MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath

[ChrisFL]

I still don't think Wall-E fits anywhere in EPCOT, it's dystopian, not utopian

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

I still don't think Wall-E fits anywhere in EPCOT, it's dystopian, not utopian

It ends very utopian and carries a very strong message of sustainable development and discusses mankinds relationship with tech. All hallmarks of EPCOT.

Wall-E would have been a much better fit at EPCOT than Guardians of the Galaxy, even if they'd built a good Guardians ride (not arguing that Cosmic Rewind isn't a good ride in general, even though I'm personally not a big fan -- just that I don't think it uses the Guardians IP well).

I am not at all an insider and what I’m about to say is based on nothing but pure vibes: I have feeling in the next 10-15 years (if that) there will be a big empty building already carrying a space motif that WALL-E could move right into.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

I still don't think Wall-E fits anywhere in EPCOT, it's dystopian, not utopian

Entirely depends on the framing. The Axiom is dystopian, yes, but one of the core messages of the movie is that there is hope for a better tomorrow as long as we work for it. That's about as EPCOT as you can get.

 

[James Alucobond]

I still don't think Wall-E fits anywhere in EPCOT, it's dystopian, not utopian

Kind of hinges on whether you center it on the content of the main film or the content of the credits.

 

[dmc493]

I could definitely see a Wall-E experience that doesn't utilize the spaceship narrative whatsoever, just plays off of the antics he gets up to on Earth, while also delivering the sustainability theme.... one can dream

 

[Comped]

I am dreading the upcoming hard goods refresh for AKL. All the furniture (tables, chairs, headboards) was custom created, with all the carving marks and notches to give it richness.
I am expecting all that to be gone.

When is that happening? Cast Connections will be a madhouse when that gets there... (Assuming much or all of that sort of stuff goes.)

 

[bpiper]

Kidani starts in October, followed by Jambo when Kidani is finished.

 

[Agent H]

Kind of hinges on whether you center it on the content of the main film or the content of the credits.

No offense but this kinda annoys me for some reason Are the credits part of the story? Yes? then they are important context you cannot ignore I would rather see wall-e go in Tomorrowland than Epcot but I had to call this out

 

[James Alucobond]

No offense but this kinda annoys me for some reason Are the credits part of the story? Yes? then they are important context you cannot ignore I would rather see wall-e go in Tomorrowland than Epcot but I had to call this out

Not really sure why you're annoyed? I didn't say that one was a more valid framing than the other. I was responding to someone who called it exclusively dystopian with an example of how it wasn't exclusively so.

 

[Agent H]

Not really sure why you're annoyed? I didn't say that one was a more valid framing than the other. I was responding to someone who called it exclusively dystopian with an example of how it wasn't exclusively so.

Sorry I meant no harm si si ni sawa what I said was inexcusable I do not know what came over me I normally do not allow such passion into my posts I am sorry.

 

[WorldExplorer]

I still don't think Wall-E fits anywhere in EPCOT, it's dystopian, not utopian

It's shiny so it fits.

^^ The actual logic that would let it in.

 

[Agent H]

It's shiny so it fits.

^^ The actual logic that would let it in.

How does it not fit? It is literally a film about the future I can’t think of a ip that fits Epcot or Tomorrowland more.

 

[WorldExplorer]

How does it not fit? It is literally a film about the future I can’t think of a ip that fits Epcot or Tomorrowland more.

"The future" in a generic sci-fi sense was never meant to be the theme of Epcot. It was supposed to be about reality. Human possibility.

Think the ending scene of Carousel of Progress vs. a Star Trek episode. Very different things.

I don't expect anything that actually fits in Epcot to ever go in there again, though. All the parks have fully moved into the "well, TECHNICALLY it KINDA fits if you forget what we were originally going for..." stage.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I don't expect anything that actually fits in Epcot to ever go in there again, though.

You mean fit in Future World? It's gone, for weal or woe.

EPCOT is now just "World Fair Festivals."

As far as Tomorrowland goes, that was supposed to be Retro Futurism... the 60s ideal of the future. Star Trek fits in that.

What would be even better is if the next Incredibles movie was in space v. aliens... and that gets used.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

"The future" in a generic sci-fi sense was never meant to be the theme of Epcot. It was supposed to be about reality. Human possibility.

Think the ending scene of Carousel of Progress vs. a Star Trek episode. Very different things.

I don't expect anything that actually fits in Epcot to ever go in there again, though. All the parks have fully moved into the "well, TECHNICALLY it KINDA fits if you forget what we were originally going for..." stage.

Space 220 doesn’t fit?

 

[ChrisFL]

Ironically we're having this conversation as as I parked at EPCOT yesterday I realized they have a Wall-E parking lot

 

[Moth]

"The future" in a generic sci-fi sense was never meant to be the theme of Epcot. It was supposed to be about reality. Human possibility.

Think the ending scene of Carousel of Progress vs. a Star Trek episode. Very different things.

I don't expect anything that actually fits in Epcot to ever go in there again, though. All the parks have fully moved into the "well, TECHNICALLY it KINDA fits if you forget what we were originally going for..." stage.

I think Wall-E shows how technology can co-exist with humanity, nature and be used to benefit everyone when used responsibility. The credits of it outright depict that and one of the main themes of Wall-E is that humanity must get themselves back on track without the unhealthy overreliance on technology.

"Now our Future World draws near ... and we face the challenge of tomorrow. We must return and take command of our Spaceship Earth ... to become captains of our own destiny ... to reach out and fulfill our dreams."

Wall-E fits in EPCOT, it's just hard to point to a pavilion for him to go to. If only there was a place in EPCOT that showcased technology where he'd be a great mascot for...

Wall-E fits better in EPCOT than Tomorrowland in my eyes. Tomorrowland is a future "that never was", WALL-E is both a cautionary tale and a story about co-existence with technology and how to do it healthily.


I find Wall-E and a plausible inclusion in EPCOT no different than Nemo being apart of The Seas, where it connects to one of the themes of the film and can be used to 'plus up' a space. Besides, we have Moana and Guardians of the Galaxy in EPCOT now, if anything, WALL-E would heal EPCOT more than damage. You really can't get worse than shoehorning a Moana attraction into EPCOT.

 

[Tha Realest]

No offense but this kinda annoys me for some reason Are the credits part of the story? Yes? then they are important context you cannot ignore I would rather see wall-e go in Tomorrowland than Epcot but I had to call this out

I look at the “credits” really as an epilogue where you get to see the payoff for Wall-E’s heroism

 

[mattpeto]

I think Wall-E shows how technology can co-exist with humanity, nature and be used to benefit everyone when used responsibility. The credits of it outright depict that and one of the main themes of Wall-E is that humanity must get themselves back on track without the unhealthy overreliance on technology.

"Now our Future World draws near ... and we face the challenge of tomorrow. We must return and take command of our Spaceship Earth ... to become captains of our own destiny ... to reach out and fulfill our dreams."

Wall-E fits in EPCOT, it's just hard to point to a pavilion for him to go to. If only there was a place in EPCOT that showcased technology where he'd be a great mascot for...

Wall-E fits better in EPCOT than Tomorrowland in my eyes. Tomorrowland is a future "that never was", WALL-E is both a cautionary tale and a story about co-existence with technology and how to do it healthily.


I find Wall-E and a plausible inclusion in EPCOT no different than Nemo being apart of The Seas, where it connects to one of the themes of the film and can be used to 'plus up' a space. Besides, we have Moana and Guardians of the Galaxy in EPCOT now, if anything, WALL-E would heal EPCOT more than damage. You really can't get worse than shoehorning a Moana attraction into EPCOT.

Wall-E at the WoL could be match somehow.

 

[Moth]

Wall-E at the WoL could be match somehow.

I like that idea. I think changing the theme from health could be a play? What about... A robotics pavilion? Technology pavilion? Seems redundant but nobody really knows what Guardians is supposed to be in terms of pavilion.

Have a show with WALL-E, WALL-E meet and greet with that cute real one they made, and you're selling.