News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure

[Disney Irish]

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This guy is pointing right at the coaster and is not having it

Lol, I don't know if that is what he is pointing at, but its clearly an outdoor queue inside the courtyard.

 

[TP2000]

Has anyone tried to overlay the New Orleans Square footprint, including both Pirates show buildings, onto this space?

Or how about the Small World footprint, including outside queue and garden area?

What's the comparison like? New Orleans Square is a masterpiece of Imagineering, and it would be interesting to think they could replicate that type of environment for the Coco ride. Fingers crossed for E Ticket!

 

[J4546]

I just wanted to chime in and say I like Pixar Pier but would rather it be rethemed back to paradise pier and lean into the victorian era parks vibe. But I still think that area is great for what it has to offer. 10 rides (so far), 3 restaurants, a massive show on the water, multiple quick serve, games, and entertainment offerings all in one space. I dig it.

 

[britain]

Has anyone tried to overlay the New Orleans Square footprint, including both Pirates show buildings, onto this space?

Or how about the Small World footprint, including outside queue and garden area?

What's the comparison like? New Orleans Square is a masterpiece of Imagineering, and it would be interesting to think they could replicate that type of environment for the Coco ride. Fingers crossed for E Ticket!

I would but I'm busy at work right now.

In other news...

 

[MistaDee]

I just wanted to chime in and say I like Pixar Pier but would rather it be rethemed back to paradise pier and lean into the victorian era parks vibe. But I still think that area is great for what it has to offer. 10 rides (so far), 3 restaurants, a massive show on the water, multiple quick serve, games, and entertainment offerings all in one space. I dig it.

Agree, but the best I’m hoping for is a Pixar toontown amusement pier where the unifying design language is Victorian inspired

 

[britain]

Agree, but the best I’m hoping for is a Pixar toontown amusement pier where the unifying design language is Victorian inspired

Well, if I had my druthers, I'd push things even further, and have immersive little Pixar worlds using Victorian pier as connecting tissue, similar to how the new expansion at WDS is immersive Frozen, immersive Lion King, using "Art Nouveau Gardens" as the connecting tissue.

(Yes, I know it's "Disney Adventure World" now. Yucky name.)

 

[mickEblu]

Well, if I had my druthers, I'd push things even further, and have immersive little Pixar worlds using Victorian pier as connecting tissue, similar to how the new expansion at WDS is immersive Frozen, immersive Lion King, using "Art Nouveau Gardens" as the connecting tissue.

(Yes, I know it's "Disney Adventure World" now. Yucky name.)

Don’t get me started on this awful name. Terrible on multiple counts. Most generic name they could have picked and dimishes the meaning behind WDW. A singular Disney park shouldn’t have “World” in the name

 

[DrStarlander]

Has anyone tried to overlay the New Orleans Square footprint, including both Pirates show buildings, onto this space?

Or how about the Small World footprint, including outside queue and garden area?

What's the comparison like? New Orleans Square is a masterpiece of Imagineering, and it would be interesting to think they could replicate that type of environment for the Coco ride. Fingers crossed for E Ticket!

If all three backstage buildings go, they could fit New Orleans Square's buildings (sans Haunted Mansion and train station), plus a carousel if they wanted to create a festive Mexican village during Day of the Dead celebrations. There's even room for a lengthy transition into the area. Pirates is such an unusual shape I didn't try to fit it in, but there's room for a big show building.

 

[britain]

If all three backstage buildings go, they could fit New Orleans Square's buildings (sans Haunted Mansion and train station), plus a carousel if they wanted to create a festive Mexican village during Day of the Dead celebrations. There's even room for a lengthy transition into the area. Pirates is such an unusual shape I didn't try to fit it in, but there's room for a big show building.
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Thanks for creating this.

If this is what people have in mind as far as "open plaza" goes, then yes, I understand the concerns about the Incredicoaster ruining things. I think it's going to be much tighter, and the open plaza won't be very open. More like the portion you've got there from the beignets walk-up window to Club 33. The buildings and walls around it will need to be taller than the width of the open space.

 

[Disney Irish]

Thanks for creating this.

If this is what people have in mind as far as "open plaza" goes, then yes, I understand the concerns about the Incredicoaster ruining things. I think it's going to be much tighter, and the open plaza won't be very open. More like the portion you've got there from the beignets walk-up window to Club 33. The buildings and walls around it will need to be taller than the width of the open space.

Honestly when I think of a Mexican plaza courtyard I think of something like these -

Basically squared in high walls open to the sky.

 

[britain]

Honestly when I think of a Mexican plaza courtyard I think of something like these -

Basically squared in high walls open to the sky.

Exactly - the open area within a person’s estate, not the public open space in a village.

 

[Disney Irish]

Exactly - the open area within a person’s estate, not the public open space in a village.

That is what we are entering though based on the concept art, literally says Family House Museum over the threshold.

 

[coffeefan]

This got me thinking, to continue the BVS story and make a connection to Walt, it would be nice if they set the land in the 1940s.

 

[DrStarlander]

Thanks for creating this.

If this is what people have in mind as far as "open plaza" goes, then yes, I understand the concerns about the Incredicoaster ruining things. I think it's going to be much tighter, and the open plaza won't be very open. More like the portion you've got there from the beignets walk-up window to Club 33. The buildings and walls around it will need to be taller than the width of the open space.

No, I don't expect the full New Orleans type approach. I agree a plaza is most likely a relatively confined area boxed in by buildings/facades, more of a courtyard. This was more of an exploration of what could fit back there.

But as far as sightline issues, Disney can do magic when they want. The cliffs behind Cars Land are not that thick, and they could do backdrops of green mountains like this to envelope a Mexican Village (in addition to buildings near the ground/foreground).

But...we are so accustomed to limitations and compromises at DCA. And since the concept art shows Incredicoaster along with Coco, it seemed (to me at least) that Disney was strongly signaling: Don't get too excited people. This is going to be a "just okay" budget project.

 

[mickEblu]

No, I don't expect the full New Orleans type approach. I agree a plaza is most likely a relatively confined area boxed in by buildings/facades, more of a courtyard. This was more of an exploration of what could fit back there.

But as far as sightline issues, Disney can do magic when they want. The cliffs behind Cars Land are not that thick, and they could do backdrops of green mountains like this to envelope a Mexican Village (in addition to buildings near the ground/foreground).
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But...we are so accustomed to limitations and compromises at DCA. And since the concept art shows Incredicoaster along with Coco, it seemed (to me at least) that Disney was strongly signaling: Don't get too excited people. This is going to be a "just okay" budget project.
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I think it was more to let people know where it’s going but I could be wrong

 

[coffeefan]

No, I don't expect the full New Orleans type approach. I agree a plaza is most likely a relatively confined area boxed in by buildings/facades, more of a courtyard. This was more of an exploration of what could fit back there.

But as far as sightline issues, Disney can do magic when they want. The cliffs behind Cars Land are not that thick, and they could do backdrops of green mountains like this to envelope a Mexican Village (in addition to buildings near the ground/foreground).
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But...we are so accustomed to limitations and compromises at DCA. And since the concept art shows Incredicoaster along with Coco, it seemed (to me at least) that Disney was strongly signaling: Don't get too excited people. This is going to be a "just okay" budget project.
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If they covered the coaster with a mountain/volcano, they could do something like this -

 

[DrStarlander]

I think it was more to let people know where it’s going but I could be wrong

Yeah, it's possible. They could have just said in words/verbally: "It will be behind Pixar Pier" with a more compelling -- unspoiled by the coaster -- image of Coco stuff (if they planned to make the Incredicoaster not seen). It's unusual for them to lower expectations with an intention of exceeding them. I'm trying to think of another project's concept art that has an unwelcome/unhelpful element shown in it.

 

[mickEblu]

Yeah, it's possible. They could have just said in words/verbally: "It will be behind Pixar Pier" with a more compelling -- unspoiled by the coaster -- image of Coco stuff (if they planned to make the Incredicoaster not seen). It's unusual for them to lower expectations with an intention of exceeding them. I'm trying to think of another project's concept art that has an unwelcome/unhelpful element shown in it.

They often set higher expectations than they need to like comparing this attraction to POTC/ HM for example. So it wouldn’t really line up with recent history.

 

[MistaDee]

No, I don't expect the full New Orleans type approach. I agree a plaza is most likely a relatively confined area boxed in by buildings/facades, more of a courtyard. This was more of an exploration of what could fit back there.

But as far as sightline issues, Disney can do magic when they want. The cliffs behind Cars Land are not that thick, and they could do backdrops of green mountains like this to envelope a Mexican Village (in addition to buildings near the ground/foreground).
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But...we are so accustomed to limitations and compromises at DCA. And since the concept art shows Incredicoaster along with Coco, it seemed (to me at least) that Disney was strongly signaling: Don't get too excited people. This is going to be a "just okay" budget project.
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It’s less the thickness of the cliff elements that matters, it’s the distance from guest accessible areas that sell the illusion.

I don’t think there’s enough space to even try to do so, and it seems clear Disney has no plans to

 

[Distorian]

No, I don't expect the full New Orleans type approach. I agree a plaza is most likely a relatively confined area boxed in by buildings/facades, more of a courtyard. This was more of an exploration of what could fit back there.

But as far as sightline issues, Disney can do magic when they want. The cliffs behind Cars Land are not that thick, and they could do backdrops of green mountains like this to envelope a Mexican Village (in addition to buildings near the ground/foreground).
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But...we are so accustomed to limitations and compromises at DCA. And since the concept art shows Incredicoaster along with Coco, it seemed (to me at least) that Disney was strongly signaling: Don't get too excited people. This is going to be a "just okay" budget project.
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I always found it odd they never filled in the back of RSR. Obviously it doesn’t need to be artistically done, but would it really have been that much more expensive to cover the beams with a wall of cement instead of the jagged grate?