DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[StarWarsGirl]

There have been a few non-IP attractions that have somehow slipped through the cracks such as that and the Adventureland Treehouse at DL but those aren't exactly large-scale projects.

I think (I've only been through it once; my knee doesn't appreciate the stairs) that it's still got loose references to Swiss Family Robinson. But not a movie many are familiar with, so your point stands.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

it's still got loose references to Swiss Family Robinson.

the sign even says “inspired by Swiss family Robinson” - it’s kind of a Disney adventurers / Swiss family / historic mashup.

It’s wonderfully done in my opinion.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

A weird question I know, but has Disney offered any sort of explanation for how the Encanto ride even factors into the "overarching mythology" of the land?

I'd think the fact that the land is Tropical Americas and Encanto takes place in Colombia.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

the sign even says “inspired by Swiss family Robinson” - it’s kind of a Disney adventurers / Swiss family / historic mashup.

It’s wonderfully done in my opinion.

I did like it much better than the cheap Tarzan plastic figures. Those stairs though...straight up. I have a bad left knee that did NOT appreciate it, lol.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Tell me again how Coco fits in Animal Kingdom?

Would an answer really matter? You historically have a very narrow view of the parks theme and purpose, and are quite closed off to any interpretation or perspective that doesn’t rigidly follow your own.

Through this whole thread people have explained to you various different ways in which these things can fit thematically with the park and you dig your heels in every time to deny it and just keep repeating the same sarcastic questions over and over.

 

[Tom Morrow]

There was also Donald Duck being part of Dinoland since he's a descendant of therapod dinosaurs.

Not to mention all the other M&Gs that never truly 'fit' their lands.

It is unknown how much of Encanto is incorporated into Tropical Americas. It seems most certain that the Indy attraction and the Encanto ride are being kept as separate geographically-bounded IPs that don't cross over. You can get to both by going to the town of Esperanza. How much of Esperanza will be wrapped up in the Indy IP or the Encanto IP? I don't know.

Does Esperanza celebrate the Madrigals' magic? Does Esperanza tie into Aztec mythology? (Other than by the merch in the gift shop.)

And so, is the carousel really part of the Encanto world? I don't know. It seems it's certain that it's part of the Esperanza world. And so, it is perhaps that it is in Esperanza that we have a 'real world' modern town that knows of Disney IP. That town also has mystic portals to the world of Encanto and the world of Indy.

Nobody looks at Fantasyland and inquires how the old timey princesses can live in a world with IaSW or a 20th century circus. Sometimes a "land" loosely groups IPs together. And each IP has its own place and time that differs from the other attractions in the same "land."

We should ignore the Donald Duck thing, it was a temporary celebration thing that just ended up sticking around for whatever reason.

M&G characters like the Fab 5 act as ambassadors for the resort as a whole, they are not tied to the theme of story of the land and park they are in. Like, when you meet Mickey at DAK, he's not part of the story, he's there, visiting, like you are.

At the end, you are comparing a park with looser, more general theming (MK/DL) with DAK, a park with very specific and overarching theming.

 

[Agent H]

it was the last non-ip ride..not attraction
Awesome planet was more recent

This is sort of a half-truth because while it’s not marketed that way at all Ty Burrell is basically reprising a less silly version of his his role from modern family(that of a realtor) obviously they don’t explicitly reference anything from the show but i find it a little hard to believe it wasn’t intentional. (To be clear I don’t think it’s a bad thing. In general the Ip mandate bothers me significantly less than it does other people)

 

[Tom Morrow]

This is sort of a half-truth because while it’s not marketed that way at all Ty Burrell is basically reprising a less silly version of his his role from modern family(that of a realtor) obviously they don’t explicitly reference anything from the show but i find it a little hard to believe it wasn’t intentional. (To be clear I don’t think it’s a bad thing. In general the Ip mandate bothers me significantly less than it does other people)

An actor doing their most famous persona doesn't make it an IP attraction. Ellen's Energy Adventure, for example, was not an IP attraction, even though it featured Ellen and Bill Nye doing their usual persona and Jeopardy.

Still, this little side diversion of a film being the only new non-IP attraction at WDW in 20 years is pretty sad.

 

[MisterPenguin]

it was the last non-ip ride..not attraction
Awesome planet was more recent

Indeed, we have (admittedly weakly) non-IP investments in:

• Soarin theater expansion
• two new Soarin experiences
• Green Team experience added to Mission: Space
• Update to American Adventure show
• New Japan restaurant
• New Creperie
• whole new entrance packages
• Creations
• Connections
• Christmas overlay in LwtL keeps getting plussed each year
• New O Canada film

And while Universal provided two new rides that are non-IP, keep in mind that they are adding more IP (Potter expansion) to EU. And over at their other parks, a non-IP roller coaster is becoming a F&F ride. And a whole island (Lost Continent) is becoming IP. And the refresh to the children's section became all Illuminations IP.

Note that "Tropical America" is, in itself, not tied to an IP. It's not "Encanto Land" or "Indy Land."

 

[Tom Morrow]

Indeed, we have (admittedly weakly) non-IP investments in:

• Soarin theater expansion
• two new Soarin experiences
• Green Team experience added to Mission: Space
• Update to American Adventure show
• New Japan restaurant
• New Creperie
• whole new entrance packages
• Creations
• Connections
• Christmas overlay in LwtL keeps getting plussed each year
• New O Canada film

“Here’s some fringe examples that are not major attractions” when we’re definitely talking about major attractions.

And while Universal provided two new rides that are non-IP, keep in mind that they are adding more IP (Potter expansion) to EU. And over at their other parks, a non-IP roller coaster is becoming a F&F ride. And a whole island (Lost Continent) is becoming IP. And the refresh to the children's section became all Illuminations IP.

Yes but “all random IP” has always been Universal’s shtick. It’s a miracle Epic had any non-IP attractions or areas.

Disney’s brand until Iger was immersive and cohesive lands with a mix of IP (that used to be appropriate for that land) and original experiences.

Note that "Tropical America" is, in itself, not tied to an IP. It's not "Encanto Land" or "Indy Land."

Yes, we know it’s not a single IP land.

Notice that Africa and Asia’s main attractions are about the respective culture and habitat of the people and animals of those regions.

Encanto and Indy are not films about animals so any attempt to make them fit is going to be awkward at best.

 

[gerarar]

Source and more:

 

[Jambo Dad]

FWIW the proposed Coco (+ Encanto) addition to MK would not have been part of Frontierland. They also would not have been located exactly where Piston Peak is going, as the original BBT plan was for part of RoA to stay.

Much of that concept has been migrated over to Pueblo Esperanza (including a reworked version of the Encanto ride), but without the Coco E-ticket flying theater ride or any explicit references to Coco.

My personal hope would be that they build that ride where the Odyssey is and add a bridge from the Mexico pavilion (which would server as the ride entrance/exit), giving us a new Coco attraction without sacrificing GFT. Though I’m sure someone here can explain why that would be completely infeasible.

Interesting idea.

 

[Jambo Dad]

We should ignore the Donald Duck thing, it was a temporary celebration thing that just ended up sticking around for whatever reason.

M&G characters like the Fab 5 act as ambassadors for the resort as a whole, they are not tied to the theme of story of the land and park they are in. Like, when you meet Mickey at DAK, he's not part of the story, he's there, visiting, like you are.

At the end, you are comparing a park with looser, more general theming (MK/DL) with DAK, a park with very specific and overarching theming.

Plus I thought it was kind of funny - the distant genealogical connection between dinosaurs and birds.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Though I’m sure someone here can explain why that would be completely infeasible.

I do think that (Odyssey area) is where the sinkhole is - but I’m not sure what space is suitable for major construction or not.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I do think that (Odyssey area) is where the sinkhole is - but I’m not sure what space is suitable for major construction or not.

There is no sinkhole.

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[TrainsOfDisney]

There is no sinkhole.

Sinkholes of Orange County, Florida , 2008

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Alastair Dallas said there was in an interview.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Alastair Dallas said there was in an interview.

There are a number of fanciful stories that have been told by a variety of Imagineers over the years. Even ones that have been repeated for decades like heels getting stuck in the asphalt at Disneyland. I’m not sure why Imagineers who are not geologists would be believed over geologists who were specifically documenting and studying sinkholes in Florida.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I’m not sure why Imagineers who are not geologists would be believed over geologists

Could it be it wasn’t 100% the definition of a sinkhole but similar enough for the intent of an interview?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Could it be it wasn’t 100% the definition of a sinkhole but similar enough for the intent of an interview?

Sure, but that would still be an example of hyperbole for dramatic effect. Whether for not there is actually a sinkhole is also not immaterial to the question of what can be built on the site.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Horizons had to be torn down because it was on a sinkhole.​

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So... let's build something much heavier on top of it. Something incredibly dangerous if there were any shifting of the ground underneath.​

Checks out.