DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[lazyboy97o]

Because you’re a normal human being not expecting Disney to fix views hundreds of feet in the air from the Skyline.

Otherwise it’s hidden from inside the park view.

Except that Ratatouille is there in no small part to clean up the view for the Skyliner…

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Because you’re a normal human being not expecting Disney to fix views hundreds of feet in the air from the Skyliner.

The highest point of the skyliner is 60’ and that’s not the area approaching Epcot. It’s a direct view and very noticeable.

It seems that any normal human being would notice?

 

[eddie104]

The highest point of the skyliner is 60’ and that’s not the area approaching Epcot. It’s a direct view and very noticeable.

It seems that any normal human being would notice?

I wouldn’t expect everything to be hidden based on the mode of transportation I’m using.

There is literally nothing they can do to hide the view. If they had built the Skyliner in a different location that would’ve helped big time.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There is literally nothing they can do to hide the view.

Huh? All they had to do was a facade?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The issues people here point out and not even thought of by the common guest.

Yes, many of us have studied books by and even gotten to meet and talk with imagineers and love the attention to details.

The line in one of the imagineer books was something like “nobody goes home and says you got to go to Disney - they used 5 shades of white when painting the grand Floridian!” - but when they say “you got to go to Disney - the place is really special” - they are saying that. They just don’t know it.

 

[BrianLo]

It’s also vital to note that there hasn’t been some explosion in the popularity of roller coasters. Roller Coasters have been crowd pleasers since the 19th century. What has changed is Disney executives willingness to build coasters and the fact that they have constructed a system that very heavily incentivizes them to build roller coasters to the overall detriment of the park experience.

There is also the component of their most recent decisions that seem motivated to build things for the millennial armchair imagineers. Currently the Disneyland side of the forum is absolutely awash with pleas for a roller coaster, so there is certainly "a" fan contingent desperately seeking them.

I have seen from adjacent communities that this project is their most anticipated of the four major ones at WDW. I know full well you would probably have a lot of space between your own ranking of 1-4 and this wouldn't be occupying 1 or 2.

Coasters inevitably as you say are easy crowd pleasers and crowd pleasers are easy to monetize in this new era of individual attractions being monetized. Or I guess a half return to the ticket book. I would not be surprised if we're both talking about more next decade... Epcot and Animal Kingdom.

Really? I'm less worried on basically every other current project at WDW.

I'd go so far as to say there may be more cause for concern on this one than their entire global portfolio of projects right now, save maybe the Spiderman Coaster. I'm really curious if someone takes the last minute opportunity to fix it or not.

 

[sedati]

That would require a structure not on the plans. In an area where they aren’t doing any work.

Also, this art just conveniently ignores the coaster box.

They've been working by the MuppetVision exit for a while. Not sure for what.

 

[lazyboy97o]

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They've been working by the MuppetVision exit for a while. Not sure for what.

As for the big gravity building I believe it will be hidden by three dimensional structures with some sort of flat or dimensional flat behind it. Almost like a multi-plane set-up. One thing that the image posted earlier showing the Peter Pan ride building is that they sculpted clouds. In all the images of the building, smokestacks are shown with smoke coming out. What if, instead of using actual smoke, this is the barrier that hides the top of the building. A series of wispy streams all blowing in the same direction that mask the top of the structure. The building could be flanked by smokestacks. Something like this:View attachment 912764

Really? You don’t see all that space between your circle and the new building?

Painted flats that aren’t tall enough to obscure the box would definitely be a choice.

 

[DrStarlander]

As for the big gravity building I believe it will be hidden by three dimensional structures with some sort of flat or dimensional flat behind it. Almost like a multi-plane set-up. One thing that the image posted earlier showing the Peter Pan ride building is that they sculpted clouds. In all the images of the building, smokestacks are shown with smoke coming out. What if, instead of using actual smoke, this is the barrier that hides the top of the building. A series of wispy streams all blowing in the same direction that mask the top of the structure. The building could be flanked by smokestacks.

Good idea, I also described exactly that and provided a sketch of it up above at 5:16 (PDT). Hopefully WDI also thinks of the idea.

 

[sedati]

Really? You don’t see all that space between your circle and the new building?

I forgot that they're all done, sorry.

 

[sedati]

Good idea, I also described exactly that and provided a sketch of it up above at 5:16 (PDT). Hopefully WDI also thinks of the idea.

Hey, I should have kept scrolling. Yes, you sketched out the same concept and in an even clearer way! I'll modify my post.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Uh, why would you think it would look like anything other than the physical model of the actual attraction, shown in the posts directly above yours?

I never did think that but others were talking about the show building being just a big blue box when the design of the building itself is supposed to house the entire ride attraction with no external boxes necessary. Therefore making it a complete themed situation.

 

[_caleb]

There is literally nothing they can do to hide the view. If they had built the Skyliner in a different location that would’ve helped big time.

They could have themed the entire building(s), in 3 dimensions.

 

[DrStarlander]

Hiding show buildings by painting them blue is half a solution. For the vast amount of what you see -- it works pretty well (as long as you're not seeing the side with downspouts). Yet the problem is that our eyes are naturally always looking for edges to discern shapes and identify things. The edge where the fake blue and real blue sky meet grabs our attention and the illusion collapses. And then it kind of feels just a bit insulting, like "do they think we're that dumb?" The effort they put into the illusion is a signal of just how intelligent they feel we are.

A more advanced version of this illusion obfuscates that edge with an intermediating distraction. Logs for Berk (because there are space-frame log structures throughout that land) or clouds for Monstropolis, for example.

Having rounded edges also would help for the same reason the inside curves of a photography studio -- a cyclorama -- are rounded, so as not to be perceived. It hides the transitions between planes.

The other alternative is a continuous scenic backdrop with a thematic shaped profile extending above the building. For example, the mountains of Disneyland's Toontown. For Monsters, Inc. they can do the backdrop like that with many smokestacks and water towers and have a bumpy smoke edge at the top extending above the otherwise flat roof of the show building.

In an even more advanced (though experimental, I haven't yet seen this) version, instead of blue paint they would use mirrored surface, perhaps angled slightly up to dynamically reflect the actual color of the sky, combined with edge-concealing, to make the building "disappear":

There are opportunities to do better than just blue paint, and it will be interesting to see what they do at Monstropolis.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Hiding show buildings by painting them blue is half a solution. For the vast amount of what you see -- it works pretty well (as long as you're not seeing the side with downspouts). Yet the problem is that our eyes are naturally always looking for edges to discern shapes and identify things. The edge where the fake blue and real blue sky meet grabs our attention and the illusion collapses. And then it kind of feels just a bit insulting, like "do they think we're that dumb?" The effort they put into the illusion is a signal of just how intelligent they feel we are.
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A more advanced version of this illusion obfuscates that edge with an intermediating distraction. Logs for Berk (because there are space-frame log structures throughout that land) or clouds for Monstropolis, for example.

The other alternative is a continuous scenic backdrop with a thematic shaped profile extending above the building. For example, the mountains of Disneyland's Toontown. For Monsters, Inc. they can do the backdrop like that with many smokestacks and water towers and have a bumpy smoke edge at the top extending above the otherwise flat roof of the show building.
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In an even more advanced (though experimental, I haven't yet seen this) version, instead of blue paint they would use mirrored surface, perhaps angled slightly up to dynamically reflect the actual color of the sky, combined with edge-concealing, to make the building "disappear":
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There are opportunities to do better than just blue paint, and it will be interesting to see what they do at Monstropolis.

Really cool stuff. Thanks for sharing these

 

[JohnD]

Hiding show buildings by painting them blue is half a solution. For the vast amount of what you see -- it works pretty well (as long as you're not seeing the side with downspouts). Yet the problem is that our eyes are naturally always looking for edges to discern shapes and identify things. The edge where the fake blue and real blue sky meet grabs our attention and the illusion collapses. And then it kind of feels just a bit insulting, like "do they think we're that dumb?" The effort they put into the illusion is a signal of just how intelligent they feel we are.
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A more advanced version of this illusion obfuscates that edge with an intermediating distraction. Logs for Berk (because there are space-frame log structures throughout that land) or clouds for Monstropolis, for example.

Having rounded edges also would help for the same reason the inside curves of a photography studio -- a cyclorama -- are rounded, so as not to be perceived. It hides the transitions between planes.

The other alternative is a continuous scenic backdrop with a thematic shaped profile extending above the building. For example, the mountains of Disneyland's Toontown. For Monsters, Inc. they can do the backdrop like that with many smokestacks and water towers and have a bumpy smoke edge at the top extending above the otherwise flat roof of the show building.
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In an even more advanced (though experimental, I haven't yet seen this) version, instead of blue paint they would use mirrored surface, perhaps angled slightly up to dynamically reflect the actual color of the sky, combined with edge-concealing, to make the building "disappear":
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There are opportunities to do better than just blue paint, and it will be interesting to see what they do at Monstropolis.

When the Monsters, Inc. actual building is shown as huge in the movie, there really is no need to hide this one. You're seeing what you're supposed to see.

 

[lazyboy97o]

When the Monsters, Inc. actual building is shown as huge in the movie, there really is no need to hide this one. You're seeing what you're supposed to see.

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Look at the model…

 

[DrStarlander]

Perhaps this will help -- the most likely options from cheapest to highest cost...

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

has anyone created a mock up in Google Earth with the street view pegman turned on to see how it could hypothetically look from guest POV?

 

[DrStarlander]

has anyone created a mock up in Google Earth with the street view pegman turned on to see how it could hypothetically look from guest POV?

I haven't don't that specifically, but this is what I'd be expecting -- using the attraction in Tokyo as a basis. Then you can imagine the different options for scenic murals, flat or profile top, etc. from above.

If they constrain the walkway approach to being a direct, and somewhat narrow path through an allée of trees, they could conceal the side edges of the show building to some degree.