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I can see that… if the boat is docked, or gone, there would be no need to have a looping river. Even if they just keep the river as a divider between big thunder and villains, there’s still potential for a nice waterfront. Maybe not on the scale of what we have now, but better than nothing!

I shared this idea earlier, but I’ve clarified the concept. (Some armchair imagineering😅) In the concept it appears they‘ve tried to keep the cars area facing north, with the south side made up of mostly rock work, maybe some frontier style buildings, and the back of the show buildings possibly...

We’d all be celebrating this layout! (While still bemoaning cars in Frontierland 😅) would’ve been great

I agree… having cars at the back would have been better. But maybe they can build up a new river front area just north of the upcoming cars section? make it very natural, a la national parks… and if they do keep the back look, even shortened, imagine a villains land along the river. could be...

I had the same thought! The current concept doesn’t rule this out… I’m hopeful that they plan to save the northern loop of ROA. It would allow big thunder to remain on the water front and they could dock the belle just west of the haunted mansion in a new small extension of liberty square which...

The artwork looks Iike they’re channeling the spirit of the never built western river expedition, or mine train into natures wonderland… with the natural landscapes, caves, and waterfalls. All in the spirit of frontierland. Unfortunately they are forced to build something IP driven and...

The coaster track passing underground in the foreground of the concept art would be very cool if realized. Reminds me of Taron from the phantasialand theme park in Germany