Haunted Mansion closing for refurbishment in December and Yankee Trader refurb extended

Sage of Time

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You're entitled to your opinion, buy to refer to Haunted Mansion Holiday as "clutter" is absurd.
Clutter is something that has no purpose or defined space. Tacking characters and decor up on a WED classic is my definition of clutter.

Looks like I stepped on some Californian tails. Sorry. Just how I feel. Y'all can keep your Mansion. I love Disneyland to death, but HMH is not part of that love. LOL
 

Californian Elitist

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Clutter is something that has no purpose or defined space. Tacking characters and decor up on a WED classic is my definition of clutter.

Looks like I stepped on some Californian tails. Sorry. Just how I feel. Y'all can keep your Mansion. I love Disneyland to death, but HMH is not part of that love. LOL

I'm not offended by any means. As I said, you're entitled to your opinion.

"Clutter" doesn't refer to something that has no purpose. Something without defined space, sure. If anything, the words you're looking for are "futile", "desultory", or "aimless." The definition of "clutter" is is a compilation of things untidily lying around in a large quantity.

This is an example of clutter:

clutter.jpg


The Haunted Mansion Holiday does not fit the definition of "clutter." Just a few examples:

Haunted-Mansion-Holiday.jpg


Haunted-Mansion-Holiday-.jpg
 

SpaceMountain75

Well-Known Member
My family and I are not locals, but we rode Haunted Mansion Holiday for the first time last week and loved it! It is the textbook definition of a good overlay that isn't gaudy, but rather, classy. I can't count the the number of times I muttered "woah" from start to finish. Between the chilling music in the stretching room, to the ballroom with the gingerbread, to the Jack Skellington animatronic in the graveyard (my personal favorite!) it was quite stunning. I could have ridden it over and over and not seen all the details scattered throughout! It certainly (in my opinion) wasn't cluttered.
 

Sage of Time

Well-Known Member
I'm not offended by any means. As I said, you're entitled to your opinion.

"Clutter" doesn't refer to something that has no purpose. Something without defined space, sure. If anything, the words you're looking for are "futile", "desultory", or "aimless." The definition of "clutter" is is a compilation of things untidily lying around in a large quantity.

This is an example of clutter:

clutter.jpg


The Haunted Mansion Holiday does not fit the definition of "clutter." Just a few examples:

Haunted-Mansion-Holiday.jpg


Haunted-Mansion-Holiday-.jpg
You're entitled to that opinion, but you're no more right about this than I. :)
 

Sage of Time

Well-Known Member
Well the definition of "clutter" is not opinionated, so if something doesn't match the definition, it's not clutter. That would be like calling a tugboat a ship. You can claim a tugboat is a ship, but it's not at the end of the day.
If you have to bring in semantics, sure, but I see it as clutter. That's all I have to say. HMH isn't by thing.
 

EPCOTCenterLover

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Since my last 5 or 6 visits to DLR have been in October thru December (due to work), I haven't seen regular Mansion in years. I miss it! I think HMH is good and in parts excellent, but I'm not a big fan of the characters of the movie. I'd rather have the original.
 

Rosso11

Well-Known Member
At this point in time I do not believe The Nightmare Before Christmas should be a seasonal overlay on the Haunted Mansion. It has now stood the test of time and is no longer just a cult classic. It has proved to not only be a Holloween but a Christmas classic in many households. It has proved to Disney that is sells loads of merchandise year in and year out 20 years after it's release. It deserves more than an overlay. In my opinion it should have its own mini land at MGM. Holloween town should be built with a classic dark ride, stores and a resturant. You should be able to wonder around Holloween town in a fully themed environment. It should be the centerpiece of Disney's slightly scarier Holloween party they have been trying to launch for years. Then for Christmas obviously decorated for Christmas with its own unique twist. The Nightmare Before Christmas deserves more than a seasonal overlay. Much more
 

Mike S

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At this point in time I do not believe The Nightmare Before Christmas should be a seasonal overlay on the Haunted Mansion. It has now stood the test of time and is no longer just a cult classic. It has proved to not only be a Holloween but a Christmas classic in many households. It has proved to Disney that is sells loads of merchandise year in and year out 20 years after it's release. It deserves more than an overlay. In my opinion it should have its own mini land at MGM. Holloween town should be built with a classic dark ride, stores and a resturant. You should be able to wonder around Holloween town in a fully themed environment. It should be the centerpiece of Disney's slightly scarier Holloween party they have been trying to launch for years. Then for Christmas obviously decorated for Christmas with its own unique twist. The Nightmare Before Christmas deserves more than a seasonal overlay. Much more
It could be in DHS. Or, a fifth park ;) @ParentsOf4 makes a good argument that a new park is needed at WDW for capacity reasons so why not put NBC there?
 

heath.sneyd

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Haven't been in 10 years, but just my 2 cents...

There's a reason most of us who shop at larger malls stay away from Hot Topic.
If you give the WDW HM the HMH overlay, might as well change the Momento Mori to Hot Topic as well.
Nothing is more annoying than all these kids running around, ed off at the world, acting like they don't want to be anywhere they're at, except for the fact it's TNBC themed and they got on their Jack Skellington tees.
Get happy or go home!

I shall now step off my soapbox.
 

tenchikiss

Active Member
We were at the Christmas Party on Thursday and at around 5 o clock we saw quite a few cast members in front of the Haunted Mansion despite us knowing it was down for refurbishment. We thought it was odd and went on our way. Later in the night when we were in search of cookies we noticed it was up and running so off we went. We aren't experts by any means so we can't remember every detail of this ride to compare differences. We did notice that the man/skeleton in the coffin (not the graveyard one) was making noises. Like he was calling out for help when he was pushing the coffin open. That was pretty cool. We talked to some cast members after the ride and they implied (in a nice Disney way) that they were pushed into opening this ride early thus perhaps some things didn't get done this time around. But one of the cast members said something of the things that were fixed hadn't worked since 2007. X____X Everything seemed nice to me and brighter. I can't comment on any torn wallpaper as I never noticed that before.
 

mikenatcity1

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We were at the Christmas Party on Thursday and at around 5 o clock we saw quite a few cast members in front of the Haunted Mansion despite us knowing it was down for refurbishment. We thought it was odd and went on our way. Later in the night when we were in search of cookies we noticed it was up and running so off we went. We aren't experts by any means so we can't remember every detail of this ride to compare differences. We did notice that the man/skeleton in the coffin (not the graveyard one) was making noises. Like he was calling out for help when he was pushing the coffin open. That was pretty cool. We talked to some cast members after the ride and they implied (in a nice Disney way) that they were pushed into opening this ride early thus perhaps some things didn't get done this time around. But one of the cast members said something of the things that were fixed hadn't worked since 2007. X____X Everything seemed nice to me and brighter. I can't comment on any torn wallpaper as I never noticed that before.

Us too! At 7pm we saw people going up to the Mansion and the cast members said the Mansion was officially opening for the party. I was so excited! A couple things seemed fresher than prior. Our friend with us hadn't been since 1979 and was so sad it was closed until the party. That was a great christmas gift in deed :)
 

Wildflower

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Went Friday, rode and were told it was officially a "soft opening" and could close at any time. Didn't notice much different aside from the mentioned wallpaper fix. We WERE able to make FP+ for Sunday (means it's officially open I guess?)....went to ride and it was shut down with everyone in line made to leave as well. Ah well.
 

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