Hayley In Wonderland
Well-Known Member
Whats your point? This is a discussion about dogs, not fruit.Bananas and eggplants are both technically fruits; nonetheless, only one of those is joining my peanut butter in a sandwich for lunch today.
Whats your point? This is a discussion about dogs, not fruit.Bananas and eggplants are both technically fruits; nonetheless, only one of those is joining my peanut butter in a sandwich for lunch today.
Apologies, I often forget rules are different in the UK as they are in America. In the UK I believe all service dogs have to undergo specific training, for which they are awarded documentation. Here they also wear a different coloured vest depending on their persons needs, i.e. burgandy for deaf, florescent for guide dogs etc. So I just presumed regulations in the US are similar.Per the ADA:
1) Service dogs are not required to wear any form of vest, harness or any special identification.
2) Service dogs do not have to be tested, certified or licensed by any organization. It is perfectly legal to train your own service dog.
3) Service dogs do not have to be leashed, if the leash would interfere with their ability to perform their work, but if not leashed they must be under voice or hand signal control.
4) Service dogs can be any breed or mixed breed.
5) Service dogs must be allowed to accompany their owner any where it is reasonably safe for them to do so, and it's illegal to put them in special "dog friendly" areas, they have to have the same access as everyone else.
I stood in human sick once at a theme park. Someone threw up and didn't let anyone know to clean it up. Things like that happen, and can happen in ANY public area. A lot of dogs are toilet trained, and this may be one incident where maybe the dog was not feeling too good. It happens.I just know if I were walking around Disney looking up and enjoying all the sights and I stepped in a pile of dog poop it would be at least a medium size deal. And by the number of paper towels spread out in the pictures it either was a dog that really had a lot of poops or there was at least one squishy step leaving a trail and some nice smelly dog poop in the treads of your shoes on vacation. Second thought - maybe medium and a half deal?
Surely then if the parks and resorts weren't in any position to hold or house dogs, they wouldn't allow service dogs in hotels or parks? They wouldn't have brought in this new policy in the first place. I'm not saying they do have to specify, however someone's arguement was dogs are "animals" and humans are not. Humans are classed as animals. Also, why are you insulting me over a debate? I've caused no personal offence to you, so why react in that way?OMG, is this really what this thread has devolved into?
Pedantic. Look it up.
In general conversation, pretty much everywhere but an actual scientific paper, one does not have to specify "human" vs. "non-human animals".
WDW was built and designed for "human animals". It was not built and designed for "non-human animals", with the exceptions of the kennels which were built off of the main parking lots because the only people who would even consider bringing dogs to the resort used to be day visitors passing through.
Yeah, this does seem a bit off, especially if service dogs are not required to wear any form of identification on them, I.E a vest or a verified tag or whatever. I can understand not wanting to discriminate, but at the end of the day, this then stops people identifying service dogs and family dogs.The resorts are not allowed to ask for proof per federal law. Which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. As I stated earlier, the feds need to fix the law so that ID for service animals cannot be faked, and make it okay for businesses to ask to see said animal's certification.
I stood in human sick once at a theme park. Someone threw up and didn't let anyone know to clean it up. Things like that happen, and can happen in ANY public area. A lot of dogs are toilet trained, and this may be one incident where maybe the dog was not feeling too good. It happens.
I have 3 dogs at home, so poop doesn't bother me. However, I am awful with vomit & it makes me feel sick! It depends on the person I guess - some are okay with sick but not poo, and vice versa.That would also be a medium deal. Of course human sick is gross - but not as nasty as poop
I have 3 dogs at home, so poop doesn't bother me. However, I am awful with vomit & it makes me feel sick! It depends on the person I guess - some are okay with sick but not poo, and vice versa.
I mentioned in an earlier post that I am fairly neutral on this issue, but I do have one thing to say. Sooner or later, once people start bringing their dogs to WDW resorts, someone is going to get bitten or even threatened by someone else's dog, and, to me, that will probably end this experiment for good, especially if the guest takes legal action against Disney. Disney does not want bad PR, I'm sure, like the backlash they received over the gator attack, so one public incident like I described would be enough to end it. To all the pro-dog crowd who say "there's no way any dog that comes to WDW would act like that"-you can't guarantee that, especially if people start bringing their dogs in larger numbers. If you, as a dog owner, have never had your dog around larger crowds, loud sounds, and a completely unfamiliar environment, there is no way that you can 100% predict what that dog will do, even if the dog is fully trained. I am saying this, as someone who loves dogs and owns one. One ugly incident, even with all of the $ Disney may make from this, and this is over.
I stood in human sick once at a theme park. Someone threw up and didn't let anyone know to clean it up. Things like that happen, and can happen in ANY public area. A lot of dogs are toilet trained, and this may be one incident where maybe the dog was not feeling too good. It happens.
Okay but... still only actually illegal in one county.Omg it isn’t just one county.. it is many areas in Florida.. and even where they are allowed there are many restrictions on where they can go in public.
I know logic isn’t supposed to be used here, but they aren’t as common as people think. Even less common to be a dog seen at a hotel.
Let the hysteria continue though.
Mean dogs.
Owners who haven’t trained their dogs.
Dogs on furniture everywhere.
Dogs peeing and pooping on furniture.
Dogs peeing and pooping all over the resort grounds.
Dogs attacking people.
Everyone bent over in allergy fits.
Lawsuits against people and Disney over dogs.
I may have missed one or two..
All of it ignoring that a ton of hotels have been doing this for years already, quite successfully.
That's like 595 dog pages!I am not judging but....85 pages eh?
That's like 595 dog pages!
If dogs weren't allowed - as it used to be, it wouldn't happen.
If you put one particular poster on ignore, the number of posts and for that matter meaningless words, drops precipitously.I am not judging but....85 pages eh?
77 if one certain member would just go away....I am not judging but....85 pages eh?
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