“Something major” coming to DHS???

[doctornick]

By current guest trends, there is way too much TS dining across property. I can't see them adding another at DHS without shifting capacity elsewhere. Can't imagine they'd close 50's or Sci Fi, Woody's is brand new, Hollywood & Vine is a cheap buffet that prints money with the characters, Brown Derby is the only "signature" (term used lightly) in the park, sooo... Mama Melrose? Don't think they'd go *that* route without something else happening in that corner of the park. It's nearly a ghost town as it is.

Fair enough. I wish they would have added the table service to GE instead of TSL and had used the Roundup rodeo footprint for an (indoor) attraction instead. Would have been a better balance for the park.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

Fair enough. I wish they would have added the table service to GE instead of TSL and had used the Roundup rodeo footprint for an (indoor) attraction instead. Would have been a better balance for the park.

When was the last time any of the parks had someone guiding a long-term vision? Rohde kept AK mostly in-check, but aside from that we're coming up on 2+ decades of rotating "presidents" through with massive attrition of WDI. They've boxed themselves in time after time by simply not thinking about what could - or would - come after.

 

[doctornick]

Trying to keep this to the DHS thread....

Could someone in the know talk about what each of the backstage buildings are used for in DHS? This is the stuff behind Launch Bay (I know the old Animation offices is attached to that but not sure what exactly those are used for)

 

[castlecake2.0]

Trying to keep this to the DHS thread....

Could someone in the know talk about what each of the backstage buildings are used for in DHS? This is the stuff behind Launch Bay (I know the old Animation offices is attached to that but not sure what exactly those are used for)

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1) water chiller plant, if I had to guess I’d say that probably would be VERY costly to move
2) Main operations for the park ODV
3) entertainment base
4)executive offices
5) feature animation - office and technical workers and some other departments that I shouldn’t name. The building is currently at capacity.

 

[RobbinsDad]

1) water chiller plant, if I had to guess I’d say that probably would be VERY costly to move
2) Main operations for the park ODV
3) entertainment base
4)executive offices
5) feature animation - office and technical workers and some other departments that I shouldn’t name. The building is currently at capacity.

Assuming a demo of launch bay and building 2, a new land could easily be placed behind Sunset Ranch and RNRC.

 

[Bocabear]

I thought they moved Feature Animation back to California since it was shown that producing films from Florida was too costly?...hence why they closed the Walt Disney Animation attraction to begin with...?
but there is still a division there and fully staffed?

 

[James Alucobond]

I thought they moved Feature Animation back to California since it was shown that producing films from Florida was too costly?...hence why they closed the Walt Disney Animation attraction to begin with...?
but there is still a division there and fully staffed?

My understanding is that it's no longer actual feature animation staff. It's other staff utilizing the former animation office space to capacity.

 

[Bocabear]

Ah that makes sense... They could move them all to the Galactic Star Cruiser..... or actually build some new office space...that is not in the theme park boundaries.....

 

[ToTBellHop]

My understanding is that it's no longer actual feature animation staff. It's other staff utilizing the former animation office space to capacity.

It would not be hard to remove that building and move those people to offices built elsewhere.

 

[castlecake2.0]

It would not be hard to remove that building and move those people to offices built elsewhere.

Correct, most of the people working there could work elsewhere, but something would need to be built or bought,Disney has an office shortage in central Florida

 

[ToTBellHop]

Correct, most of the people working there could work elsewhere, but something would need to be built or bought,Disney has an office shortage in central Florida

Build cubicles in Stitch’s Great Escape and Wonders of Life.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Build cubicles in Stitch’s Great Escape and Wonders of Life.

Set up offices in all the resort rooms Disney keeps taking off the market to make their occupancy look good. I hear there are literally hundreds of them removed each quarter. In fact, start counting them as booked!!

They can start with the Galactic Cruiser.

 

[doctornick]

1) water chiller plant, if I had to guess I’d say that probably would be VERY costly to move
2) Main operations for the park ODV
3) entertainment base
4)executive offices
5) feature animation - office and technical workers and some other departments that I shouldn’t name. The building is currently at capacity.

Okay, that jives with most of what I've suspected. So, the way I see it....

Building 1 probably will stay as it is needed for park functioning and trying to put its use somewhere else would be very expensive and disruptive.

#2 & 3 are needed for the park somewhere but not specifically at those locations. So, developing a new building for those use and using the footprints for guest purposes is realistic. I suggested, for example, putting a new building(s) on the far side of World Drive and having a walkway over the road to get into the park would be a reasonable solution. Also, could consider putting a building south of GE/Echo lake in the current parking between the park and the Starcruiser (I don't like this as much as it might limit any footprint if/when the Echo Lake area is repurposed for future expansion).

#4 & 5 sound like things that don't have to be at the park. Sure, could be kept there if needed with anything else that gets moved, but this just speaks to getting some office space elsewhere in the general vicinity.

If you move most/all of this backstage stuff, you can also remove the parking deck (south of #3/4) as then parking could be placed next to wherever the new buildings are.

If you free up #2/3/4/5 and the parking deck that is a ton of space that could be used to expand the park. I'm not saying they need to use all of it, but it should provide flexibility put in a great expansion and not be that constrained by the footprint.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Set up offices in all the resort rooms Disney keeps taking off the market to make their occupancy look good. I hear there are literally hundreds of them removed each quarter. In fact, start counting them as booked!!

They can start with the Galactic Cruiser.

They can get all of the desk-job CMs into one Stitch theater if they set ’em up like airlines are planning.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Okay, that jives with most of what I've suspected. So, the way I see it....

Building 1 probably will stay as it is needed for park functioning and trying to put its use somewhere else would be very expensive and disruptive.

#2 & 3 are needed for the park somewhere but not specifically at those locations. So, developing a new building for those use and using the footprints for guest purposes is realistic. I suggested, for example, putting a new building(s) on the far side of World Drive and having a walkway over the road to get into the park would be a reasonable solution. Also, could consider putting a building south of GE/Echo lake in the current parking between the park and the Starcruiser (I don't like this as much as it might limit any footprint if/when the Echo Lake area is repurposed for future expansion).

#4 & 5 sound like things that don't have to be at the park. Sure, could be kept there if needed with anything else that gets moved, but this just speaks to getting some office space elsewhere in the general vicinity.

If you move most/all of this backstage stuff, you can also remove the parking deck (south of #3/4) as then parking could be placed next to wherever the new buildings are.

If you free up #2/3/4/5 and the parking deck that is a ton of space that could be used to expand the park. I'm not saying they need to use all of it, but it should provide flexibility put in a great expansion and not be that constrained by the footprint.

That could all work though last I heard Jeff V is anyti office demolition. They could also potentially split the building in half in the atrium and demo the park side of the building.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

That could all work though last I heard Jeff V is anyti office demolition. They could also potentially split the building in half in the atrium and demo the park side of the building.

This might be the way. A shaved down office building and relocated ODV base and backstage parking would give them the room to do just about whatever they wanted.

 

[SpectroBro]

1) water chiller plant, if I had to guess I’d say that probably would be VERY costly to move
2) Main operations for the park ODV
3) entertainment base
4)executive offices
5) feature animation - office and technical workers and some other departments that I shouldn’t name. The building is currently at capacity.

Entertainment base is actually over behind Indy in what used to be the original cast services building.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Entertainment base is actually over behind Indy in what used to be the original cast services building.

Gotcha, maybe fireworks/technician base to be more specific? That’s who I always see going in and out of there.

 

[fgmnt]

Fair enough. I wish they would have added the table service to GE instead of TSL and had used the Roundup rodeo footprint for an (indoor) attraction instead. Would have been a better balance for the park.

If whatever comes next in DHS necessitates the removal of Disney Jr, I have to imagine that the attached Brown Derby could go as well.

I don’t think it would manifest in a signature table service experience in SWGE because that seems way too proactive and creative.

 

[CJR]

If whatever comes next in DHS necessitates the removal of Disney Jr, I have to imagine that the attached Brown Derby could go as well.

I don’t think it would manifest in a signature table service experience in SWGE because that seems way too proactive and creative.

I don't think it will, assuming TLM and One Man's Dream stay, that should be able to stay too. If they did need to make changes, they could do a Disney Jr something in the theater where the Mickey short is currently played.