20 assorted thoughts after my first trip to Left Disney.

Bairstow

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Original Poster
So after 30 odd years of visiting WDW I finally made it out to California to see Disneyland. I'm not much one for trip reports, but I do have a lot of observations I wanted to share.

1. It really struck me how small both of these parks are. People go on and on about how much smaller Disneyland is than the Magic Kingdom, but it doesn't really sink in until you're actually there that everything is really very miniaturized and crammed together. The castle in particular struck me as almost pitifully small compared to Cinderella at Disney World, though in a classic example of Disneyland's willingness to work with what they have, contains both two versions of the same attraction AND a shop.

2. The lack of size really hurts Disneyland's themeing in noticeable ways in that all the lands are crammed right against each other with no breathing room. Where the Magic Kingdom's various lands are separated by blended areas of sound and themeing, you've got abrupt collisions of theme in both parks, the worst of which being the 3-way juncture at Pirates between Adventureland, Frontierland, and New Orleans Square. Unless you were deep in certain corners of the lands, particularly Toon Town or Tomorrowland, there wasn't a whole lot of immersion. California Adventure does a much better job of this.

3. I wasn't expecting the train ride or the riverboat to be such fully-realized attractions. Neither the grand canyon diorama nor the primeval world get much attention these days, so they were both an almost complete surprise for me, which I loved. Same goes for the super-articulated A100 figure of the Indian chief on the Rivers of America. I can't believe they're letting a Spaceship Earth-quality figure just bake out there in the outdoors, but I guess in California's weather you can get away with it.

4. It was good to see Toon Town before its likely demise at the hands of Yoda and all them.
Place really needed one final coat of paint, though- it was looking very faded and a lot of the little effects in and around Gadget's Go Coaster weren't working. It's a nicer take on what Disney World did with Mickey's Starland and Birthday Land and all that, but it's clearly an area whose time has come and gone.

5. Everyone who says the Disney World version of Pirates pales in comparison to the original is totally right. Holy moly, what a difference all the extra darkness, space, and non-moving scenes add. The skeleton caverns and swaying timber scenes are awesome. I didn't even mind Jack Sparow's stupid Poochy appearances as much since they were spaced out so much more.

6. I regret riding Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey before having rode Indiana Jones and the Forbidden Eye, because Forbidden Eye surely was the world's most technically accomplished attraction experience before Potter. It's just a masterwork, from top to bottom, and Countdown to Extinction is a very, very poor substitute indeed. The central chamber and the way you make multiple passes through it was particularly interesting to see, especially when we went to Knott's Berry Farm the next day and did the Calico Mine Ride, which clearly inspired this one. On the downside, of the three times we rode it, the rolling ball effect only worked once, and only after we were stopped staring at Indy's silent, swinging feet for 2 minutes.

7. Disneyland's Tomorrowland is BUTT. UGLY. I'm excepting the submarine lagoon and the Matterhorn (which was closed) but everything else was just hideously painted, built, and arranged. It's the exact opposite of the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland, which is pretty to look at but has lame attractions. All the Disneyland versions of the rides like Buzz, Autopia, and Space Mountain were clearly superior, but the surrounding area was so terrible-looking that we spent as little time there as possible. This needs fixing in the worst way.

8. Maybe it was just may imagination, but it seemed like the Haunted Mansion omnimover chain was moving way faster than it did last time I saw the Magic Kingdom's. Wish I had timed my ride. I wonder if the omnimover speed is controllable by the cast members? Perhaps the Magic Kingdom's recent capacity problems are due to the ride speed being turned down to low? Curious.
Also, it's too bright in there right now.

9. Overall, the quality of the food at the two Disneyland parks is better way better and more interesting than that at Disney World. We usually struggle to find something interesting to eat at any park that's not EPCOT, but at Disneyland there's almost always something interesting and good available. Lucky Fortune for Korean Beef, Mole chicken at Ranco Del Zucaro, steak gumbo, the weird onion/bbq dog at Award Wieners... It's just better overall. The swordfish I got at Carthay Circle was possibly the best Disney meal I've ever had, though the ice sphere Manhattans I had at the bar downstairs didn't hurt. Honestly the only bad Disney food I had the whole trip was the Hawaiian burger from Trader Sam's, and even then the sweet potato fries that came with it were great.
Oh, and the dill pickle popcorn from the Cozy Cone. Avoid.

10. California Adventure is a really weird park. It feels like a combination of the second-best parts of MGM and Animal Kingdom, though with lamer rides. There are parts of it that really, really work, and a lot of parts that feel through-the-floor cheap. I kind of wish I had seen it when it was REALLY bad.

11. Cars Land was sort of a letdown after all the praise that had been heaped upon it. I don't know whether it was because "Cars" is my least-favorite series of Pixar movies or that I had already seen Diagon Alley in all its glory, but those who say that this is the best themed area in all of Theme Park-dom are out of their minds. To be honest, the aesthetic of intentionally-tacky reminded me a little of Chester and Hester's, though in a good way. Radiator Springs Racers is very, very cool, but it's no Forbidden Journey, or even Indy. Weirdly, I felt like Test Track, what with its "skidding" and slalom sequences are a much better demonstration of what these kinds of ride vehicles are capable of when it comes to simulating a theme park "car". RS Racers' layout was probably designed to be a lot easier on tires, but is consequently a lot less interesting and thrilling. On the whole, I was way more impressed with Grizzly Peak as an area than with Carsland.

12. Grizzly Peak rules. The themeing is really clever, its stores have the coolest merch, and using the Grand Californian as a backdrop is genius. Plus, the rapids are Kali River done right. Overall, the area felt a LOT like a similar "State Park" area at Dollywood, what with all the green-painted plywood. The place just made me happy.

13. I liked Paradise Pier and all of its rides a lot, but 2 things bugged me. First there's no fish in the water. I guess this is because they need it nice and clean to not interfere with the World or Color machinery, but large bodies of water with no fish in them always make me sad. Disneyland didn't have a lot of fish. Or birds, for that matter; just ducks. I guess that's what happens when you DON'T build your park in a swamp.
Second, I don't like Paradise Pier's music. I hated the old track, which seemed to be constantly coming up on streaming Disney radio channels, what with all its calliope takes on Beach Boys music, but the new loop isn't much better. It sounds exactly like Main Street USA music, which is just too boring and familiar. They need something else, though I can't exactly put my finger on what.

14. The Aladdin stage show was nice and all, but if would it have been possible for the Genie to crack some jokes that weren't based on female pop stars? It was like a kid's Broadway musical written by Perez Hilton.

15. World of Color was simply amazing. Ditto for the REAL version of Fantasmic (Holy smokes, that pirate ship fight!). Glad we paid for the dinner packages so that we didn't have to fight for good seats. Disney's gotta stop using the piano version of "Married Life" from UP in their montage shows, though. That song instantly criticals me every time.

16. Why aren't there any good T-shirts specific to the California Adventure park and its logos? Are people ashamed of it or something? I looked for one and couldn't buy it. Overall merch quality was high, though it was lame to see so many items that I had previously seen for sale in Florida.

17. The California version of Tower of Terror is definitely second-rate. Other than the lobby, which is unchanged, everything is worse, and usually too brightly lit. People who go off complaining about how bright the boiler room queue in Florida is have no idea how good they have it.

18. Knott's Berry Farm is an absolute must-do if you're in the area for Disneyland and California Adventure. The place has a lot of really unique coasters, a ton of classic ghost town activities and sights, and 2 positively unique and fascinating dark rides, both of which are built on an epic scale and have clearly influenced Disney's imagineers (Tony Baxter has admitted as much). The place is a real bargain too, if you buy your tickets online. They had possibly the best live talent I've seen in a theme park as well- cowboy villain types who are masters at improv comedy, stunt show performers who can throw a convincing joke and punch, Broadway-caliber singers in the saloon, and two exceedingly unique one-man Native American shows. The only letdown here, besides the confusing layout around Silver Bullet, is the food; we tried the Mrs. Knott's Chicken Dinner Restaurant for the history of the place and as something of a fried chicken connoisseur I can confidently say that this chicken is substandard. Good cabbage though. And boysenberry ice cream. Maybe we just ordered the wrong stuff? Anyway, this place is TOTALLY worth it for a break from Disney.

19. You've also got to see the Pacific Ocean if you make the trip. We spent a day at Huntington Beach and it was a different world out there. While I was kind of disappointing at how "normal" most of Los Angeles and Anaheim looked to me, the sights and people along the Pacific Coast Highway were as uniquely and bizarrely Californian as I could have hoped for. I wish I had had 2 or 3 days to just drive up and down the highway in our rented Mustang. Just unreal, exciting, and splendid.

20. I feel like the biggest difference between Disneyland and Disney World that no one talks about is how different the attitude of the guests around you is at Disneyland. At Disneyland, there are far more locals, teenagers, and people just visiting for the day, rather than families who have saved for 3 years for a 5-day Disney vacation and lose their minds at the drop of a hat when anything goes wrong. Thus, everyone at Disneyland seems far more laid-back and just happier to be there. It rubs off on the cast members too, who aren't necessarily friendly or harder working than their Florida counterparts, but they do seem less forced about it and more casual. It made a big difference in our stay, and was one of the nicest surprises of the trip.
 

Figments Friend

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So after 30 odd years of visiting WDW I finally made it out to California to see Disneyland. I'm not much one for trip reports, but I do have a lot of observations I wanted to share.

1. It really struck me how small both of these parks are. People go on and on about how much smaller Disneyland is than the Magic Kingdom, but it doesn't really sink in until you're actually there that everything is really very miniaturized and crammed together. The castle in particular struck me as almost pitifully small compared to Cinderella at Disney World, though in a classic example of Disneyland's willingness to work with what they have, contains both two versions of the same attraction AND a shop.

2. The lack of size really hurts Disneyland's themeing in noticeable ways in that all the lands are crammed right against each other with no breathing room. Where the Magic Kingdom's various lands are separated by blended areas of sound and themeing, you've got abrupt collisions of theme in both parks, the worst of which being the 3-way juncture at Pirates between Adventureland, Frontierland, and New Orleans Square. Unless you were deep in certain corners of the lands, particularly Toon Town or Tomorrowland, there wasn't a whole lot of immersion. California Adventure does a much better job of this.

3. I wasn't expecting the train ride or the riverboat to be such fully-realized attractions. Neither the grand canyon diorama nor the primeval world get much attention these days, so they were both an almost complete surprise for me, which I loved. Same goes for the super-articulated A100 figure of the Indian chief on the Rivers of America. I can't believe they're letting a Spaceship Earth-quality figure just bake out there in the outdoors, but I guess in California's weather you can get away with it.

4. It was good to see Toon Town before its likely demise at the hands of Yoda and all them.
Place really needed one final coat of paint, though- it was looking very faded and a lot of the little effects in and around Gadget's Go Coaster weren't working. It's a nicer take on what Disney World did with Mickey's Starland and Birthday Land and all that, but it's clearly an area whose time has come and gone.

5. Everyone who says the Disney World version of Pirates pales in comparison to the original is totally right. Holy moly, what a difference all the extra darkness, space, and non-moving scenes add. The skeleton caverns and swaying timber scenes are awesome. I didn't even mind Jack Sparow's stupid Poochy appearances as much since they were spaced out so much more.

6. I regret riding Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey before having rode Indiana Jones and the Forbidden Eye, because Forbidden Eye surely was the world's most technically accomplished attraction experience before Potter. It's just a masterwork, from top to bottom, and Countdown to Extinction is a very, very poor substitute indeed. The central chamber and the way you make multiple passes through it was particularly interesting to see, especially when we went to Knott's Berry Farm the next day and did the Calico Mine Ride, which clearly inspired this one. On the downside, of the three times we rode it, the rolling ball effect only worked once, and only after we were stopped staring at Indy's silent, swinging feet for 2 minutes.

7. Disneyland's Tomorrowland is BUTT. UGLY. I'm excepting the submarine lagoon and the Matterhorn (which was closed) but everything else was just hideously painted, built, and arranged. It's the exact opposite of the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland, which is pretty to look at but has lame attractions. All the Disneyland versions of the rides like Buzz, Autopia, and Space Mountain were clearly superior, but the surrounding area was so terrible-looking that we spent as little time there as possible. This needs fixing in the worst way.

8. Maybe it was just may imagination, but it seemed like the Haunted Mansion omnimover chain was moving way faster than it did last time I saw the Magic Kingdom's. Wish I had timed my ride. I wonder if the omnimover speed is controllable by the cast members? Perhaps the Magic Kingdom's recent capacity problems are due to the ride speed being turned down to low? Curious.
Also, it's too bright in there right now.

9. Overall, the quality of the food at the two Disneyland parks is better way better and more interesting than that at Disney World. We usually struggle to find something interesting to eat at any park that's not EPCOT, but at Disneyland there's almost always something interesting and good available. Lucky Fortune for Korean Beef, Mole chicken at Ranco Del Zucaro, steak gumbo, the weird onion/bbq dog at Award Wieners... It's just better overall. The swordfish I got at Carthay Circle was possibly the best Disney meal I've ever had, though the ice sphere Manhattans I had at the bar downstairs didn't hurt. Honestly the only bad Disney food I had the whole trip was the Hawaiian burger from Trader Sam's, and even then the sweet potato fries that came with it were great.
Oh, and the dill pickle popcorn from the Cozy Cone. Avoid.

10. California Adventure is a really weird park. It feels like a combination of the second-best parts of MGM and Animal Kingdom, though with lamer rides. There are parts of it that really, really work, and a lot of parts that feel through-the-floor cheap. I kind of wish I had seen it when it was REALLY bad.

11. Cars Land was sort of a letdown after all the praise that had been heaped upon it. I don't know whether it was because "Cars" is my least-favorite series of Pixar movies or that I had already seen Diagon Alley in all its glory, but those who say that this is the best themed area in all of Theme Park-dom are out of their minds. To be honest, the aesthetic of intentionally-tacky reminded me a little of Chester and Hester's, though in a good way. Radiator Springs Racers is very, very cool, but it's no Forbidden Journey, or even Indy. Weirdly, I felt like Test Track, what with its "skidding" and slalom sequences are a much better demonstration of what these kinds of ride vehicles are capable of when it comes to simulating a theme park "car". RS Racers' layout was probably designed to be a lot easier on tires, but is consequently a lot less interesting and thrilling. On the whole, I was way more impressed with Grizzly Peak as an area than with Carsland.

12. Grizzly Peak rules. The themeing is really clever, its stores have the coolest merch, and using the Grand Californian as a backdrop is genius. Plus, the rapids are Kali River done right. Overall, the area felt a LOT like a similar "State Park" area at Dollywood, what with all the green-painted plywood. The place just made me happy.

13. I liked Paradise Pier and all of its rides a lot, but 2 things bugged me. First there's no fish in the water. I guess this is because they need it nice and clean to not interfere with the World or Color machinery, but large bodies of water with no fish in them always make me sad. Disneyland didn't have a lot of fish. Or birds, for that matter; just ducks. I guess that's what happens when you DON'T build your park in a swamp.
Second, I don't like Paradise Pier's music. I hated the old track, which seemed to be constantly coming up on streaming Disney radio channels, what with all its calliope takes on Beach Boys music, but the new loop isn't much better. It sounds exactly like Main Street USA music, which is just too boring and familiar. They need something else, though I can't exactly put my finger on what.

14. The Aladdin stage show was nice and all, but if would it have been possible for the Genie to crack some jokes that weren't based on female pop stars? It was like a kid's Broadway musical written by Perez Hilton.

15. World of Color was simply amazing. Ditto for the REAL version of Fantasmic (Holy smokes, that pirate ship fight!). Glad we paid for the dinner packages so that we didn't have to fight for good seats. Disney's gotta stop using the piano version of "Married Life" from UP in their montage shows, though. That song instantly criticals me every time.

16. Why aren't there any good T-shirts specific to the California Adventure park and its logos? Are people ashamed of it or something? I looked for one and couldn't buy it. Overall merch quality was high, though it was lame to see so many items that I had previously seen for sale in Florida.

17. The California version of Tower of Terror is definitely second-rate. Other than the lobby, which is unchanged, everything is worse, and usually too brightly lit. People who go off complaining about how bright the boiler room queue in Florida is have no idea how good they have it.

18. Knott's Berry Farm is an absolute must-do if you're in the area for Disneyland and California Adventure. The place has a lot of really unique coasters, a ton of classic ghost town activities and sights, and 2 positively unique and fascinating dark rides, both of which are built on an epic scale and have clearly influenced Disney's imagineers (Tony Baxter has admitted as much). The place is a real bargain too, if you buy your tickets online. They had possibly the best live talent I've seen in a theme park as well- cowboy villain types who are masters at improv comedy, stunt show performers who can throw a convincing joke and punch, Broadway-caliber singers in the saloon, and two exceedingly unique one-man Native American shows. The only letdown here, besides the confusing layout around Silver Bullet, is the food; we tried the Mrs. Knott's Chicken Dinner Restaurant for the history of the place and as something of a fried chicken connoisseur I can confidently say that this chicken is substandard. Good cabbage though. And boysenberry ice cream. Maybe we just ordered the wrong stuff? Anyway, this place is TOTALLY worth it for a break from Disney.

19. You've also got to see the Pacific Ocean if you make the trip. We spent a day at Huntington Beach and it was a different world out there. While I was kind of disappointing at how "normal" most of Los Angeles and Anaheim looked to me, the sights and people along the Pacific Coast Highway were as uniquely and bizarrely Californian as I could have hoped for. I wish I had had 2 or 3 days to just drive up and down the highway in our rented Mustang. Just unreal, exciting, and splendid.

20. I feel like the biggest difference between Disneyland and Disney World that no one talks about is how different the attitude of the guests around you is at Disneyland. At Disneyland, there are far more locals, teenagers, and people just visiting for the day, rather than families who have saved for 3 years for a 5-day Disney vacation and lose their minds at the drop of a hat when anything goes wrong. Thus, everyone at Disneyland seems far more laid-back and just happier to be there. It rubs off on the cast members too, who aren't necessarily friendly or harder working than their Florida counterparts, but they do seem less forced about it and more casual. It made a big difference in our stay, and was one of the nicest surprises of the trip.

A nice write up there.
I found your observations and opinions on certain things interesting.

You put a lot of thought and time into sharing your thought Bairstow, so i*ll devote some time to your thoughts for conversation sake -

1. -
The *size issue*, particularly with Sleeping Beauty Castle, is a common point with WDW Vets.
I remember the first time i visited Disneyland after 30+ years of WDW-ness and i noticed it too.
Friends who had visited previously warned me how *small* it was...and how i probably would not like the *cramped feeling* of space there. I ignored them and went to judge for myself.

It WAS surprising at first...but i have come to embrace the differences.
I actually prefer SBCs appearance ( pre- 60th decor, mind you..) to Cinderella Castle now.
Something about the quaintness, charm, colors, history, and the fact you can climb up into it and explore it*s interior hallways have a lot of appeal to me.
I look at Cinderella Castle now, and it looks like a stretched out version of SBC.

Part of the appeal of Disneyland, to me anyway, is what they did with the space they had.
They really made, and still try to make it count.
Disneyland still has more Attractions and things to do and see then all four Parks at WDW.
Amazing but true!
Like the old saying goes, *Its not the size of it, but what you do with it, that counts.*




2.-
I find the *lack of space* one of the charming things about Disneyland.
Everything is carefully arranged to fit into the pre-determinded size...and the level of detailing seems bumped up two notches to make up for it.
I like how everything is so close to each other, and i don*t really get the sense of themed areas *bleeding* into each other.
There are exceptions - some would argue the Astro Orbitor at the entrance to Tomorrowland clashes with other areas in the Hub.
Each there own, as it should be...but i find the transitions between the lands to be just fine and in good taste.
Once in that land, it feels immersive to me.
Adventureland, Frontierland, and Fantasyland in particular.


3. -
I LOVE the dioramas on the DL Railroad too, especially the Primeval World.
Just WOW...but i am a old-school WED fan and really enjoy those original displays from back then.
Stunning stuff...and of course EPCOT fans will recognize some familiar faces with quite a few of those dinosaurs.
I often ride the train around the Park a few times just to view these scenes.
It*s fun to sit back and listen to the Guests* reactions when the train passes the first scene.
The scenes to be seen while traveling on the Rivers of America were reworked and *plussed* a few years back, during one of Tony Baxter*s Park refreshing projects. A lot of wildlife was added, and i believe the Native figures were updated at that time too. A voyage on the Mark Twain is always entertaining.
Disneyland may be *small*, but they sure know how to make what space they have interesting!
;)

4. -
Agree -
ToonTown is in need a a lick of paint on the buildings.
It is fun little area that has some novel surprises...try the doorknobs, doorbells, mailboxes, etc..and see what happens.
The best thing about it has always been the Roger Rabbit themed dark ride, so if ToonTown gets *dipped* off the map at Disneyland, it will be a great shame to lose that Attraction.
The land has lost a lot of it*s energy however, as there is no real *activity* there anymore since Toon characters are rarely roaming and the Jolly Trolly is no longer running.

5. -
DLs *POTC* is indeed awesome.
A masterpiece of themed design.
The two drops are a fun plus, too...not to mention the stunning bayou scene you begin your voyage through.
Did you feel the cannonballs wiz right by your face in the fort battle scene, thanks to a puff of well timed compressed air?
LOVE that effect...it rarely works at WDW.

6. -
I wish you could have experienced *Indiana Jones Adventure* with more of the effects working.
A LOT of things were missing when it re-opened from refurb this past week.
It is a absolutely stunning Attraction, one of my all-time favorites, but it is even MORE incredible when almost all the Show elements are in working order.

7. -
Yeah, Disneyland*s Tomorrowland gets little love from Park fans.
It is a topic that has been discussed for ages now...and just about everyone agrees ( fans, Imagineers, locals ) that the time to re-imagine the area is LONG overdue.
It is in need of a refresh, for sure.

8. -
The speed of the Omnimovers at the Haunted Mansion do seem to change speed, but it is usually for the purpose to slow the train down so handicapped or slower moving Guests can board safely and comfortably.
They do move at a quick pace, but i never really noticed if they moved faster at a clip then WDWs *Mansion*.
Now DLs *Splash Mountain* on the other hand....definitely faster going through then WDWs version, and that goes for the big plunge, too!

9. -
Totally agree regarding the far more interesting and appetizing food selection and dining choices at DLR.
Some GREAT spots there...and so many options both on Property and off.
Rancho has some yummy options, but i would say Cafe Orleans is my favorite.
Some great choices there at Disneyland.


10. -
I*m not a big fan of California Adventure, but it is definitely much better today then when i first experienced it back in May of 2007.
It was a terribly *empty* Park as far as things to do and see, and had a definate *cheap and tacky* feel to it back then.
The recent re-imagining of some areas has helped, but it still has a way to go in my opinion to becoming a true *Disney Theme Park* experience.
Today*s DCA is a encouraging improvement compared to the sloppily executed original incarnation.
The current re-theming of the Condor Flats area ( once a barren, concrete wasteland of nothingness..IMO ) is now being turned into a green and lush extension of the Grizzy Peak area.
A definite improvement in just that small example.
Grizzy River Run is fun and scenic, and a great way to have a shared ride experience with other Guests.


11. -
Sorry to hear you felt a little let down with your experience in CarsLand at DCA.
Sometimes hype can do that...lead to unobtainable expectations, but i find the area to be well done.
It is immersive and visually engaging, and loaded with detailing and fun hidden gems.
That is coming from someone who is not a big Pixar fan, and not a big *Cars* fan, too!
RSRs is a great Attraction...and the dark ride portion is the highlight for me.
I actually prefer the RSRs track to EPCOTs Tes Track, probably because it is less jerky and a much smoother ride.
That is understandable, considering the setting and theme of both of those Attractions.
P.S. - Next time you visit the Cozy Cone, try one of Red*s Apple Freezes.
More then you expect. YUM.


12. -
Agree - The Grizzly Peak area is quite nice.
A relaxing place to go and escape the crowds...those little trails that wind around and over *Grizzly River Run*.
On my most recent visit, i discovered those paths one night and it was a nice surprise.
Never knew they were even there on past visits.
Nice place to cool off too, near the waterfall next to the walkway.
Of course riding GRR is the best way to cool off...you get wetter riding this then front-of-log on *Splash Mountain* !
:)



13. -
Paradise Pier i cannot really relate to, as i tend to block it out.
I spend very little time there, as it just is not the type of experience or setting i want to be in when visiting a Disney Theme Park, especially with so many other far more unique experiences to be had.
I have to also admit the area turns me off because i know how much Walt despised such a setting for Disneyland.
So even just looking at it from across the water is not overly appealing to me.
If i want to be in that setting, in that type of amusement park setting, i will visit them back at home.
When i am at Disneyland, i want to *experience Disneyland*....not a recreation of a seaside boardwalk with off-the-shelf carnival rides.

14. -
Regarding the *Aladdin* musical - Genie changes his jokes daily, and even show to show.
I guess he chose a thread and kept cracking jokes related to just one topic ( female pop stars ) during the particular showing you caught.
He is usually pretty varied and all over the place topic wise.
I recommend seeing another showing if you make it back out there in the future.
It is a fun show and he is usually the highlight.




15. -
Totally agree - DLs version of *Fantasmic* totally blows WDWs lame version out of the water.
Great segments (classic Disney animated films), a unique setting, wonderful use of existing water vessels, and of course, the absolutely spectacular full bodied and fully animated Maleficent Dragon.
Just awesome.
I was not at all a fan of *Fantasmic* until i saw DLs version.
Wonderful way to close out a evening.

World of Color is also impressive, but i find it to be long and watching video projections on sprays of water are not really of interest after a certain point.
The lighting effects, water effects, and fire elements are beautiful to see in person...particularly the intensity of the colors, but i don*t rate it as high because of the length of the show ( seems too long ) and heavy use of Pixar related elements.
Given the choice of the two night time spectacles, i prefer *Fantasmic*.
Wins the decision every time for me.


16.-
Regarding DCA t-shirts -
I had seen a photo of a really nice one about a month ago, being sold over in the t-shirt shop located on Paradise Pier.
I noticed when i visited last week the shop seemed to be closed for refurbishment.
I have heard that the Outfitters shop near the entrance to *Grizzly River Run* has some unique and Park-specific items, too.

I know what you mean regarding finding WDW related merchandise at DL.
There were Animal Kingdom mugs in Adventureland, Figment X-mas ornaments on Buena Vista Street, and Orange Bird plush for sale in Paradise Pier !
A bit surprising to see for these old ex-WDW trained eyes....



17. -
Yes, it is indeed pretty much universally agreed among Park fans that WDWs *Hollywood Studios* has the better version of *Tower of Terror*.
WDWs building even looks better...always found the odd shape of DCAs to be visually jarring, although i understand why it has to have that shape.


18. -
I have yet to have visited Knott*s to date, but would really like to.
Came very close during my most recent visit to Anaheim.
When the Calico Mine Train came out of it*s refurb last year, it gained my attention.
After reading so much about the place over the last couple of years, i have a real interest now in going over there to check it out.
One of these days...just like Universal, which i have yet to have visited on either coast.
( hangs head in shame )


19. -

The next time you visit California, i highly HIGHLY recommend taking a road trip along the Pacific Coast Highway.
I did two road trips with friends a few years ago and it was a amazing experience.
Drove from San Jose to Anaheim, hitting all the places of interest along the way.
Great, memorable experience...and made me fall in love with what California has to offer.
The natural beauty of just the scenery around you of the rugged coastline will take your breath away.
Travel, and the things you experience doing it, does indeed broaden the mind.
The PCH is a great spot to do just that.
:)

20. -
Absolutely and totally agree - this is one of a few reasons why i no longer visit WDW.
The vibe and overall environment at DL is just so much more relaxing, and the people visiting reflect that.
It is one of the striking differences between the two properties and one i noticed right away when i started visiting 8 years ago.
DL Guests for the most part know how to behave, and how to take it all in at a easy pace.
Completely different scene and vibe when compared to WDW.

I can only image how much more chaotic it must be at WDW now, with FP+ and all.
Way too stressful..way too much planning months in advance.
At DL, you can walk through the gates with nothing planned in advance and still do pretty much all you want to.
I love that about Disneyland.

At Disneyland, you are embraced as a *Guest* and treated as such.
At Walt Disney World these days, you are processed as a *Number* and treated as such.

Guess which Park i would rather visit now....

;)
 
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George Lucas on a Bench

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I prefer the size of DL. DCA has more wide open spaces that remind me of the WDW parks, and those are the weakest areas in DLR for me. I've grown to really dislike the huge open areas at WDW. I mean, after a day of walking those parks, I feel like I need to be bedridden for 2 weeks. WDW wastes so much space for no apparent reason. Bigger does not = better. DL has some problem areas, mostly due to nighttime entertainment, but it is otherwise the perfect Disney park for me.

I actually completely disagree about the intersection of Frontierland, Adventureland and New Orleans Square. For me, that's one of the coolest areas in DL.
 

dweezil78

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All great points -- though I probably would have argued that IOA's Spiderman ride was the top contender until Harry Potter came along (which I still haven't experienced!)

Indy is great for sure, but its themeing and tone is a bit schizophrenic IMO -- seemingly bouncing around between high-end realistic to low-end carnival-like effects. Always has bothered me because the good parts are SO good.
 

Sage of Time

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Great write up. We share a lot of the same thoughts on Disneyland.

I will say that the size and scale of Disneyland is a plus, for me. I love WDW and how grand it is, but I really was taken with the charm and organic qualities of Disneyland's 'vintage' feel.

Also, yes, you should have driven around Cali and the coast. On my trip, we made it up to SanFran and got to see some of the state outside of LA. It's a lovely place, especially for an Floridian who is used to "FLAT", "SWAMP", and "HUMID". :)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Other fun things... Outdoor queues everywhere in dl...

Roaming live entertainment in dl...

The expanse of areas like the ranch area etc that you are just not used to in the mk

And yes, dl fans know their salvaged TL from the tl98 disaster is the weakest part of the park

Sounds like you got to experience much of the place
 

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