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  1. Club34

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Are there instances of this oral antiviral medication that can stop an infection in its tracks that science can learn from or borrow from?
  2. Club34

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    You are reading me wrong. That is what I am asking. What is the plan... The person who responded to me was criticizing Israel. Israel adopted the vaccine quickly and had decent adoption rates as was deemed possible at that time. Within those parameters, nearly 80% of the population was...
  3. Club34

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Thank you. I can't get at the 2nd one it's behind a paywall, unfortunately. I may try to attack it later to see if there is a workaround.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Then I concur. This issue (ability to lead/work together) is intertwined with our mission (my mission?) to thwart this pandemic. However, it won't happen easily if it all with our current discourse. You can have an excellent clinical team, clinical theory, and what have you, but it will go...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Yes? You are providing data to support my claim? Or data to show this forum is very similar to the board meeting? I dunno...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I know, right? Isn't Israel horrible? Let's add them to the list too. According to NPR (but feel free to share your own data), Israel's vax rate is near 80% for those eligible for inoculation. If you include those who are not eligible it brings it to the number you say around 60% (according...
  7. Club34

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Please share this data on the forum. It sounds definitive!
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    People are worried about their kids' mental health and mask-wearing vs seeing how so-called adults lead and work together (spoiler alert- the adults can't on either front). Perhaps this is why kids are in trouble moving forward. Just my opinion of course.
  9. Club34

    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Do you mean because Israel has a good vax rate? Didn't you get the memo? Don't question the plan. What plan, you say? Didn't you get the memo? Repeat.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I guess our FDA is unaware that millions of doses of Ivermectin has been given to humans around the globe for decades with a very good safety record. Whoever at the FDA posted that or approved it to be posted should be fired. A more reasonable tweet would have effectively given the message...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    See everyone... Was that so hard? Answering a simple question. Lol. Thank you for taking the time. My thoughts are (and again, I'm not trying to weave a conspiracy here)... Did they know there would be this "leakage"? Did they know that the spike protein would dissipate rather quickly or...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    You are very wise. Perhaps if you are not busy 🙂 , you can help this walking paperweight make sense of this... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1537189120303281 Because this article appears to be at the crux of the controversy of the "science" based "concern" about the...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Are you saying asking what the long-term effects are is not a legitimate concern? Because this again is what I am referencing when I say things are being oversold. I don't care how long mRNA has been in development. The vax for covid was not, the delivery system was. I don't care whether or...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Anywhere. And I should say there is a difference of a person being ambivalent. I'm talking about folks who are firmly anti-vaxx. I was ambivalent and I was one of the first in the nation to get the vax back in January 2021 because I work in a Level 1 trauma center/ER. I did not want to do...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Mandates are a whole other matter and one that will take the politicization of the issue to the stratosphere. I realize we have little control outside our nation but if our vax rate is 100% and the rest of the world is at 30% I don't know if the virus will be contained. Maybe it would. I...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I hope so too. But we are currently meandering around 50% is it? But I believe the bigger issue is the globe as I look at the data (and mind you I am dumber than a bag of hammers).
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Except I would say it does matter. No one, and I mean no one, on the forum is going to convince anyone to get vaccinated at this point. People need to accept that. Pride is toxic and that is where we are at in my opinion. So knowing that these minds will likely never be changed by data...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I appreciate your posting of the articles. I was talking about this very thing in a private forum not too long ago that we need to hear more about what having covid does or does not do in terms of immunity. I think that is why some people are wondering about the topic. The narrative is to...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Here is my original post. What is not honest? See bolded/underlined below. I never said that immunity acquired from having covid was better than the vaccine. Now that would make you being dishonest. Please do not come at me and put me in a position to have to respond like this. You are...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    There is more nuance than these binary positions here would have one believe. I am not going against the notion that vaccinations represent the most effective defense in the current pandemic. However, these positions are also being oversold. ...if we're being honest. Immunity as mentioned...
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