles from the resorts and the lone Caribbean beach station could have been a positive for Riviera guests by giving them their own priority line rather than the current negative of having to wait longer in hopes of an empty car.
This would have removed most of the ugly poles from the resorts and the lone Caribbean beach station could have been a positive for Riviera guests by giving them their own priority line rather than the current negative of having to wait longer in hopes of an empty car.
BrianLo
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IF there’s one sitting there waiting for you that leaves as soon as you board. We’re talking a few percentage points on being that lucky.
So much of WDW transit is pulsed and a lot of it with sub optimal cost cut intervals. What I like about the Skyliner is it’s often running empty, which Disney probably doesn’t like…
JoeCamel
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Empty or full it costs the same to run so a fixed cost is budgeted for
Remember, this is the company that once stretched very similar visually discordant attractions across their theme parks.
Chef idea Mickey`=
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I wish you had an illustration, the "two end" station concept is confusing me
Just imagine needing to get out of your gondola at Riviera, whether arriving from Epcot or arriving from the hub station.I wish you had an illustration, the "two end" station concept is confusing me
Disney probably doesn't like busses running empty, but they do.
UNCgolf
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Yeah, despite me not being a big fan of the Skyliner for a variety of reasons, the fact that it's continually moving is a benefit in this regard. Buses and boats can't just sit and wait until they're full (although they do sometimes wait a few minutes before leaving if they're mostly empty) because it would make guests furious -- what if you have a dinner reservation, get on the bus with plenty of time, and then the bus doesn't leave for 30 minutes because there aren't enough guests and you miss the reservation? -- so they're not remotely optimized. An empty Skyliner cabin has very little effect on anything.
Buses/boats running mostly empty is definitely a bigger hit to optimization/efficiency (and more importantly, costs) than empty Skyliner cabins.
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