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Yeah, I don’t disagree that the shade situation in the whole land is an epic fail. I still think it’s a design flaw and I agree it would be a lot more difficult and expensive to try to fix it now.

Unless I’m missing something we are talking about a shade structures with some light theming. The original Toy Story Land project had a budget just under $300M and that may not have included the sit down restaurant that opened later. How much could this shade structure cost?

I guess, but we are talking about some shade structures. The cost is a rounding error on the total project cost.

It always comes down to money 💰🤑 This is why I consider it a fail in the design of the land. If they took this into consideration from day 1 it could have been paid for with the initial project budget.

Yeah it probably took a few months at most of actual construction. I believe it was only greenlit after someone from Disney witnessed me nearly sweating to death walking through the land one hot Summer day. If that ladder was there I would have attempted to stand in its shadow. I have no...

Not my math. I was quoting another post but I assume the timeline is for actual construction not time from formal announcement to open. Either way, I actually think given Covid and the lasting issues with labor shortages that 6 years is pretty good for a whole new park on new land. Even so...

The post I was quoting was taking about how Universal just spent 6.5 years building a new park there not including a nearly year long stoppage for Covid. Go back to last century and all of these companies (including Disney) built whole parks in half that time or less. Disney is more extreme...

I think this is more a symptom of the current shortage of workers combined with these large corporations looking to spread capital spend over multiple years. AK was the last full park Disney built in FL, announced in 1995 and opened in 1998. There is zero chance a 5th gate would take just 3...

It would be nearly impossible to build a large coaster on that scale without visible tracks. Disney has shown no appetite for having that. You can see the coaster tracks for Velocicoaster from most other lands in the park. People in this very thread were complaining about seeing a small...

If you go way back to the beginning of the thread (start around page 14) there was some talk about the model showing what looks like 4 lift elevators so they should be able to increase capacity that way. It probably depends if they work any sort of show scene in and how long that takes. It...

I want a shirt that says “I traveled all the way to Florida to see Muppet Vision 3D and all I got was this lousy t-shirt”

Muppet Vision will live on forever…..at least in t-shirts ;)

For sure. They may even continue to sell it over by the Rockin Muppet Coaster area long after MV3D is gone.

So with Tough to be a Bug scheduled to close March 17 and the new Zootopia show scheduled to open Winter 2025 we now know a 4D movie retheme takes less than 9 months to complete. With MV3D scheduled to close in June that means it’s reasonable to assume that if they wanted it they could have the...

There has to be some space back there for this guy :) : I agree that it would take a more substantial rework of the building to convert to a full stage show and I don’t think that is likely. A hybrid show with a movie but some physical actors and/or set pieces is still a possibility though.

That would be interesting. I would hope at a minimum that if they go with a 4D movie it includes some physical set pieces like MV3D did.

My assumption is the only physical building changes are the demo of the Stage 1 store building and the new building for the Door Coaster. The rest of the buildings just get an overlay. Just my assumption based on the layouts and the art. Concept art is not intended to be an exact model so...

They are demoing the Stage 1 Company Store. I am talking about the It’s a Wonderful Shop that is between Mama Melrose and PizzaRizzo. They hosted Santa meet and greets there for during holidays. I assume it will be repurposed for Monster merchandise but they may carve out some meet and greet...

That’s a possibility. Maybe outside to the left or right of the entrance too. There’s also a gift shop space that I think was last used as a Christmas store.