"8 Simple Rules" to continue as family tragedy

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LOS ANGELES, Sept 16 (Reuters) - ABC said on Tuesday it was reshaping its hit comedy show "8 Simple Rules for Dating My Teenage Daughter" following the sudden death of main star John Ritter, and taking the TV family through the loss of a beloved father.

Saying it was entering "uncharted waters" for prime-time network television, ABC executives said all those associated with the show, including Ritter's widow Amy Yasbeck, wanted to continue.

But since there was no question of replacing Ritter as the stay-at-home TV dad with two troublesome teenage daughters, the network decided to write real life into the storyline.

"Future episodes will take viewers into the Hennessy household as they experience the loss of a beloved father and construct a new life," Lloyd Braun, chairman of the ABC Entertainment Television Group, told reporters.

Ritter, 54, collapsed in Burbank last Thursday while filming the fourth episode of the upcoming second season of the show. He died in hospital of a previously undetected heart ailment.

His death not only robbed American audiences of a favorite TV star but left the ailing ABC network facing a tough choice days before launching its new prime-time lineup in which "8 Simple Rules" was considered a linchpin.

The show proved to be ABC's highest-rated comedy in 2002, placing a respectable 43 among nearly 190 prime time shows. It helped the network, which trails CBS, FOX and NBC in ratings, reestablish itself as the home of family-friendly comedies.

ABC had been widely expected to shelve the series given the central part played by Ritter's character in the comedic father-daughter dynamic.

But executives said they would go ahead on Sept. 23. as scheduled with airing the three new episodes of "8 Simple Rules", and then air repeats while the writers and cast worked on the comedy show's sudden transformation into tragedy.

"We are going some place that no other show has gone, but it feels right," said Susan Lyne, president ABC Entertainment.

"We don't pretend to have a roadmap here; as in life, we will take it an episode at a time and find laughs where they feel natural and right," Lyne said.

ABC said it had not yet figured out how Ritter's TV character would die, nor many other details of how what started as a laugh-a-minute sitcom would continue to win ratings as a large as life tragedy.

Few TV sitcoms have found a formula for success after the death or departure of key actors. CBS tried writing in the death of the character played by comedian Redd Foxx in "The Royal Family" after the actor's own death a month after the show premiered in 1991, but the series did not catch on.

ABC admitted that a ratings-friendly transition of "8 Simple Rules" would be unprecedented for network television but executives declined to specify how long they would give the series to succeed.

"We are committed to returning this show and having it continue as a dominant show on our network but we all realize this is uncharted territory," Braun said.
 

Wilson

Member
Wow, I was sure they'd drop it and use Drew Carey or extra According to Jims or something. Bold move. I hope it continues to find an audience. It might, now that I think about it, I'm more likely to tune in now than before just to see how they'll pull this off.
 

trekkie

New Member
The President of abc says that they did it because john ritter would've wanted the show to go on.

To me, it's a bunch of bs. It's all about money. ABC is a joke in the ratings; 8 Simple Rules was to be their way to stay afloat this season (Besides MNF and MNL, of course); the station is desperate (What else is new?).

Nevertheless, it will be interesting to see how they pull it off after John Ritter's final episodes are shown.
 

Goofster

Member
I think there was obviously some abc excutives thinking that they can't just shelve the show cause they want to make money, but at the same time, this is definitely the way it should be. John's spirit will live on in the show, because he touched everyone on that set, onstage and off, and they have something special there. I think John would've wanted it this way, and obviously his wife wants them to continue. Of course people will disagree with me, but i definitely think that the john ritter i saw in the special last night was the kind of guy who would want those around him to keep living life and doing what they love and carrying on his joy filled memory.
 

trekkie

New Member
History has shwon that this type of stuff -- continuing a show even after the star leaves -- never flies, so it'll be interesting to see what happens when the series premieres without Ritter.

Personally, I think it would have been better to let the show exit on a high note, instead of the now-inevitable low one.

Spin City falls totally flat by the last season; not because of Charlie Sheen (Who is wonderful at comedy), but because the writing becomes awful.

The writing for The Practice has gotten pretty bad; replacing the lead actor -- one of the only reasons to watch the last couple seasons -- with someone else practically assures a quick death.

I think the new 8 Simple Rules will fail. John Ritter provided a perfect comedic style that the rest of the cast could play wonderfully off of. They had a great chemistry.

It's like Spin City. While Charlie Sheen is wonderful, after MJF leaves, the show never overcomes the problem of establishing a real chemistry between the other main four -- Carter, Stewart, Paul and the Mayor. It just wasn't there. And I do think that 50% of a shows survival depends on chemistry (Of course, the other half is good writing, something Spin City ended up lacking:) ).
 

Maria

New Member
A&E is having a John Ritter special program on Tuesday at 10:30pm my time. I´m not sure if it has aired in the US already, but I am guessing it already has.
 

Goofster

Member
Just thought id take a second to say that I thought the season premiere of 8 Simple Rules last night was one of the funniest half hours of television i have seen in a while. The first five or ten minutes had me laughing non-stop. John Ritter really was amazing. I also thought the tribute at the beginning was a nice simple touch, and it was great to see all the television show making risks they took, and i thought they all turned out great. Man, John really is an amazing guy, and they really had something special going there, i hope that in honor of john, once he leaves the show he will have left behind a little of that spark that he brought wherever he went, and the show can eventually keep up the joy it brings to people and fullfill John's dream.
 

SpongeScott

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Goofster
Just thought id take a second to say that I thought the season premiere of 8 Simple Rules last night was one of the funniest half hours of television i have seen in a while. The first five or ten minutes had me laughing non-stop. John Ritter really was amazing. I also thought the tribute at the beginning was a nice simple touch, and it was great to see all the television show making risks they took, and i thought they all turned out great. Man, John really is an amazing guy, and they really had something special going there, i hope that in honor of john, once he leaves the show he will have left behind a little of that spark that he brought wherever he went, and the show can eventually keep up the joy it brings to people and fullfill John's dream.
Our daughter had a soccer game and we forgot to set the VCR, so we called a neighbor and asked her to tape it for us and we didn't get the very beginning. What did they do for a tribute?
 

trekkie

New Member
Unfortunately, I forgot it was on :(

I love John Ritter; and this decision to continue his show after he dies is the lowest form of greed.

The star dies; and instead of ending the show on a high note and showing respect, ABC does exactly the opposite.

What filfthy rich and egoccentric executives won't do for money...
 

prberk

Well-Known Member
I still don't have power (typing this after work on work PC). Power lines still down on my house, after trees fell on it (and pulled off cable and phone also)....

So I guess I might see it in time for the special episode to deal with the grief. They say maybe two more weeks or more til Virginia is completely restored. Happy to still have a house and my life.

Life on earth is truly precious and short.
 

trekkie

New Member
Glad to hear you're alright.

God, all these great celebrities dying recently at young ages (Mr. Rogers, Barry White, John Ritter, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings... , and then you experience something like this ... really makes one think.
 

TURKEY

New Member
Originally posted by trekkie
Glad to hear you're alright.

God, all these great celebrities dying recently at young ages (Mr. Rogers, Barry White, John Ritter, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings... , and then you experience something like this ... really makes one think.

Johnny Cash wasn't that young, especially considering the drugs and alcohol abuse from his younger days.
 

TURKEY

New Member
Originally posted by trekkie
Unfortunately, I forgot it was on :(

I love John Ritter; and this decision to continue his show after he dies is the lowest form of greed.

The star dies; and instead of ending the show on a high note and showing respect, ABC does exactly the opposite.

What filfthy rich and egoccentric executives won't do for money...

So the fact that John Ritter's wife and the cast wanting the show to go on doesn't matter I guess. :rolleyes:
 

meeko_33785

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by trekkie
Glad to hear you're alright.

God, all these great celebrities dying recently at young ages (Mr. Rogers, Barry White, John Ritter, Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings... , and then you experience something like this ... really makes one think.

Umm.. Mr. Rogers was 75, so I wouldn't define that as "dying at a young age". He is missed though.

As for the show, I did manage to catch it on Tuesday and thought it was petty good. I hope they keep John Ratsenburg and Cindy Williams (wasn't her part played by Shelly Long last season) on as part of the cast. With the plot of John's character dying, I think it would be nice for Cate to have a few friends to be able to confide in. All in all, I really hope the show continues to do well. It would be such a shame if they let the show die with John insteed of keeping his spirit alive by continuing it.
 

Goofster

Member
Yeah, i think they could've stopped the show, but to honor John, they should keep it going. Obviously none of us really know what we're talking about, since we didn't know john ritter personally, but the impression i've recieved from the specials and interviews of people who did was that John just wanted all the people around him to be Happy, and wanted to bring joy wherever he could. The best way to keep his spirit alive and honor his memory is to have the show keep doing what it did with him, spreading joy and laughter and making people happy. Of course, that's just my opinion, and we definitely don't need to start some kind of an argument, but the show is still existing, that is a fact, and we can all just hope for the best.

*And yes, the part of Mrs. Doyle that Cindy Williams played was played by Shelley Long last season, it was nice to see that as crazy as that Doyle family seems, they really do love their friends and are happy to help out their neighbors whenever they can.
 

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