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  1. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I'm not trying to defend TDO, I'm simply not as apoplectic as other folks on this board. I don't understand why asking questions and pointing out things is a bad thing. I get that folks are upset, I'm not trying to deny them their feelings, I just want to make sure our arguments and statements...
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    The Harmony Barber Shop at the Magic Kingdom closing for refurbishment in early 2015

    The place is always busy when I visit. The press release does say reopening March 31st.
  3. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    These folks were given over a months notice, that's quite a heads up. How much notice do you think a company should give? To your second point, I agree that this seems to be a cost cutting measure, but that really shouldn't impact whether or not people are able to enjoy the new acts. IF they...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I don't think I failed, I think I've shown that Youtube views can be accumulated for a variety of things. Let's try this another way, what were the two acts you were comparing using Youtube? Adventurers Club and what else?
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I think the scenarios are quite different. You're discussing a headliner attraction that is beloved the world over being replaced with a minor attraction that would be a clone of something that already exists. You are comparing that to one live entertainment that performs sporadically being...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Why is it ironic? I've conceded many points and admitted that much of what I have posted is based on opinion. How is it ironic at all?
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    What you are implying is the very dumbing down and "walmartification" that so many others in this thread have been railing against and accusing others of supporting for the past 45 pages. Do you really think that Disney should do what it can to appeal to the broadest base possible with acts that...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    IN YOUR OPINION. I honestly never cared for Off Kilter, and maybe my family and i would enjoy the lumberjack show, I don't know because I haven't seen it yet. And from a factual standpoint, Off Kilter IS being replaced by a Lumberjack show, whether you like it or not. I'm sorry to be snippy...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Gangam Style is the number one YouTube video of all time with 2,075,430,458 as of this evening. The top result for Beethoven's 5th Symphony has only 1,517,135 as of this evening. I not so sure that popularity, especially of the YouTube variety is always an indication of quality.
  10. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    As I've stated before, making false analogies such as this does not further your argument. I get what you are saying, but refuse to concede that these new acts will be inferior to the ones they are replacing. I acknowledge that you might like them less, but I just don't see enough proof yet...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I have stated, in replies to you, that I acknowledge the budgetary aspect of this AND that at the end of the year there will be less acts than at the beginning. I'm trying to have a rational and calm conversation with you and in order to determine if that is possible, I'm asking you to concede...
  12. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Dude, I'm not talking budget, I'm not talking zitis, I'm asking, can you accept and agree that in this specific press release the total number of acts is equal, that is it, nothing outside of that. If you can't, why can't you?
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I did not overlook them, I intentionally left them out, and stated that I was doing such. I am talking about THIS press release and nothing else. Can we agree that in THIS press release and not taking into account any other cuts, that there is no decrease in the total number of performers?
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    I think both arguments are being made. I can't speak to the Equity shows, because we need that data beyond just Off Kilter and the ones specifically affected by these cuts. I'm addressing the lists that were posted earlier and calling in to question whether or not this specific change actually...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    From this very website: World Showcase Players will have its final performance September 25 2014. Off Kilter in Canada, Mo’Rockin in Morocco and the Spirit of America will be performing for the final time on September 27 2014. New live entertainment planned includes a traditional Berber music...
  16. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    It is a pretty damning list and does speak to an issue of entertainments being depleted, but does it really prove the point of anyone in this thread? This is not a case of straight cuts, this is a case of replacements. In this isolated incident does the list actually shrink? That being said...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Thanks, I don't wanna see it burned either, this was my grandfathers house before I bought it and my two children would likely be saddened by such an event. Thanks for the compliment, I really like to engage in deep conversations here, but I like to really analyze things and try to see all...
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    One of the major points in this thread has been the assertion that outside acts are inferior and a bad sign. If we were to see historical evidence of which acts where inside acts and which where third-party, it would help either prove that point or disprove it. If, for example, one of those...
  19. Fractal514

    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Pretty sure it was mine. I could be wrong. Him and a few others started ignoring my posts. I really wish they would address and answer some of the questions I posed to them though.
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    EPCOT Entertainment cuts

    Two points on this. 1. It does suck to lose a job, no matter who you are or what industry you have chosen. I'm sure that these folks knew everything you said and are reconciled to that, but still feel crappy about it. 2. You are absolutely right about the nature of the entertainment...
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