Pre-Trip 2 Broke Guys (now with Table of Contents!)

Important note: First post edited 7/13/17 to make this odyssey easier to follow!

The reason is I started this pre-trip report over a year ago to help plan our most important trip ever (so far) our 10 year wedding anniversary trip.

However, we have AP's, and we took many short "side-trips" along the way. Rather than creating so many Trip Report threads and looking like a total egomaniac, I just added those mini-TR's into this same thread.

People have said it was hard to follow (I can see that.) Someone suggested putting a "table of contents" in the beginning. So that's what I'm doing. Then you can skip to the pages with the other trip reports, or just read the ones pertaining to "the big one" coming up in early September, 2017.

I will post that trip report separately when it finally happens, but will of course link to it here.

Speaking of linking here, here's a little background. This old post details our vow renewals a few years ago, for a very specific reason. If you haven't read my other trip reports or interacted with me very much on the boards, it kind of sets the stage for what's to come. Here's that link:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...orporate-disney-into-your-vow-renewal.903761/

What follows is the original first post (from 2/11/16) of this long, long thread. At the end of it, I'll put the table of contents to guide you through the rest of the thread.

I am sitting here in a hotel in Tampa, just an hour away from "home." And I'm thinking about it LOL. Oh, am I thinking about it.

When I'm "home home" - in Fort Lauderdale, I never have time to do more than some quick posts because I am always busy with work.

This is going to be a long-@ss pre-trip report.

Not necessarily this first post, but the report as a whole - by necessity, since the trip isn't until early September 2017. And I know I can use some help and advice in putting this all together - it's a very special trip - and have already begun organizing my thoughts based on discussions on this forum.

The basic premise is this: We are going to spend our 10-year wedding anniversary celebration at WDW, with the centerpiece of that trip to be the biggest dinner we can afford at Victoria & Albert's (hopefully the chef's table.) One of the things we enjoy most about Disney in our forties are the amazing meals at places like the Flying Fish Cafe and the Yachtsman's Steakhouse. I expect this meal will be at least as mind-blowing, but probably more.

The catch is - it costs a freaking fortune (at least to us.) I'm estimating something like $600 to $800 when all is said and done(?) And there is no way I could justify spending that much money on one meal.

Except...we have the Disney Chase Visa card, and have come to rely on this for our last several trips. This has opened doors to new experiences that we couldn't afford before. Instead of getting a 4-day ticket, we started getting AP's. Instead of staying off property, we started staying at Disney Moderates. And loved it!

And - we have a year off (sort of) to save up for this magical trip and important celebration. For the last several years, we've been getting the Florida Resident Weekday Select Annual Pass every other year, never two years in a row. I think it's good to go away and miss it for awhile, especially with all the work being done. Stay away for a year and come back to lots of little surprises. (Like those metal detectors! Ha!) They're fine. Anyway, that's the responsible side of me to say we shouldn't spend that much money every year. (We really shouldn't.)

But the advantage of that in this case is to amass Disney Chase Visa card points for months on end (sort of.) We used up all the rest of our points on our last short trip in January of 2016. But then at the end of the month, we earned more money. It's just sitting there...LOL.

Well, I made a deal with myself - if I can save up that $700 or $800 just in Chase points, then I can justify booking that meal at Victoria & Albert's. So that is the first goal. I know somebody will tell me when is the first day I can book it, and I will make a note on my phone so I don't forget LOL.

Based on January rewards being $146.50, I'm thinking this should be cake. (Mmm...cake...)

I'm not saving up for this September, but next September 2017. Total cake, right?!

Then we have to figure out where to stay. I'd like it to be our first Deluxe (possibly on the special floor with the extra goodies) and probably our first DVC rental. DVC Upside - real cost is less. Downside - can't pay for it with Disney Chase dollars LOL. That is funny, but it is a real consideration.

There's the obvious choice - to stay in the Grand Floridian to be where Victoria & Albert's is.

I don't know if that would be my favorite place in general.

I think my favorite place might be the Polynesian - I like the food & the vibe - and the walking into MK. I think that's a must on this trip - have to be able to walk to somewhere. That would include all of the Boardwalk area properties, which are fine with me as well.

Or AK with the Savannah view.

Then there's the corny and sentimental way - 10 years ago, our honeymoon was to Key West. They have a Key West DVC hotel. We love Olivia's. Somehow it doesn't seem big deal enough or have something special like a footpath to MK lol.

At the very least, a monorail resort, even if not walking distance, would be preferred.

Then we have to figure out whether or not to bring the dog or leave her home, drive or fly, diet for 6 months for the pictures LOL. Maybe this one and only trip would be worth memory maker?

I want to really blow it out - something we will never forget. Go for the upgrades. Pick the right tour or tours. So much to discuss!!

I will end each post in this saga like the parodied "2 Broke Girls" TV show, with the dollar amount of whatever they have left or have made at the end of the show, so you can see where they are in their goal.

So for example, tonight's would be:

$146.50

I'll add in any WDW Gift Cards I might buy or receive in the next year as part of what's saved up for that trip. My free BJ's trial period just expired, so I won't be getting any discounted GC's from them.

Now - the potential issue: there is no way we are not going to go to Disney in some way until September of 2017. We are toying with skipping our usual January or April trip in order to go full-on crazy in September.

But we are also toying with things like my dilemma as I sit here in this hotel with all this time to type. We're less than an hour away. I told this story in more detail at the end of my last trip report thread, so I'll just make it very short: Brian is working in Tampa from the end of January until the middle of February (over three weeks.) Yesterday I packed up our pup and drove up to visit, with our Valentine's Day gifts in tow (mostly specialty sugar-free chocolate dipped pretzels potato chips, oreos, plus peppermint bark, etc. We know we won't see each other for Valentine's Day, so basically tomorrow is it, unless I stay until Saturday morning.

Since no WDW trip was planned, I did not bring either my Tables In Wonderland card, or my Chase rewards gift card. But I called, and confirmed I could go to Guest Services and get another gift card (which of course can be loaded automatically.) There's a nice lunch reservation open. There's a spot for the pup at Best Friends Pet Care for 1/2 day care.

On the one hand - this would be something like a 45 minute to 1 hour drive for Brian from 12:30 to 1:30 to go to a special Disney lunch at 1:50, hang out for a bit, and then drive back 45 minutes to an hour to go to work by 4PM until 4AM. (I would have my own car, spend more money buying Disney records for my record store after lunch, go pick up the dog, and drive home to Fort Lauderdale.)

The other option is to drop the pup off at Petco in Tampa for a shampoo, and then hurry to whatever local restaurant is near that Petco, and meh.

Who would ever forget picking up and driving to WDW just for lunch for Valentine's Day (early) There's a fun story to remember when we're in our 60's LOL.

But it would already deplete our current total towards our V&A goal:

$146.50

OK, that was the first post of this whole thing. Now here comes the table of contents. Separate trip reports will be listed in bold. Regular stuff won't.

Posts 1-11 planning.
Posts 12-18: "The Blip Report" - a spur of the moment, one day drive over to the Yacht Club for Valentine's Day lunch at Captain's Grille (with dog.)
Posts 19-70 planning.
Posts 71-199 (page 4) pre-trip (back pain) & TR for 3-day quickie in September 2016 for Food & Wine (no dog, meeting Tuvalu, car trouble LOL) (skip it if you're only in for the anniversary trip!)
Posts 200-210 stuff. (starts bottom of page 10)
Posts 211-258-ish (begins page 11) "micro-trip" - had to go back up to get our car, might as well visit the Mouse!
Posts 258-ish to 276 planning.
Posts 277-283 (page 14) Pre-trip for almost Christmas at Saratoga Springs
Posts 284-331 planning, chit-chat, Thanksgiving
Posts 332-380 (page 17) That almost Christmas trip at Saratoga Springs
Posts 381-392 (Page 20) mostly chit-chat
Posts 393-561 (starts on page 20) (Several short trips back and forth since Brian had sporadic work in Orlando - all with dog!) Including Flower & Garden, Tiffins, more Tiffins, Valentine's Day again, RoL, and to confuse things, somwhere around #522 I'm at WDW but also planning the September 2017 trip (it was the 180 day mark for ADR's!)
Posts 562-569 chit chat
Posts 570-605 (page 29) - omg another quickie trip, Paddlefish
Posts 606-614 chit chat
Posts 615-657 (page 31) omg another trip - Wishes at Cali Grill (our last time seeing it)
Posts 658-694 chit chat, Record Store Day, Nashville
Posts 695- serious September planning!!

 
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Tony the Tigger

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Vacation? Vacation??? He lives there!!
(screamed the jealous lunatic) ;)

...which makes it even less vacation-y. Working all day during an unplanned visit and going for a few evening hours is a nice privilege - but a completely different experience from a planned, saved-for vacation with nothing but WDW on the agenda. When you go, you go all out.

I presume there's an eventual "beach effect." People move to south Florida for the beach. Then after three years, they never go again unless company is visiting from out of town. The other night, the thought of the TTC hassle was the deciding factor in not going to MK.

I enjoyed reading about your last night even if you did not enjoy living it! :in pain: :joyfull:

You likely saw the Star Wars fireworks from Olivia's. Or Illuminations. Wishes is too far away and in the opposite direction.

I'm thinking you might be due for another visit to celebrate after Record Day....perhaps in early May? :cautious:

Typically that is a planned thing! This year, I have the Nashville convention around the 15th. If I fly, that's that. If I drive like last time, I'm stopping a night on the way up and back. Most likely solo.

And then thank Gawd Disney has me blocked out from June 2 to late August! No thought required. And presto - it's September!
 

sheriffwoody

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The latest: they want Brian back on Sunday to observe, then Monday to reset, then Tuesday go home.

I'm thinking that's one we could all do together, and I could get more records from that one guy.

So possibly next trip up - 5 days from now. Limited Disneying. But still. Wishes is not over yet!
OH HEY. I'll be there Sunday :D

Also, your last night may have been a bummer for you, but I'm with @Tuvalu, it was entertaining to read about. I promise I would have been clapping for you both at karaoke!
 

Tony the Tigger

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I have less than one hour to decide whether to go or not! I'm driving myself nuts. I have a cold, I'm exhausted. I bought 7000 records Friday night and hauled them across Florida.

Brian is leaving at 11 AM either way. He has to be to work in Orlando by 4 PM.

Best Friends Pet Care Disney has availability for Kylie on Monday, so that did not make my decision any easier.

Have not heard back from the Orlando guy with records who I bought from last time, so that's only a maybe for that to happen again.

Part of me really wants to get a jump on sorting and pricing the stuff I just brought home. I think it's a little bit irresponsible to take a road trip even for 48 hours with two weeks to go before record store day.

But a lot of the stuff I can do home, I can do there – my ordering, my ad design, get a haircut, etc. LOL.

Driving myself bonkers.

Most likely the only Disney aspect would be Magic Kingdom on Monday night. We're driving up today, we're leaving Tuesday morning. If I go.
 

21stamps

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Paddlefish!

The intent was to go to the rooftop lounge for small plates. Naturally, the lounge was closed. Not expecting a good answer, I asked about a table. They took my name, and before I could even sit with the roughly 30 people waiting before us, they called my name and we were seated! Sweet! They said it's easy for a party of two.

I could have ordered Captain Handsome to drinkView attachment 196328

...but he was sitting across the table from me. So I went with the Mad About Saffron Martini
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...mainly for the Elderflower. I had Elderflower on the brain because we almost went to Art Smith's and I wanted to try a bourbon/Elderflower drink there.

It was good, but kinda sweet.

We ordered 3 small plates to start. (They weren't so small!) Our server was very enthusiastic and fun, which is especially nice considering we weren't going full-on dinner.

We thought after the first orders, we'd go for one or two more or split an entree (I hadn't eaten all day!!) But we were full!

Everything on that menu sounded interesting - and I don't think either of us had heard of 80% of the ingredients. For example, we loved the

Point Judith Calamari
Shi****o, carambola, peppadew piri piri

What in God's name do any of those words mean? (other than calamari lol.) Don't know! But fantastic.

A nice portion of Brussels sprouts were very good, but the revelation was:

Crab Fries
Hand-cut potatoes, lump blue crab, Louie dressing
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Holy yummy! That pic was taken after we started digging in, and I thought, "OMG! I have to take a picture of this for the board!"

Plenty of quality lump crab, very fresh - I never had fries like that before. Again, a real nice portion, and we were both full.

The waiter said it would be a sin to not try the octopus - neither of us ever had before - but we said we'd have to do it next time when we come back for a proper dinner.

Total bill under $60 including my $15 drink and we were stuffed.

Another successful stop at DS!!

The drink menu has me completely sold. I need that Bloody Mary!!!

Glad your meal was a success!
 

MySmallWorldof4

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I have less than one hour to decide whether to go or not! I'm driving myself nuts. I have a cold, I'm exhausted. I bought 7000 records Friday night and hauled them across Florida.

Brian is leaving at 11 AM either way. He has to be to work in Orlando by 4 PM.

Best Friends Pet Care Disney has availability for Kylie on Monday, so that did not make my decision any easier.

Have not heard back from the Orlando guy with records who I bought from last time, so that's only a maybe for that to happen again.

Part of me really wants to get a jump on sorting and pricing the stuff I just brought home. I think it's a little bit irresponsible to take a road trip even for 48 hours with two weeks to go before record store day.

But a lot of the stuff I can do home, I can do there – my ordering, my ad design, get a haircut, etc. LOL.

Driving myself bonkers.

Most likely the only Disney aspect would be Magic Kingdom on Monday night. We're driving up today, we're leaving Tuesday morning. If I go.
If you want some more time to hang out with Brian then go. But he will be working and your only time together will be in the car. It sounds like you really have a lot of work to do, so my adult brain is saying stay home and get your stuff done. But then the giddy kid inside is saying go, go , go! Yeah, no help.;)
 

Tony the Tigger

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If you want some more time to hang out with Brian then go. But he will be working and your only time together will be in the car. It sounds like you really have a lot of work to do, so my adult brain is saying stay home and get your stuff done. But then the giddy kid inside is saying go, go , go! Yeah, no help.;)

Your adult brain and mine are in sync and so are our giddy inner children!

I'm packed. It's all just a matter of deciding at this point.
 

21stamps

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The food was "meh."

We've never had a bad meal before at Olivia's, but we've only ever gone for lunch - appetizers, sandwiches, drinks (of course.)

"Crab-crusted Mahi Mahi served with a tropical Couscous, Avocado, Pico de Gallo, and Mango Butter"

The crab crusted mahi-mahi sounded like a good idea, but it was a brick of fish that was so salty as to make it almost inedible. Now, I know I'm sensitive to salt, and I had this dish first, so I waited to switch plates with Brian, and he said it was way too salty, also.

(I don't think I've ever sent a plate back in my life, unless it was the wrong item completely.)

I've never been a big fan of couscous, but that was the best thing on the plate.

My wine was the best thing on the table.

Kim Crawford Sauvignon Blanc, Marlborough
Crisp, bright notes of lime, gooseberry, and grapefruit lift the palate to a refreshing, clean finish

That was beautiful. Gotta remember that one.

As for the Duval St. Burger:

"topped with Grilled Shrimp, Pepper Jack Cheese, Avocado, and Pico de Gallo on our Pineapple-Coconut Roll"

I don't know why that sounded good to me - probably because I could "cheat" by having a burger, I've never thought to put shrimp on a burger before, and the roll sounded interesting.

The roll wasn't interesting.

The burger was fine. I'm not used to burgers without ketchup or bbq, and either would have been a little odd on this one, but it needed something. Fortunately, Brian ordered the slaw rather than fries on the side, which was the best thing on the plate, and improved the burger when taken in the same bite.

OK, Olivia's. Everyone deserves a "one bad." For what we spent, I was now second guessing myself about places we could have gone, spent a few dollars more, and had a better meal.

Overall, the experience was fine, just not the food.

Side note: just before they called us for our table, I heard the hostess telling someone else you could eat at the bar and order the full menu. I wish she had told us that at 8PM, we would have absolutely done that, and then the rest of this would not have happened.

The tragic part. (OK, I'm being melodramatic.) (Not really.)

The whole night was centered around seeing Wishes. Well, we saw something around 9PM, don't know what it was, don't think it was Wishes, we were still sitting outside at our table at Olivia's.

(sigh.)

OK, let's salvage the night. The choices: go to MK post-wishes, open til 11PM, fight crowds, go on the same few rides we always go on. Or: go to the Swan for some karaoke before we have to pick up Kylie around midnight.

Drinking wins!

In the few times we've been to the Swan for karaoke, it's not that busy, you can sing many times in a short time period, it's full of tourists who love you, and we (and I say this with only modest exaggeration) "take over the room." We get great applause, we take requests, we do duets with strangers. We get asked if we are "ringers" or professional singers. (Yes, I know, consider the source LOL.) We're not Pavarotti but we can pull off a pop song, each of us, equally (although Brian has a better voice, absolutely.)

This place has been good for our egos.

Until tonight!!

You are now entering the Twilight Zone. But instead of an elevator going up and down, you are going up and down on a stage. You are performing your best-loved numbers, but the people who usually love you, have no reaction whatsoever. This is the Black Hole of Swan karaoke. This is...the Black Swan.

I kid you not, it was the TZ. Different karaoke host, different bartender - the bartender for the first time ever said he would not validate our parking unless we ordered food. (Is that new?! It usually ends up being a moot point, but still. Weird.) I think we had two drinks each and it was like $50. My crowns-on-the-rocks were nowhere near as full as they used to be.

One important thing about karaoke (if you take it a little seriously like some people) is to read the room. Know your audience. Sit back and listen first, see if they are clapping for just anyone (a la "She Bangs") or if they appear to appreciate a certain genre over others, etc. Yes, yes, sing what's in your heart, but with a large enough repertoire, you can tailor your picks to make the most people enjoy themselves.

I went first, tipped the KJ (host) and opened with a can't lose warm-up that I never mess up: "At This Moment" by Billy Vera & The Beaters. (Remember, from Family Ties?) It crosses genres. It's nostalgic. It's easy to sing.

I could tell by the second verse, no one was with me except the one weird guy sitting directly in front of me, and the table of women to the right of the stage (whoever sits next to the stage is there to party after their convention and usually not very picky.)

Brian was giving me the "I can't hear you" sign from the bar (on the opposite end of the room.) I was singing loudly. I was holding the mic close (not too close - germs!) and I was checking the mic handle for an on-off switch in case it was off. No dice. It ended. Thank you, both of you in the corner, for clapping. I asked Brian if I stank - he said no, it was my usual but he couldn't hear. OK.

Brian did "Lady" by Kenny Rogers - another crowd pleaser. Never goes wrong. Holds a big note in the middle, tall drink of water belting his heart out. Meh. Where was this crowd?

Oh. This crowd was pretty much all from the same convention. So when five drunk girls got up to do "Little Red Corvette," they were handsomely rewarded with heaps of applause. They were part of the group.

They also skewed younger. OK, we'll try one more round. Maybe two. It's not the first time I've had to win over a crowd. It can be fun.

New direction, younger tune: Matchbox 20. "Push." The opening music usually elicits a positive response. Nope. Crap. They can't hear me again. Some guy came up during the performance and adjusted something on the controls which we think was designed to help that, but it didn't. So weird! (Where was the host? No clue.) I was yelling the song. And it ended.

Other people did young people music. Didn't work. Random stuff was connecting. I told Brian his best bet was one of two fun favorites he does really well: Runaround Sue or Brown Eyed Girl. He has such a throwback 50's white boy voice with a hint of Irish, and those work well. Especially the latter, when he gets to the end, he changes the lyrics to "cross-eyed girl," "green-eyed squirrel," etc. (Sorry if I've mentioned that before?)

No reaction. Nothing! Nada. No love for my husband.

At that point, I wussed out, stopped trying to pick a third disaster, er, song, decided to go get my puppy who loves me and always claps when I sing to her, and was ready to pay an obnoxious $20 parking fee for that 90 minutes of humiliation.

As always, the parking booth was deserted, and we left with no parking fee. (Ah, a silver lining!)

See what I mean? Tragic. Not gonna lie, I was a little bummed and wondering, "have I lost it?" LOL. Oh, no. Wait til they see me in September!!! [Insert Qbert string here.]

That's all folks - picked up the pup, got a salad from Wendy's, went to bed, drove home. Brian's been sick-ish ever since. I think I'm renewing my store lease for 3 more years but don't have the paperwork yet (rent has gone up tremendously.) And I'm spending most waking and some sleeping moments trying to get my store ready for Record Store Day on 4/22. Plus my car broke down twice - first, alternator, now, fuel pump. arrgh!

Can we just skip to September?!?

B has steady work down here starting May 1, and fairly steady work until then, so I don't know if he'll be able to do another mini-Orlando trip, and I don't know if I'll be able to go, anyway. (Not kidding about Record Store Day.) But will keep you posted!

In the meantime, enjoy your own trips! I'm still trying to decide if/which tour for the anniversary trip.

What a lame crowd!!!
 

Tony the Tigger

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Here's Brian pulling out of the driveway…
 

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