2017 Epcot Food and Wine Festival beginning August 31st

Frankie The Beer

Well-Known Member
Excuse me, I didn't realize I was speaking to the omnipresent.

Doesn't make sense? Let me ask you a question. Have you ever been to an event where thousands of people were drinking. I'm assuming you have. If people vomiting at such an event "doesn't make sense" to you, then you must really live life with blinders. Statistics aren't on your side on this one.

If the crowds were truly, (truly great word), truly as terrible as some people on this forum like to make them out to be during Food and Wine, the media would be all over it. I think in the past handful of years I have read only one report on the Sentinel. In my best Ricky Ricardo, "Someone lyin' Lucy".
 

BuddyThomas

Well-Known Member
To everyone calling me a LIAR
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LOL. On a lighter note, I'm jealous that you get Trans-Siberian Orchestra in 18 days. They are a lot of fun. Enjoy. And now I have to go post more pictures of me drinking out of thimble sized cups in my trip report. ;)
 
DH and I make the hop across the pond for Food & Wine every year - we love it! Part of the fun is people watching - especially the College Kids who mistakenly believe they can handle their booze! Yes, I have seen people drunk, but never out of hand. I also think that Security do a pretty good job patrolling around World Showcase and speaking to anybody who is behaving inappropriately.

If you hate the crowds, avoid the weekend and go early - it opens at 11am! Then you can move elsewhere before the hoards hit the park late afternoon.

Eating and drinking may not be your cup of tea, but don't condemn those who do enjoy it!

We get frustrated that we are not trusted to enjoy a beer at Magic Kingdom - and it is becoming almost impossible to find a legitimate smoking area! However, we don't complain and would not dream of condemning those who would prefer to ban alcohol and smoking across the whole Magical World - each to their own!

The thing about Disney is that there is something for everybody to enjoy. If you don't like Food & Wine, there are plenty of other options!

Don't kill the enjoyment for the rest of us!!
 
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RSoxNo1

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I would actually argue the opposite. You are the one who would be going out of your way to notice other people, instead of just enjoying your own visit you are fixated on what everyone else is doing.
When people are being obnoxiously drunk you can only ignore them so much before they start to bother you. While one person shouldn't completely ruin your day, I did have to deal with an obnoxious drunk woman in September that did everything she could to ruin Illuminations for me.
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
In practical terms. Are you asking that they stop selling alcoholic beverages completely? Move the Food and Wine Festival? Where would they move it to? It's a festival about fo of and drinks from countries around the world. It seems like the world showcase is a perfect place to have it.

What makes you refer to it as an outside bar and what could Disney do to fix that?

Its a perfect place for it....for a month or month and a half. but the implementation is awful they countinue to take away walking space with more and more stands. its crowded and unsafe. world showcase is a mob scene at night. furthermore i would drop the epcot after 4 ticket option so local non disney "actors" don't clogg it up. so many young groups with no morality these days.
 

epcotWSC

Well-Known Member
F&W is my favorite time of year to go. There's honestly not enough to do in Epcot at this point, so it makes sense to have it start at the beginning of the school year when the summer crowds die down. Hopefully once this Epcot overhaul happens (in like 10 years) they'll shorten it back a bit.
 

NothingRhymeswithOrange

Well-Known Member
As I said, the worst I've seen is a drunk college kid in a kimono cursing around kids. I've never seen anyone throwing up, passed out, etc as some have claimed here. Other then last year where the picture was taken of the drunk guy climbing the Mexico building, there is literally 0 proof that any of these claims are true. F&W is the best time of year in Epcot. Its a ton of fun but I guess you could say its not for everyone. If you don't like it, don't go to Epcot during those couple of months.
 

shipley731

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I went to EPCOT twice in September during food and wine and I didn't see anything that you mentioned. I have gone to food and wine many times and never once have I seen any of the behavior people here are complaining about. My advice would be not to worry about the people around you and fixate on everything they are doing, enjoy yourself and the company you are with.
I generally do ignore them. Although I will admit it's difficult when you have a group of 6 tutu wearing party-goers screaming at the top of their lungs in the enclosed space of The Tutto Gusto Wine Cellar. (Luckily, they left after their round of lemoncello shots.) Again, this incident was in July - not during any sort of festival.

However, I am sick of hearing people imply that the festivals are nothing but drunk fests. My point was you can find groups like this year round.
 

rael ramone

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A few years ago I saw a near altercation at F&W. A woman who was probably 90 lbs soaking wet yelled something at a person of a different racial heritage (who looked like he could have been a strong safety at UCF) and he did not respond kindly back. A person in the woman's party had to physically pick her up, carry her across the path, and physically seat her on a bench.

One of the park rules is to not use profanity or not engage in unsafe, illegal, disruptive, or offensive behavior. Over consumption of adult beverages becomes a problem if the ability to follow this rule is impaired.

Part of the problem is the lack of a true 'Grown Up playground' that was Pleasure Island - which came with Grown Up hours (till 2am) and a Grown Up admission policy (nobody under 18 w/o parent or guardian).
 

rael ramone

Well-Known Member
And my thoughts on the Food part of the Food & Wine equation:

Cut quality. Cut quantity. Cut presentation. And jack the prices up.

This could be said about a lot of things in the swamps, but in my experience the worst place for this has been the F&W food samples.

Haven't been there in 2 years, but based on my experiences there:

Food, that by description listed would have been no question good (if not outright great) in the past (and would be worth recreating at home - and there would be a new cookbook every year), would at least half the time be 'two bites at most and then into the trash'. Sauces reduced to dime sized dabs. Nice looking themed paper plates replaced with cardboard. All with a huge jump (and jump, and jump) in prices... Imagine Panera Bread swapping out their sandwich classics like the Sierra Turkey and replacing them with vending machine sandwiches, and tripling the price...

And at least one year, they actually SOLD a tray for you to carry your food.
 

radiohost

Well-Known Member
Let's be honest...

If this was your company, you would do the same thing.

We go every Labor Day weekend for the week. I have never understood why they haven't kicked off this festival the weekend of Labor Day.
 

rangerbob

Well-Known Member
As I said, the worst I've seen is a drunk college kid in a kimono cursing around kids. I've never seen anyone throwing up, passed out, etc as some have claimed here. Other then last year where the picture was taken of the drunk guy climbing the Mexico building, there is literally 0 proof that any of these claims are true. F&W is the best time of year in Epcot. Its a ton of fun but I guess you could say its not for everyone. If you don't like it, don't go to Epcot during those couple of months.
How can you say that there is 0 proof that things don't happen? Not everybody will pull out a phone and take a video just because they see something happening. I've seen the drunk puking over the railing going into Mexico. I've had the drunk fall into me and almost do a face plant. Just because there isn't a video of it doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just isn't on the internet for everybody to see. I'm sure there is a lot of documented cases at Disney about things that happens during the Food and Drunk festival but we don't see. I remember a couple years ago somebody trying to jump the railing at the bridge into the water at Mexico.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
I remember a couple years ago somebody trying to jump the railing at the bridge into the water at Mexico.
Cool.

One time I was there in April (before Flower and Garden got food booths) and I saw a wasted dude yelling at his female companion. I was laughing with my wife and he challenged me to a fight, because he thought I was laughing at him. He was belligerently drunk, obnoxious, a problem.

Blame Food and Wine?
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
Cool.

One time I was there in April (before Flower and Garden got food booths) and I saw a wasted dude yelling at his female companion. I was laughing with my wife and he challenged me to a fight, because he thought I was laughing at him. He was belligerently drunk, obnoxious, a problem.

Blame Food and Wine?
Yes. And Shanghai. And Iger. And ESPN. And stock buybacks.
 

Wendy Pleakley

Well-Known Member
How can you say that there is 0 proof that things don't happen? Not everybody will pull out a phone and take a video just because they see something happening.

Epcot has to be one of the most photographed and video recorded locations on the planet.

You would think there would be at least a few documented examples of the issues people cite.

The fact that there don't seem to be suggests that the problems people complain about are few and far between.

I'm not saying there are zero incidents of boorish behavior at Food & Wine festival, but there's no supporting evidence for claims that it's a steady stream of obnoxious behavior and wasted patrons.
 

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