$4 a gallon... we aren't going...

[maggiegrace1]

I don't think anyone is trying to "win" in this situation but it can put things into perspective for some. I cancelled a trip earlier due to finances and other issues that couldn't be helped but finding out that I would be paying $2.00 less per gallon driving in the US makes me wonder if I should look into a lengthy road trip instead of flying to Disney in the next year

I understand that and that makes sense..:wave:...

but op are saying things that I posted..That they have it so much worse and "you have it easy" and "try living here"..it is things like that that made me post what I said.

Where it seems like it is a competition.

 

[Elonwy]

I understand that and that makes sense..:wave:...

but op are saying things that I posted..That they have it so much worse and "you have it easy" and "try living here"..it is things like that that made me post what I said.

Where it seems like it is a competition.

Yeah...I see the competition aspect of this thread. I try to stay out of it but sometimes I swear people are just out there trying to get me all riled up It's easy to say things like "try living here" but i think we all know that there's good and bad no matter where you go.

I'm just going to keep my rose coloured glasses on and only see the good though :animwink:

 

[bjlc57]

I find it unfair to be thrashed on here..

it totally not fair to jump on me for doing a couple of things. the most is telling the truth.

I am sorry if I don't see the correlation between the price of gas in Europe, as opposed to the price of gas here. Like I said, Europe uses at least part of its gas taxes to pay for governmental health care.

and two, you want to go to Disney in Europe, Gees how far is it? 545 miles to Disney Europe in Paris from Berlin., 645 from Vienna. and those are the extremes.. that's not even half way for some one like me. or may be exactly half way. and you can do Euro Disney and be back home in London in a day.

but I have been told that I have "the Wrong car".. or that we must be "bigger people.." wow. talk about immediate prejudices. None of which deals with the economic problem, $4 a gallon for gas.

and while a joke may have seem appropriate, it didn't sound like a joke.

Not while my state is losing jobs. and that means others will lose their jobs as well.

I am not bitter. But I am also not going to go into debt either. Not for a trip to WDW.

think about this, my vehicle is paid for. I have no other loans besides a fairly low balance on my credit card.( of which should be paid off within three months or so.) None. I have been a good steward of my money.

I am living within my means. and that means NOT increasing my debt to go to Disney.

but to jump on me because you want to drink the kool aid, that WDW is the end all and be all, and that we need to go at any cost, because desire is more important then putting your self deeper in debt. I find that very wrong.

Now maybe I should have been a little more lax on the European posters, and I am sorry that I made a geographical statement, a true statement, on this person's initial post. but I am also pointing out that there are reasons why gas is as high as it is in Europe. and they are legit reasons. it is paying for something. and governmental health care is one of them. they were paying $4 when oil was $20 a barrel. Why? its a government tax . Just as other countries are SUBSIDIZING gas prices so their people are paying less then a dollar a gallon. So there have been benefits for why the Europeans are paying what they pay for gas.

there is a big picture here. try to see it. and try not to make personal attacks due to personal prejudices .

 

[Dragonrider1227]

I want to set the entire oil industry on fire sometimes We're taking the train on our next trip partially for this reason

 

[photoflight]

:goodnevil

 

[jt04]

I want to set the entire oil industry on fire sometimes We're taking the train on our next trip partially for this reason

I thought everyone wants less green house gasses. The best way to do that is higher prices to cut back on use. So which is it? The oil companies are evil because they contribute to global warming or the oil companies are evil because high prices cause less global warming??? I am confused by the duplicity of the oil company bashers.

 

[sknydave]

it totally not fair to jump on me for doing a couple of things. the most is telling the truth.

I am sorry if I don't see the correlation between the price of gas in Europe, as opposed to the price of gas here. Like I said, Europe uses at least part of its gas taxes to pay for governmental health care.

and two, you want to go to Disney in Europe, Gees how far is it? 545 miles to Disney Europe in Paris from Berlin., 645 from Vienna. and those are the extremes.. that's not even half way for some one like me. or may be exactly half way. and you can do Euro Disney and be back home in London in a day.

but I have been told that I have "the Wrong car".. or that we must be "bigger people.." wow. talk about immediate prejudices. None of which deals with the economic problem, $4 a gallon for gas.

and while a joke may have seem appropriate, it didn't sound like a joke.

Not while my state is losing jobs. and that means others will lose their jobs as well.

I am not bitter. But I am also not going to go into debt either. Not for a trip to WDW.

think about this, my vehicle is paid for. I have no other loans besides a fairly low balance on my credit card.( of which should be paid off within three months or so.) None. I have been a good steward of my money.

I am living within my means. and that means NOT increasing my debt to go to Disney.

but to jump on me because you want to drink the kool aid, that WDW is the end all and be all, and that we need to go at any cost, because desire is more important then putting your self deeper in debt. I find that very wrong.

Now maybe I should have been a little more lax on the European posters, and I am sorry that I made a geographical statement, a true statement, on this person's initial post. but I am also pointing out that there are reasons why gas is as high as it is in Europe. and they are legit reasons. it is paying for something. and governmental health care is one of them. they were paying $4 when oil was $20 a barrel. Why? its a government tax . Just as other countries are SUBSIDIZING gas prices so their people are paying less then a dollar a gallon. So there have been benefits for why the Europeans are paying what they pay for gas.

there is a big picture here. try to see it. and try not to make personal attacks due to personal prejudices .

Have you even read a single reply? You continue to argue points I have yet to see anyone make.

 

[bjlc57]

its been over 20 days..

It has been over 20 days since I started this post. Gas still remains in the $4 category.

I have noticed that Disney is running their "we can afford that ad" on a continuous basis.

have any more of you decided to change your plans?

and has the price of gas totally changed your current habits?

as for me and my house, we still cannot go under this gas price climate.

 

[disneymyway]

I know that it is worse in Europe but the people I know there work so much closer to where they live, and we are not set up with the same mass transit (for the most part) as they are.

This is a big change for Americans and a big hardship because of it. Maybe it will force people to start living closer to where they need to drive.

At any rate WDW is a 2000 round trip and driving used to be an economical way to get there.

You just can't compare the two situations, driving in America and driving in Europe - they are very different things.


For me, a road trip is out -- but I keep looking for cheap air fare. I'm using DME while I'm there.

 

[Fluxuated]

It has been over 20 days since I started this post. Gas still remains in the $4 category.

I have noticed that Disney is running their "we can afford that ad" on a continuous basis.

have any more of you decided to change your plans?

and has the price of gas totally changed your current habits?

as for me and my house, we still cannot go under this gas price climate.

I'm confused?? Are you trying to Stir the pot again? This thread died, let it be. And did you actually expect that gas would be back down below $4? Hey it could be worse, you could be Driving a Suburban. Oh, wait, never mind.

 

[photoflight]

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[AEfx]

That was in another century....It was $3.00 a year ago.

In 2001, this century, average price for a gallon of gas was somewhere around $1.85, I believe (just read it a few days ago). And up until 2005, it hovered around the $2.30ish mark, going up after the post-Katrina gouge and then back down again.

In 1929, a gallon of gas cost .12cents (I happened to have that figure handy LOL). From 1929 to 2001 gas went from .12cents to $1.85 per gallon (over 70+ years). In just the last couple of years, gas has seen an absolutely unprecedented inflation. It took 70+ years to get from .12cents to $1.85, and then a half a decade to hit $4+. That's the issue here.

We are paying record prices for gas, and the oil companies and CEO's are taking record profits. The only people that makes sense to are those who are getting the record profits, and the anger in America is growing exponentially every day over that fact.

AEfx

 

[raven]

 

[Mick G.]

For our October trip, we are going to fly for the first time in a long time. Got some good prices at Southwest, by flying during the week, instead of the weekend. I would imagine that air prices will go up more in November.

We also just bought a newer [used] car that gets 32 Mpg. Fun to drive, too. [And I work from home, so my commute is 15 seconds.] So we have done other things to deal with the prices. And if all else fails, we could fire up the new car and drive to Florida for about $220. Hey, that's not bad...

In terms of the cause of high prices, it's not just the oil companies. But this gets into political and economic discussions that don't really belong on this board.

Mick

 

[xsupaxmanxsfnex]

hahaha Maybe the price will go down?:shrug:

 

[Boray]

We drive every year, approximately 2800 miles round trip. Last year, we averaged about $3 per gallon, this year, about $4. The difference in gas for the entire trip, based on the above estimates, is $140. (Last year's minivan, averaged 20 mpg highway, this year, we bought a new minivan, that averages 25 mpg highway. My above estimate is based on 20 mpg. With that in mind, the cost difference is actually less than $140). That's not enough to change my trip. If I'm spending, say $3000 (or more) for a vacation that gives me quality family time, and I really enjoy, $140 isn't going to "make or break" my vacation.

My thought is that gas is going to have to go up to at least $6 before my family considers not driving to Disney every year. (That is, of course, not considering major food increases or ticket increases.)

 

[WDW Monorail]

It disgusts me that people are not willing to pay $4.00 for gasoline but shell out $4.30 every morning for a cup of coffee and sugar.

A gallon of water costs about $3.00 at the local store and people don't complain about that. Nor do they complain of the 24oz water bottle sold for $4.50.

Considering the amount of processing that goes in to refining and transporting gasoline, $4.00 is dirt cheap. But unfortunately, people will never understand.

 

[Eyorefan]

It has been over 20 days since I started this post. Gas still remains in the $4 category.

I have noticed that Disney is running their "we can afford that ad" on a continuous basis.

have any more of you decided to change your plans?

and has the price of gas totally changed your current habits?

as for me and my house, we still cannot go under this gas price climate.

Maybe its just were I live, but the price of gas has droped a cent or two everyday this week, and I have yet to pay $4 for a gallon. :veryconfu

Either way, I don't drive that much to begin with. So no, my trips for September 08, July 09 and September 09 are still on....

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Perhaps they could modify engines to run on the hot air this site produces.

 

[disneymyway]

It disgusts me that people are not willing to pay $4.00 for gasoline but shell out $4.30 every morning for a cup of coffee and sugar.

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Really? It disgusts you? Isn't that a little harsh?

It's not that people aren't willing, at least people I know. They must pay $4 because that's what it costs and they have to get to work and such.

And with food prices rising people are forced to make decisions. For a lot of people it would be a foolish thing to go if they really can't afford it.

I'm not shelling out $4.30 for coffee and I don't think you can assume everyone who is feeling the crunch right now is either. People have to cut costs where they can and sadly for many it's the drive to WDW that has to go.