News Construction Underway on Fourth Wish Class Ship: Disney Believe

[peter11435]

Assuming the data is correct, this still doesn’t mean it has “nothing” to do with it. The things they don’t know they are “missing out on” can be offset by things they like about the Wish. Not everything has an = value. Not saying first time cruisers don’t enjoy the Wish more. I’m saying the claim that it has nothing to do with it is false. One can value the new things the ship has to offer more than some of the things that were changed that the OG 4 ships did better.

I think you’re still missing my point. If not knowing what they are missing on the other ships boosts some first time cruisers opinions of the Wish class. Why then would the original classes score lower amongst cruises that have their first time on those ships?

 

[Chi84]

I think you’re still missing my point. If not knowing what they are missing on the other ships boosts some first time cruisers opinions of the Wish class. Why then would the original classes score lower amongst cruises that have their first time on those ships?

What scores are you referencing?

 

[peter11435]

What scores are you referencing?

Disney collects guest surveys at the end of every cruise

 

[mickEblu]

I think you’re still missing my point. If not knowing what they are missing on the other ships boosts some first time cruisers opinions of the Wish class. Why then would the original classes score lower amongst cruises that have their first time on those ships?

Maybe because those ships aren’t offset by all the new stuff. You’re sleeping in 30 year old rooms as opposed to a brand new ship and now as a consumer you know that the other new ship has the Frozen show, or a Coco show and a Haunted Mansion bar, the Aqua Mouse and a slide into the kids club that your kid would love. Just because they are first time cruisers doesn’t mean they don’t have any knowledge of what’s on the other ships. So if you combine that + the fact that the guest may not know that the older ships are more user friendly if you will, you can see why the Wish/ Treasure would score higher.

 

[Chi84]

Disney collects guest surveys at the end of every cruise

So nothing the public can access? Are there any articles supporting what you're saying?

 

[Two Ears]

Maybe because those ships aren’t offset by all the new stuff. You’re sleeping in 30 year old rooms as opposed to a brand new ship and now as a consumer you know that the other new ship has the Frozen show, or a Coco show and a Haunted Mansion bar, the Aqua Mouse and a slide into the kids club that your kid would love. Just because they are first time cruisers doesn’t mean they don’t have any knowledge of what’s on the other ships. So if you combine that + the fact that the guest may not know that the older ships are more user friendly if you will, you can see why the Wish/ Treasure would score higher.

But you have to count those enhanced entertainment factors on the wish class that new cruisers prefer. You cant just ignore them. The older dcl ships are lacking in them and it was a common complaint about the older ships before the wish class even existed amongst new time cruisers. The older ships just dont have enough disney on them.

 

[cjkeating]

Disney collects guest surveys at the end of every cruise

Can you share the stats you have with us please?

 

[BrianLo]

Far be it from me to restart the argument - but I will.

I think structurally the Wish class is worse, but some of the disagreement arises because some of the venues are indeed “better”.

If it had the structure of the Dream with the modern design decisions of Wish, the fence sitters might change their tune on what makes what better. I do think the dinner theatre aspect and some of the IP bars are successful and I look forward to that on hopefully a better structured vessel.

 

[DCBaker]

Josh D'Amaro has officially announced the name of the fourth Wish class ship arriving in late 2027 - Disney Believe:

 

[DCBaker]

Here's the sizzle reel from Disney Cruise Line:

 

[Disney Analyst]

Well since the Adventure has a 12 minute firework show...

Bring back "Believe ... There's Magic in the Stars" for this ship. Thank you and please.

 

[LittleMerman]

From Disney Parks Blog:

"Onboard the Disney Believe, powerful tales of characters who believe in themselves and their dreams will come to life in exciting new ways. From the mystical worlds of Encanto and Frozen, to the wishing wells of Snow White, to the depths of the sea with Moana and The Little Mermaid, there are endless stories waiting to be discovered and new chapters ready to unfold onboard."

 

[mickEblu]

Is one of these new ships coming out West already?

 

[Disney Analyst]

From Disney Parks Blog:

"Onboard the Disney Believe, powerful tales of characters who believe in themselves and their dreams will come to life in exciting new ways. From the mystical worlds of Encanto and Frozen, to the wishing wells of Snow White, to the depths of the sea with Moana and The Little Mermaid, there are endless stories waiting to be discovered and new chapters ready to unfold onboard."

Encanto for the dinner show? Wanna bets?

 

[HuntrixOwlMouse98]

From Disney Parks Blog:

"Onboard the Disney Believe, powerful tales of characters who believe in themselves and their dreams will come to life in exciting new ways. From the mystical worlds of Encanto and Frozen, to the wishing wells of Snow White, to the depths of the sea with Moana and The Little Mermaid, there are endless stories waiting to be discovered and new chapters ready to unfold onboard."

Still waiting for that day when the new heads start acknowledging the TV Animation IPs other than their endless obsession over the Rudish Mickey Mouse design, can you imagine an Owl House experience on the ship as a last minute addition, that fits the fantasy/adventure genre like most of these popular Disney IPs

 

[OzAn]

Encanto for the dinner show? Wanna bets?

It makes much more sense to be the main theatre broadway show. It's literally perfect for it with its big sets and songs.

Also because there are already Frozen, Moana and Little Mermaid shows, and Snow White isn't as suitable for Broadway (dwarfs hard to cast), so that leaves Encanto only.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I just want to hear about the next class of ships, any word on when they’re going to release details?

 

[DCBaker]

I just want to hear about the next class of ships, any word on when they’re going to release details?

Nothing other than reaffirming 2029 as the introduction - from the release:

The ongoing expansion will grow the fleet to 13 ships by 2031, including the Disney Adventure, which sailed its maiden voyage from Singapore on March 10; the Disney Believe, expected in late 2027; the introduction of a brand-new class of ships in 2029; and an agreement with Disney and Oriental Land Co., Ltd. (OLC) to introduce Disney cruise vacations to Japan in 2029.

 

[LittleMerman]

Encanto for the dinner show? Wanna bets?

I've been wanting that since the Wish! Columbian food would be so awesome. I bet it's either that or a full stage show, that would be really cool too.

 

[joanna71985]

Encanto for the dinner show? Wanna bets?

I don't know about dinner show, but I'll take one of the 3 main theater shows