News ‘Rivers of Light: We Are One’ coming to Disney’s Animal Kingdom summer 2019

Disney Analyst

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Change the rear screen technology. The Fantasmic mist screen tech took a long time to perfect and with good reason. Evenly distributed water surface. You can’t aim two fire hoses (for want of a better word) into a void and expect the same result.

Until this happens the show is fundamentally flawed. You can’t attempt to tell a story - any story - if there’s no guarantee you will be able to actually tell the story. Let alone the other mistakes.

That or have an extended hose over the lagoon that you theme somehow and then create a mist wall or something...

And as another user said, the issue with the show is playing of its cards all at the beginning... It needs to be built up more, more surprises. Nothing matters until that is fixed.
 

trainplane3

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This is actually a really good recording! I never understood why blogs would just record a nighttime show with just their phone
Even then you can pull of decentish phone recordings as well but they don't try it seems. Most places are quick with shooting photos and videos with their phones and that's it. That's why I like this site and BlogMickey so much, they do quality videos and pictures.

The other site doesn't try. They just want the stuff out there and that's why I don't share their stuff.
 

Unbanshee

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Even then you can pull of decentish phone recordings as well but they don't try it seems. Most places are quick with shooting photos and videos with their phones and that's it. That's why I like this site and BlogMickey so much, they do quality videos and pictures.

The other site doesn't try. They just want the stuff out there and that's why I don't share their stuff.

Agreed! I basically only follow blog mickey and wdwmagic on youtube. Those are always high quality videos
 

Stevek

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I really don’t have a problem with them adding IP if it fits the DAK theme of animals. That being said, the show is still just flawed in many ways. It can be beautiful at times but they probably just need to go all in on IP and deliver whatever message they want using characters. I just don’t think an “esoteric” message is going to relate with tourists.
 

DisneyDebRob

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After viewing the show from blogmickey, put me in the camp of its not that bad. In my opinion, the first version was ok and was worried that IP would take over the show but that didn’t happen. I’m relaxed and mellow when I’m in the AK and feel the show fits a ending of a day at the park. If I wanted a huge wow me show, I’ll head to MK or Epcot to be blown away. Of course I’ll reserve full judgment until seeing it in person.
My two problems with it are the absence of the animals and sounds on the background trees prior to the show starting. That was a great pre show that put you in the mood. And water screens. They just need to many things to go right for them to work. Spray has to be perfect.. the weather and wind must be perfect.. animation on them must be crystal clear. You end up getting a good show one out of every 5 shows or so. From Disneyland to Vegas to Disney world, it’s the same. Until they figure out a better way to do it, it is always a negative.
 

Kman101

Well-Known Member
Honestly, all these nighttime shows that now only work from specific locations that fill up or are hard to get into annoys me.

As nice as the new show at the MK is, you used to be able to watch all the old ones from many points in the park. Sure, not always the best viewing but you could see something going on pretty much the whole time. For kids, especially, it was still a great fireworks show, even if the big shells didn't look like they were going off right over the castle or some of the story was lost.

Fantasyland was actually kind of cool with it seeming to go on all around you.

They did all that work to expand the hub only to throw a show in there that turns all the new added space into an even worse, more uncomfortable, and more dangerous situation now that that's the only place you're really meant to view it from with all the reliance on projection and lower pyro for so much more of the show.

Don't even get me started on the short-lived FastPass viewing area that would have at least helped this situation before they turned it into a private up-charge space.

Same with the Hollywood Studios show (not to mention Fantasmic which somehow doesn't need a stadium at DL) and with what they've done eating away at the shoreline viewing areas over the years in Epcot, I wonder if the only good viewing space going forward with the new show is going to be between Port of Entry and Disney Traders.

I know I got off-track but my point with this show is again with the specific seating.

Why?

If they didn't want to open enough waterfront and create something with at least close to 360 viewing, why put something out there in a place where people walking can see and hear that they're missing something they can't fully watch?

Then again, maybe it's good it hasn't been that much of a hit.

Just find it very frustrating that while attendance continues to go up and crowds continue to get worse due to various factors, that they continue to put out these shows that either exclude people due to capacity in specifically designated spaces or cram people into specific viewing areas, only.

You can still enjoy the MK fireworks from various locations ;) but I understand your point about the projections. I don't need them. I've watched the show from many locations and still enjoy it. YMMV, of course :)

But you are correct in the overall growing problem ...
 

ThatMouse

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You can still enjoy the MK fireworks from various locations ;) but I understand your point about the projections. I don't need them. I've watched the show from many locations and still enjoy it. YMMV, of course :)

But you are correct in the overall growing problem ...

This is why we want a new nighttime parade! Just the fact that the hub gets so crowded it has to close and they force you to walk down single file through Casey's/gift shop?? The the heck! That's a big failure. The HS fireworks is nice that it does not get packed, but strangely has a main projection on the center inside building so you can't see it from the side where it's much less crowded and many times has an open bench to sit on.
 

Magic Feather

Well-Known Member
Thoughts: (Using the Blog Mickey video's timestamps for segment references because they are that blurry)
When going to see this show, do yourself a favor, and show up ~4 min late. Up until "Parade of the Animal Spirits 2.0" starts or 4:23 in the BM video. That entire section is over dependent on the rear water screen and, by far, the show's weakest moment. Cutting it would make me give the show one more point on my mental rating scale (out of ten if curious). This also displays the show creators' greatest weakness: rarely knowing their medium. Admittedly, there are parts of this show that use the RoL equipment ten times better, but the parts where they just want to showcase digital media on the rear water screen show that they still have yet to completely understand.

Then, we get into RoL redux. I will be the first to admit that I think this version of Parade of the Animal Spirits is 10x better. It makes no sense contextually (what part of this show does?), but it makes a much better use of dynamic color changes and geometric projections that do not need clarity to enhance the kinetics. That said, having the dancers back on the boats would further improve this scene. Only nitpick is just having the animals awkwardly recede into the distance without a proper sendoff (ala the original's "spirits leaving the lanterns through the water screen").

I am a large fan of the new lotus color mix, which allows the scene to be more vibrant. I also appreciate the bit where the big lotus shoots water at the other ones to make a fountain begin. The lotus scene was still great, which ed into the highlight of the show: the thunderstorm sequence. This, like everything else had no sequential connection (story? what story?), but was brilliant: the best use of this tech that I have scene. I saw people ducking, think that it was actually beginning to rain. Only nitpick with that sequence was the picture of a real thunderstorm on the boat sail. It felt awkward and out of place. This led into the gorgeous rainbow scene, which similarly used dynamic colors (and just in time for Pride Month too).

From Animal Spirits-Rainbow is, by far, the best show to come out of the RoL theater (coincidentally, that is the one segment with no IP...).

The new We Are One recording (and all of the voiceover work) lacks the intonation and pacing of the original. Just hearing the guy in the safety announcement say "Rivers of Light: We Are One" in 2.5 seconds and a single breath is terrible. This is the same problem that happened with Rosita at the Tropical Hideaway. This is like someone saw the lines and said them within a span of 30 minutes. No effort was put into them. Proper Intonation was disregarded. It was not good.

After the rainbow, we jump into a large montage of animals set to We Are One, which is like the original, but different. The Tiger jumping between screens was done better in the original IMO. This, like the old show, also used too many "live animals" on screens. When a show is based on spiritual animals (then again, I don't have a clue what this show is going for), you should be showing stylized animals and figures, especially on the boat sails. When they showed a real flower blooming as the lotuses were introduced or the peacock that dissipates, it comes across as weird. This problem could really be fixed be putting dancers back on the boats and using "their shadows" once again, but alas.

The tower extending upwards is still slow and awkward, but the new, dynamic color scheme works to liven it up. In the final segment, I am once again confused as to what this show is going for. The new music that kicks off the segment is odd, and would be better suited towards the middle of the show instead of as a lead in to the finale. However, the "fire" segment is brilliant. The projection of flames onto the water cones in the smaller lotuses was a great touch, although, for a fire segment, it felt oddly joyful. Circle of Life should not have been the finale, but whatever. The two reasons why it is a better finale is because the flames' purpose on the tower is clearer (to dance, not wow), more spotlights are used to mark the ending, and everyone knows what the end to the circle of life is.

Overall, we got one of the best things to come out of the RoL tech sandwiched in between blurred visuals, sloppy transitions, poor voice work, and unnecessary shoehorning of IP.
 

MrPromey

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You can still enjoy the MK fireworks from various locations ;) but I understand your point about the projections. I don't need them. I've watched the show from many locations and still enjoy it. YMMV, of course :)

But you are correct in the overall growing problem ...

Well yeah. It's just with the off-the-castle pyro, heavier emphasis on low pyro (which was also used in Wishes to a slightly lesser degree) and the projections/lighting/lasers, now if you don't have a direct line-of-sight, to the castle, the timing on a lot of it feels weird... or you see like a single shell go up and then what feels like a long pause before another one because you don't know what's going on in that span of time that you're not seeing.

Now that I think about it, this is probably how my viewing family feels when we do fireworks at home so I may be overstating the issue a bit by suggesting it's not viewable - just a sharp decline from those other spaces over previous shows.
 
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GhostHost1000

Premium Member
still waiting for a real ending to this show.

lacking so much of a wow moment

they introduce so much of what they have to showcase so early, there isn't much left to be wow'd by
 

GlacierGlacier

Well-Known Member
Thoughts: (Using the Blog Mickey video's timestamps for segment references because they are that blurry)
When going to see this show, do yourself a favor, and show up ~4 min late. Up until "Parade of the Animal Spirits 2.0" starts or 4:23 in the BM video. That entire section is over dependent on the rear water screen and, by far, the show's weakest moment. Cutting it would make me give the show one more point on my mental rating scale (out of ten if curious). This also displays the show creators' greatest weakness: rarely knowing their medium. Admittedly, there are parts of this show that use the RoL equipment ten times better, but the parts where they just want to showcase digital media on the rear water screen show that they still have yet to completely understand.

Then, we get into RoL redux. I will be the first to admit that I think this version of Parade of the Animal Spirits is 10x better. It makes no sense contextually (what part of this show does?), but it makes a much better use of dynamic color changes and geometric projections that do not need clarity to enhance the kinetics. That said, having the dancers back on the boats would further improve this scene. Only nitpick is just having the animals awkwardly recede into the distance without a proper sendoff (ala the original's "spirits leaving the lanterns through the water screen").

I am a large fan of the new lotus color mix, which allows the scene to be more vibrant. I also appreciate the bit where the big lotus shoots water at the other ones to make a fountain begin. The lotus scene was still great, which ed into the highlight of the show: the thunderstorm sequence. This, like everything else had no sequential connection (story? what story?), but was brilliant: the best use of this tech that I have scene. I saw people ducking, think that it was actually beginning to rain. Only nitpick with that sequence was the picture of a real thunderstorm on the boat sail. It felt awkward and out of place. This led into the gorgeous rainbow scene, which similarly used dynamic colors (and just in time for Pride Month too).

From Animal Spirits-Rainbow is, by far, the best show to come out of the RoL theater (coincidentally, that is the one segment with no IP...).

The new We Are One recording (and all of the voiceover work) lacks the intonation and pacing of the original. Just hearing the guy in the safety announcement say "Rivers of Light: We Are One" in 2.5 seconds and a single breath is terrible. This is the same problem that happened with Rosita at the Tropical Hideaway. This is like someone saw the lines and said them within a span of 30 minutes. No effort was put into them. Proper Intonation was disregarded. It was not good.

After the rainbow, we jump into a large montage of animals set to We Are One, which is like the original, but different. The Tiger jumping between screens was done better in the original IMO. This, like the old show, also used too many "live animals" on screens. When a show is based on spiritual animals (then again, I don't have a clue what this show is going for), you should be showing stylized animals and figures, especially on the boat sails. When they showed a real flower blooming as the lotuses were introduced or the peacock that dissipates, it comes across as weird. This problem could really be fixed be putting dancers back on the boats and using "their shadows" once again, but alas.

The tower extending upwards is still slow and awkward, but the new, dynamic color scheme works to liven it up. In the final segment, I am once again confused as to what this show is going for. The new music that kicks off the segment is odd, and would be better suited towards the middle of the show instead of as a lead in to the finale. However, the "fire" segment is brilliant. The projection of flames onto the water cones in the smaller lotuses was a great touch, although, for a fire segment, it felt oddly joyful. Circle of Life should not have been the finale, but whatever. The two reasons why it is a better finale is because the flames' purpose on the tower is clearer (to dance, not wow), more spotlights are used to mark the ending, and everyone knows what the end to the circle of life is.

Overall, we got one of the best things to come out of the RoL tech sandwiched in between blurred visuals, sloppy transitions, poor voice work, and unnecessary shoehorning of IP.
Thoughts on the thunderstorm -> bear neccesities transition?
 

TTA94

Well-Known Member
@Magic Feather Any chance of RoL getting another update or better yet a new show for WDWs 50th? Obviously this new version just debuted and it will probably depend on how well it’s received.
 

Jeremy Geertsema

Well-Known Member
Just some late thoughts...

I was a pretty-big fan of the original (I thought it was unique, suited AK and conveyed itself without IP). Once they took the performers away, it was never the same. The magic of the original was gone - the way the performers interacted with the shadows and the sails was brilliant. I had little desire to watch it since; I was quite frustrated that the shamans got the boot.

This new version seemed inevitable though. Since the performers are gone, I'm glad they altered the sail projections to remove the projections. I wish they wouldn't have included the voiceover, because it is quite rough. The original voice was quite soothing. I also don't fully understand some of the music changes - why did they change the main song/re-record it? The finale, though grander, comes on quite abruptly as well. Overall, it's tolerable lol.
 

culturenthrills

Well-Known Member
I know... he made World of Color like 17 times. Every time they put him as director of a show he would make the same show/parade over and over again. He has talent don't get me wrong but I think this is why it's good to have different directors every now and then. Personally I think HEA is one of the best night time shows Disney has done in about 20 years, partially because it takes risks that Steve's shows rarely did.
Well he did oversee Dreaming Up(best Disney Daytime parade ever) and Celebrate Tokyo Disneyland(best Castle projection show)
 

mickeyfan5534

Well-Known Member
Well he did oversee Dreaming Up(best Disney Daytime parade ever) and Celebrate Tokyo Disneyland(best Castle projection show)
He does a good job when he’s given a lot of freedom. Dreaming Up!, Mythica, Celebrate!, Remember, Magical, Disneyland Forever, Parade of Dreams. I can go on.
 

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