BrianLo
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They’ve generally moved back towards 90 day windows.
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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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They’ve generally moved back towards 90 day windows.
SCOTLORR
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Definitely passes the no-pants rule, unless you consider George's crown an article of clothing
Timothy_Q
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*anthropomorphic
James Alucobond
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They’re two different things.
Is this now a measuring contest?
Timothy_Q
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And they're using the incorrect one
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Movielover
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Professortango1
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Great, I'm busy through June, so when I have some time to myself this summer, I can watch it for free without giving Disney a dime. Thanks Disney! Aren't you glad you have your own streaming service where you have trained people to not see your movies in theatres because we know exactly what streaming service they will show up on in a quick amount of time. The ambiguity of where a non-Disney will stream forces me to see it in theatres, but not Disney! I haven't seen a Disney movie in theatres since summer of 2024.
_caleb
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Great. I’m busy through June, so when I have some time to myself this summer, I can watch it for free when my friend rents the VHS at Blockbuster. Aren’t you glad you release movies on VHS, which has trained people to not see your movies in theatres because we know exactly which video stores they will show up on in a quick amount of time. The ambiguity of where non-Disney will be available to rent forces me to see it in theatres, but not Disney! I haven’t seen a Disney movie in theatres since the summer of 1988.
KDM31091
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Agree. Each park is becoming interchangeable. An IP dumping ground with feeble attempts to make it fit in. Just saying "pave your frontier" doesn't make Cars fit into Frontierland. Antonio talking to animals does not automatically make Encanto a wonderful fit for AK, especially when it's such a minor plot point. Alas, it is what it is. I'm trying to accept the Disney I loved is slowly ceasing to exist, and trying to just enjoy what I can out of the new offerings (though some are just outright bad quality like Zootopia: Better Zoogether which is just an objective downgrade from what it was).
But at some point, low effort random IP attractions may come back to bite them as the younger generations may not develop the same strong loyalty to the brand. Think about it: most people who love Disney hardcore love the classic, well thought out attractions, the attention to detail, the thematic integrity. You know, the things that they no longer seem to care about by and large.
I really do hope to be wrong and hope Tropical Americas exceeds all expectations. But I will never completely forgive Disney for excising dinosaurs from this park entirely.
TrainsOfDisney
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that’s a great question… is there anything about Tropical of Americas that wouldn’t fit if they bulldozed Adventureland and plopped it down there?
Likewise the frozen ride at Epcot would be right at home in fantasyland - nobody would ride it and say “why is something about Norway at the magic kingdom? That belongs at Epcot!”
Likewise the frozen ride at Epcot would be right at home in fantasyland - nobody would ride it and say “why is something about Norway at the magic kingdom? That belongs at Epcot!”
AidenRodriguez731
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I mean, no offense because Disney is not entitled whatsoever to any of your money. But this is sort of the reason we don't get many original films anymore.
A lot of people generally see the sequels/remake/etc in theaters because its a "trusted IP" while the originals are delegated to "if I have time, I'll view them on Disney plus maybe" because its "untested IP"
I'm not saying you do this specifically because I gather that you probably don't care to watch either or in theaters at all. But I will just point that out that this logic is why these sequels etc do so amazingly and the originals get a lukewarm response, even when people are specifically stating that it is a great movie, it's not enough anymore to get someone to see it.
Tom Morrow
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Also:
Ratatouille - the only connection is that it takes place in Paris. But the ride isn't about Paris or France or French culture and is only you running around a kitchen.
The Seas with Nemo and Friends - At least they kept the educational aspects of the aquarium, but the omnimover ride which is treated as the main attraction is just a Fantasyland-style recap of the film.
Cosmic Rewind - the only connection to Epcot is that the queue is a parody of classic Epcot pavilions.
Moana - Journey of Water - there's almost no educational aspect and it's just an excuse to take Moana photo ops in a pretty environment. It does not fit thematically or aesthetically with Epcot at all and they forced in a couple of educational signs to give it the tiniest sliver of connection to "World Nature".
Zootopia - I've already covered this extensively in the Zootopia thread.
They keep doing this thing where they include some tiny sliver of a connection to the park so that it fits on a technicality.
In general, Magic Kingdom is more of a generalized themes theme park, and Disney's Hollywood Studios has always been an "anything goes" park (not to mention the "studio theme park" concept is outdated and somewhat obsolete now), so their instances of out of place IP get more of a pass. However, Epcot and DAK should be sticking to very specific attraction types and themes.
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gorillaball
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I think you’ve got to blur the line a little or you’d end up with an even more heavily weighted MK vs the other parks.
Ratatouille I can certainly live with. It feels like a continued celebration of France to me. Is French cuisine not a part of their culture? Does it drastically ruin the area?
Frozen - no.
Zootopia (can’t comment as I have not seen it, seems near unanimous though)
Moana, personally I think is the opposite of many of the other debated things, I think it is educational and fits Epcot from that perspective but doesn’t naturally flow into the surrounding environment. I have no doubt Encanto and Indy will feel like an AK environment better than Dino ever did, but yes the theme cohesiveness is a stretch, we’ll see once it’s done.
Tom Morrow
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I'd have to disagree, because the lines were not blurred until Iger took over and it worked just fine. Walt Disney World was already the number one resort in the world before Iger took over and implemented all of these changes, so I don't know why people try to insinuate that the old methods and philosophy "didn't work". Not saying you're doing this, but in general it comes up as a discussion point often.
The added area is a nice enhancement to France, but how does the ride celebrate French cuisine? It doesn't. You are only a rat running around escaping danger. The movie itself actually does this exceedingly well, but the ride does not emphasize it in any meaningful way.
I've posted this in other threads, but I think if they had to put a Ratatouille ride in France, it could be following Remy through the streets of Paris as he gathers ingredients for a dish he wants to make. This changes the film to be about Paris and French cuisine, starring Remy, and not a ride that is more about Ratatouille, the movie, than France. I get it though, it was a cloned attraction because that was cheaper.
If you ignore all the educational signage it is merely a (albeit very beautiful) interactive water play area. The things the interactive water elements do in the attraction also don't have anything to do with whatever it's trying to teach. The main reasons the attraction was created were very clearly: pretty photo ops, Moana presence in the parks, and a way to cool off. Tying it in with Epcot was almost certainly an afterthought.
Brer Panther
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Maaaaaaaaaaaybe the carousel? I still think that would fit better in Discovery Island than in a Tropical Americas-themed land if you're going to include animals that aren't from South America.
Indiana Jones would certainly fit better in Adventureland. Encanto probably would too, not as sure about that one.
They should've put Guardians of the Galaxy either in Tomorrowland or as a retheme of Rock 'n' Roller Coaster.
TrainsOfDisney
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Based on the art it would look less out of place in Adventureland than the magic carpets do.
Professortango1
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If you treat films as disposable content, then the audience will consume it as such. I always vote with my dollar and support a wide variety of films in theatres. But if I choose not to see "Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die" in theaters, I don't know if that will appear on a Streaming Service I subscribe to/have access to or if it will be on Paramount or Hulu or MGM+ or whatever. So I have to make the choice of see it now in theaters or pay a lot more to see it on streaming later. With Disney stuff, I know exactly where it is going. And if I'm in the mood for a sea of Marvel movies and animated flicks I missed, I can easily get ahold of an account for a week or so and catch up.
Now if Disney put something out that demanded I see it now and not wait a few months, it might be different. But that doesn't seem to be the current big studio trend as of late.