Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[BrianLo]

Yeah I didn’t mean to say there won’t be a sequel. Just that the story as it was felt very complete to me. Of course pending success any sequel is possible

Also my bad. I wasn’t clarifying what I meant by the inquiry. I wasn’t so much looking for if it sufficiently standalone or needs one, but was kind of wondering if the movie hints at further stories.

I was looking out for it specifically; we can talk more openly about where the movie hints they go next when more have seen it.

 

[Pizza Moon]

The latter, but don’t go in hoping for pure Pixar sentimentality. It’s no Bing Bong or Carl/Ellie or TS3 Etc. Nor is it trying to be, it very quickly moves on.

More Nemo without the adventure.

I’m okay with a change of pace.

I actually liked Elemental a lot more than like Turning Red or Cars 3.

I thought their love story was so beautiful and touched something real the wolrd is experiencing, so change is good.

I am very excited for the upcoming years tho now that they’re embracing Paperman creativity.

 

[Disney Analyst]

 

[Pizza Moon]

 

[Casper Gutman]

Pete needs to learn the words, “No comment.”

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And how did that work out for his film that flopped?

Not to mention he’s ignorant.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Pete needs to learn the words, “No comment.”

He needs more than that.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

And the movie still flopped

Also, maybe not the best thing to say or talk about opening weekend of your latest release.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Doctor’s signature film series is essentially a big “therapy session” so I’m willing to assume he’s carrying water here for the company’s top execs but it’s a really disappointing series of comments. It’s also a very odd time to make these comments. If he’d made them in early ‘25, when the cultural pendulum had seemingly swung to an extreme and Pixar was coming off a string of underperformers, the comments would make a certain craven sense. Now, with a critical and box office success in theaters and the cultural pendulum swinging hard in the other direction, the comments are baffling.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Doctor’s signature film series is essentially a big “therapy session” so I’m willing to assume he’s carrying water here for the company’s top execs but it’s a really disappointing series of comments. It’s also a very odd time to make these comments. If he’d made them in early ‘25, when the cultural pendulum had seemingly swung to an extreme and Pixar was coming off a string of underperformers, the comments would make a certain craven sense. Now, with a critical and box office success in theaters and the cultural pendulum swinging hard in the other direction, the comments are baffling.

Are the comments actually new, or simply being published now to coincide with the release of a new, unrelated movie?

@lazyboy97o look who's the "reluctant leader" now

 

[Pizza Moon]

And the movie still flopped

Also, maybe not the best thing to say or talk about opening weekend of your latest release.

Because it sucked.

I mean it was pretty obvious they were using the original themes as a way to generate buzz.

I think there is a symbiotic relationship between Disney inserting things in their movies and overall quality going down because they think it will provide “cover” for weak writing if you have a girlboss.

You remember all the hate anyone got that thought Rey was a Mary Sue?

Now good look finding a single person that likes her character.

Ironically Finn should’ve been a Jedi, but you know, Disney gotta Disney.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Because it sucked.

I mean it was pretty obvious they were using the original themes as a way to generate buzz.

I think there is a symbiotic relationship between Disney inserting things in their movies and overall quality going down because they think it will provide “cover” for weak writing if you have a girlboss.

You remember all the hate anyone got that thought Rey was a Mary Sue?

Now good look finding a single person that likes her character.

Ironically Finn should’ve been a Jedi, but you know, Disney gotta Disney.

You’re nailing all the talking points.

 

[Nevermore525]

Biggest worldwide opening for an Original Animated film in about a decade. Coco 2017 last biggest.

Hoppers with $88M estimated globally

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Biggest worldwide opening for an Original Animated film in about a decade. Coco 2017 last biggest.

Hoppers with $88M estimated globally

And Sunday hasn’t happened yet!

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I think there is a symbiotic relationship between Disney inserting things in their movies and overall quality going down because they think it will provide “cover” for weak writing if you have a girlboss.

This never made any sense when anybody else parroted it, and it still doesn’t.

Having characters who are not a stereotypical straight, white male does not diminish a story in and of itself.

Everyone wants to see a story about themselves once in a while. Those who most often have stories made about them should be able to handle that.

 

[Pizza Moon]

And the movie still flopped

Also, maybe not the best thing to say or talk about opening weekend of your latest release.

Disney's internal metrics show that publicly stating that Pixar will not force messaging will drive ticket sales.

You are naïve if you think this wasn't a push from Josh.

 

[Pizza Moon]

This never made any sense when anybody else parroted it, and it still doesn’t.

Having characters who are not a stereotypical straight, white male does not diminish a story in and of itself.

Everyone wants to see a story about themselves once in a while. Those who most often have stories made about them should be able to handle that.

It does when it's forced in everything. It takes you out of the moment cuz you know they had a quota because they do, according to Disney's OWN public policies, same with Blackrock, their largest institutional shareholder.


I mean, not having Pleakley in drag for the remake is crazy; that wasn't forced at all. Disney just doesn't get it.



The diversity you seek does work when it's not forced like Spider-Verse or Brokeback Mountain, The Imitation Game, Moonlight, K-pop Demon Hunters, Alien, Rocketman, Bohemian Rhapsody, etc. While I hated Bohemian (loved the others), my point is that nothing was ever "just inserted for the sake of it."

I am not the type of delusional person without nuance, as you can tell by my post history on the topic.


This is forced:

This is not:

You can't tell me with a straight face that Disney hasn't just been doing it as cover for their garbage writing.

Nothing less, nothing more.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Looking like 46m domestic.

 

[Pizza Moon]

Looking like 46m domestic.

It'll probably have Elemental legs based on WOM too.

It could end up higher than Mando, though I guess that depends on when Super Mario Galaxy comes out, which would probably prevent it.

 

[Pizza Moon]

You’re nailing all the talking points.

It's true, you're the one that's denying observable reality...

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This never made any sense when anybody else parroted it, and it still doesn’t.

Having characters who are not a stereotypical straight, white male does not diminish a story in and of itself.

Everyone wants to see a story about themselves once in a while. Those who most often have stories made about them should be able to handle that.

It does when it's forced in everything. It takes you out of the moment cuz you know they had a quota because they do, according to Disney's OWN public policies, same with Blackrock, their largest institutional shareholder.


I mean, not having...

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