Mr. Sullivan
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What are you even referring to?
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News 2023 TEA/AECOM Global Attendance Report, EPCOT Sees Significant Growth
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JKick95
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I imagine they are referring to Minions and Dreamworks Land
doctornick
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I don't really know but my gut feeling is rides like FJ, Spider-Man, Mummy for Uni and FoP, Rise, etc for WDW tend to generate repeat visits because of how well themed and unique they are. I'd even extend that to well designed lands like Diagon Alley.
There's only so many parks that have the kind of immersive theming that Disney and Uni have whereas higher quality coasters are easier to find.
JMcMahonEsq
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It also doesn’t help that it’s the hardest park to get to, with no real resort supported access. Unlike MK, Epcot, or HS, there is not abiliity to walk/monorail/boat over. You lose out on the ease of park hoping over, or a resort day/AK split day
sonoma15
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Probably referring to Veloci and Hagrid, since both Minions and Dreamworks land did not add any new coasters. It's hard to say that Veloci and Hagrid are the reason for Universal's attendance dropping last year considering Veloci opened 2 years before and Hagrid opened 4 years before 2023. Oh yeah, there is also the fact that they are the two most popular attractions currently in the entire resort.
TrainsOfDisney
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I like universal rides - I think they are better than Disney. But every so many years is fine for me.
Disney - if they deliver the full product I fell in love with - I can’t get enough of.
TheMaxRebo
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I'd say Guardians does a good job of drawing people to Epcot. See a lot more chatter about Epcot being the park people hit up more than once each trip since that opened.
I think the mega-E’s… the ones that combine thrill with theming and story very well, are the ones that really bring people back… Tower of Terror, Flight of Passage, Everest, and Guardians come to mind.
Personally, rides that are well themed but lack thrill (Rise) or rides that are thrilling but lack good theming (Velocicoaster) are pull factors, but not the deciding factor for me to book a trip.
ChrisFL
Premium Member
I’m honestly surprised at how close Disneyland Park has come to Magic Kingdom. IMO Disneyland is the superior offering, but it functions much more as a regional park than a destination resort.
I’m honestly surprised EPCOT is so high on the list. The year over year growth has to be a record for WDW, no? You have to attribute that to Guardians and to a lesser extent, Remy.
DHS probably has the best slate of individual rides, but it needs more attractions, more walking space, and lower wait times.
I doubt Tropical Americas moves the needle for DAK, but it may better distribute crowds in that park and perhaps increase Lightning Lane purchases.
I’m honestly surprised EPCOT is so high on the list. The year over year growth has to be a record for WDW, no? You have to attribute that to Guardians and to a lesser extent, Remy.
DHS probably has the best slate of individual rides, but it needs more attractions, more walking space, and lower wait times.
I doubt Tropical Americas moves the needle for DAK, but it may better distribute crowds in that park and perhaps increase Lightning Lane purchases.
TrainsOfDisney
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That’s changing - I don’t think I’m the only one that has pretty much given up on WDW and moved to DL
Sir_Cliff
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I suspect @LSLS has a good point in that a big new ride will get people to visit a park, but it's the sum of the park's parts that will get them to come back more than any one attraction being especially great. This seems likely to be especially true of places like WDW and Uni Orlando where you essentially have to plan a whole holiday around visiting the parks.
I suppose you could argue that, once someone had committed to an Orlando theme park vacation, that they may choose X park over Y park because of a specific attraction. I think what gets them to come back at all, though, is the overall experience. Honestly, Epcot's attendance is a bit of a head scratcher when you thing about its attraction line-up. It only makes sense if you consider that, overall, the park still offers an experience (including the festivals) that keeps people coming back. Universal Hollywood's rise and drop around the opening of Nintendo World may show the limits in unusually quick terms of the bump that a new land or attraction provides if the rest of the experience doesn't have the same draw.
Gusey
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It's interesting to see that of all the domestic Disney Parks, only DCA has returned to pre-Covid numbers:
| Park | 2019 | 2024 |
| Magic Kingdom | 20.96 million | 17.72 million |
| Epcot | 12.44 million | 11.98 million |
| Hollywood Studios | 11.48 million | 10.30 million |
| Animal Kingdom | 13.89 million | 8.77 million |
| Disneyland | 18.67 million | 17.25 million |
| Disney California Adventure | 9.86 million | 10.00 million |
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
You’d think they’d put more emphasis in expanding AK with more (additional) attractions and a night show.
TalkToEthan
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Currently fairly flat
As for macro trends going forward there will be a far smaller pool of potential Universal and Disney park goers due to replacement birth rates and declining population——a population with sufficient disposable income to afford those visits.
TalkToEthan
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A “few cheap coasters” ???? Are you talking about Hagrid, Velocicoaster and something else?
TalkToEthan
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What a bizarre comment….
For the most part nobody is going to travel the globe to ride ANYTHING on Earth. You’re putting forth an absurd notion.
TalkingHead
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Somebody needs to tell Iger it’s not too late to sell Animal Kingdom to Margaritaville.
This is his "speciality".
That, and creating falsehoods about annual passholders.