I've been going to Epcot since a few months after opening and in many different seasons. I've never experienced the excess crowds at the pinch points you're talking about. Busy, yes. Unbearable, no. After seeing the new plaza gardens area, I'd take the thoughtful design excellence of the original FoN and the surrounding area hands down over what's there now. But to each his own.
Agreed! and I am terrified it is going to be akin to this mess.
If they had called this area World Celebration back then for the core center part it would suited by the canopies alone. What we have now doesn't connect nor feel World Celebration zero!
Are we comparing the broken Epcot floors to what Rocket Rods did to the PeopleMover building and track for it to not able to bring back the PeopleMover?
I think it's fair to dislike much of it, but CommuniCore Hall is just especially cheap and offensive, IMO.FTFY
I never remember the walk passing FON to be a bottleneck or annoyance. People knew where they were going to. Would it only be a problem at rope drop if crowds were running to Frozen?
People, everyone were so in awed in Epcot mode by the Innoventions/Future World Music Loop which bears zero unbearing, they'd laugh at you if you questioned them if they felt unbearable. No one is complaining how tight and small Main Street USA is nor saying it's unbearable because the charm, the music etc, if people have what they want from their happy place they won't care for unnecessary things like that because at the same time they love the FON so much! <3
They need more attractions like Moana in Epcot.
This area at the end of a long day esp at night really can make everyone relaxed out mind spirit free and let loose especially kids. The only thing that would ruin that offering is if after you went straight to the evening and hanged at the DJ Flex space at Communicore Blast!
I was there for many rope drops, no, it wasn’t. The current perimeter walkways aren’t much wider than they were when the FoN was there, CommuniCore Hall arguably makes it worse because it encourages loitering in the walkways. Walking past the Fountain of Nations wasn’t an issue, and even if it was, you had multiple other options to get from World Showcase to SSE even during park clearing.
Your right, they aren't wider and even though you have many options to flow in paths doesn't improve a change as if you could run faster. It doesn't appeal to me to walk beside Communicore Hall, I still prefer walking middle or down Creation's unless it's park close and it's empty everywhere.
They can level CommuniCore Hall for all I care, though I will say that one aspect of this refresh that I actually quite like is the rehabilitation of the other Communicore building. It really gives a sense of what could have been if only they hadn't ever proposed that table building.
That's not what I meant. I don't want them to demolish Creations or Connections. I want them to demolish CommuniCore Hall and, rather than build the table, replace it with the kind of structures and landscaping that were originally supposed to be situated in the southeast portion of the area where Creations now resides. I think those structures could nicely encapsulate F&B, M&G, performance, and possibly even attraction spaces quite easily. Picture with arrow indicator to what I'm talking about for reference:
You can imagine, you could even imagine if something on the East was instead West side like Club Cool and Starbucks which use to be as more liklier than Creation's or Connection's one of them going on that side or both the possibilities is endless. If we had the other Communicore building rehabilitated it would be what the Communicore Hall is, the meet and greets area would stay, does it mean we would not lose Baymax? Epcot's center core right now is basically Epic Universe Celestial Park where either sides doesn't have identical symmetry. Epcot's center is concrete, Epic's is water. The only improvement you could do is either when Communicore Hall is demolished move the meet and greets to Connection's Eatery. Build a smaller Communicore Building or unique fitting architecture structure with a dome to house Starbucks. Perhaps The Connection's Eatery could move front where Starbucks is and the back is the character meet and greets. Just brainstorming here.
Heads will roll? You think people will suddenly get fired for this almost a year after it finished?
I would add Awesome Planet and Space 220
That's what's scary with gutting Magic Kingdom even more so than Epcot!
