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    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Makes sense. It might work out that a lot of people will pay the $15 a day, so that part will be a price hike - and will work similar to the old system. The add-on Lightning Lane attractions will probably be a much smaller pool since the cost will be higher. So those willing to pay for those...
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    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I see Genie + as a simple price hike. Now I have to pay $15 more per person per day to have access to the FastPass system that used to be included in my park admission. Except now that doesn't include the most in-demand attractions. So I am literally paying significantly more to get less. Am I...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    I live near a large seasonal amusement park... and I almost never go. Disney is such a better experience for many reasons, but a big part of it is that I don't have to spend half my day standing in lines. Granted I make good decisions - I don't visit WDW in July or during Christmas week, I'm at...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    I fear you're right. And if so, there is a business argument for what Disney is doing. At least to bump short-term income. They will suffer long-term impacts, though. If you don't treat your best customers right, it will eventually bite you.
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    My point is that there's another option besides cancelling the trip entirely. Disney wants to maximize my spending, but the truth is I spent more on my trips years ago when I had more freedom to do impulsive things. I dislike being forced to plan and pressured to spend, so my reaction has been...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    My wife and I are planning a long weekend trip, and as of now we are not buying park passes unless they make APs available again. We plan to just hang out by the pool, walk around Disney Springs, check out the Riviera Resort which we haven't seen, and have some nice dinners at resorts on...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    Totally fair point. And one attraction isn't necessarily equal to another. Rise of the Resistance has more value than the Teacups. New attractions, live entertainment, fireworks, etc adds value - and I'm definitely willing to pay more for that stuff! That's how this should work - add value to...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    Well... some people don't like change. You'll still find people complaining about the loss of Mr Toad's Wild Ride. What I'm talking about is value, which for this conversation I define as: Experiences had/money paid. 45 attractions for $400 is a better value than 30 attractions for $400...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    This is the only thing that MIGHT give me some hope. I can remember discussing FP years ago and the consensus was that in terms of being able to experience a lot of attractions, the old paper FP was the best option... no FP was the second best option and the latest form of FP was the least...
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    FastPass+ Most Certainly Not Coming Back As It Was

    For decades now, I've argued that I get good value from my WDW vacations. (We do a lot of tricks to achieve that - DVC, APs, FPs etc.) My argument was centered around the fact that while a WDW vacation is pricey, you get a lot for that money. For example, with some smart strategies and planning...
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    Rumor Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

    Every discussion on Imagination is tempered by the expectation that the attraction will not be an "E-Ticket" or anything particularly innovative or exciting. Why is that? Maybe because the attraction has been lackluster for decades. We cannot IMAGINE (ha) anything amazing actually going in...
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    RotR: Disney is still not at Universal's level

    It astonishes me that so many threads turn into "Disney vs Universal". I really enjoy both but they are really different so I don't really see the point in comparing them. That being said, I've been waiting for Disney to answer "Spiderman" for nearly 20 years. So even if it's not quite as...
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    News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance Standby Line and Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios

    When I think of a land I think "Fantasyland" or "Tomorrowland" - awesome theme and lots of attractions. IMHO just two attractions isn't "a land" regardless of who built it or how good the theme is. That said, I still enjoy all of them and I'm super excited to see this new Star Wars "area" of...
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    Why is WDW so stressful, expensiv and overcrowded these days? The fear of dissapointment from a 2020-First-Timer

    I'm one of the most negative people on these boards because I compare WDW to what it used to be. That being said I would still expect the Disney Magic to do its thing for a first-timer who loves Disney movies. You'll have a great time! Just do some planning (unfortunately a necessity these days)...
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    News 'Disney After Hours' ticketed event

    The truly ironic part is that Disney helped generate the demand for these events by "creating" longer standby lines (both through the impact of FP+ and with shorter park hours - especially fewer late nights at MK, and fewer evening EMHs). So when you spend so much of your day in lines, it's not...
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    Planning a no park day, what do you do?

    We went around to numerous resorts one year during the Christmas season to see how the different resorts were decorated for Christmas. We started at Old Key West, drove over to Port Orleans French Quarter and Riverside, then drove to Wilderness Lodge. From there we caught the boat to the...
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    Has Disney Pricing Increases/Atmosphere Cuts Altered YOUR FAMILIES WDW Attendance?

    I agree many people are like that, but I've never really been like that - especially when it comes to WDW. I love Walt's quote about how the park will never be "finished", how it can keep getting better and better. As far as attractions go, I think WDW might be better now than it ever was - and...
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    Has Disney Pricing Increases/Atmosphere Cuts Altered YOUR FAMILIES WDW Attendance?

    Wonderful. So apparently Disney is doing a great job of lowering expectations. It's too bad you didn't get to experience the parks like we did. Watching the parade, watching the fireworks and then staying in the MK for hours, walking on popular rides at 1am. We had so much fun. Our kids grew up...
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    Autism lawsuit court date set Feb 2020

    These days, very little surprises me - people will game any system to give themselves an advantage, without caring who gets hurt in the process. But it still astonishes me that people would abuse a program set up for people with disabilities. I mean c'mon people... be a human being for crying...
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    Has Disney Pricing Increases/Atmosphere Cuts Altered YOUR FAMILIES WDW Attendance?

    Just to clarify, it's not only that ticket prices have gone up, it's that I can't do as much as I used to do with that same pass. The parks aren't open as long, the lines are longer, there's less live entertainment, no evening MK parade, etc. As I said, I don't bother comparing Disney to other...
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