Tom Morrow
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Yeah, but will they do this? Or will they continue doubling down on shoving IP down the guests' throat everywhere all the time?
Also to be clear I would be very upset if Dinosaur does not become Indiana Jones.
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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom
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Yeah, but will they do this? Or will they continue doubling down on shoving IP down the guests' throat everywhere all the time?
Also to be clear I would be very upset if Dinosaur does not become Indiana Jones.
AidenRodriguez731
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They do pivot when things are not working out. They have shown they are able to reflect on that. As to making something IP to non IP we have not seen that yet but I think the important part is it was a possibility if they needed to.
thelookingglass
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As a ride experience, yes, Constellation Carousel is weird. As a thematic centerpiece though, it works. While you could obviously spin up some story about how the Celestians wanted to pay tribute to the four portals they travel to, Universal recognized the importance of having Celestial Park be free of tie-ins and giving it some artistic merit.
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Tom Morrow
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So far we have yet to see current Disney leadership pivot away from their onslaught of IP that has been going on for the last 10-15 years. At WDW, arguably almost 20, as Expedition Everest was the last non-IP attraction at WDW.
AidenRodriguez731
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I agree it's very pretty. I'm disappointed that its such an off ride experience because it would be nice to see some more non IP rides every once in a while and they get popular. Star Dust Racers knew what it was doing. Constellation just kinda... didn't. It's like Alien swirling saucers kinda without the fun or whipping mixed with a regular carousel without any of the speed and nostalgia. It doesn't know what is wants to be and it shows through the ride experience. It has to be the most awkward ride I've seen in recent times... other than F&F of course lol
AidenRodriguez731
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No I agree on that, but I more meant that Disney is willing to listen. (I.e. Frozen faces, Millenium Falcon improvements (Josh literally said they are changing it because guests don't love it as an attraction which is some nice honesty)
I would also like to see a fully original Disney ride in the next 10 years.
James Alucobond
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They'll probably double down, but I'd still prefer the lands be more broadly thematic than attempts to crib things straight from films.
thelookingglass
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I think the big miss with Constellation Carousel is that it doesn't feel like a carousel, and more like you're just awkwardly moving around a big open space. The direction changing and dancing is a unique idea, but also kills any sort of exhilaration that might be had. Also, it needed to have a centerpiece on the ground that you travel around instead of nothing.
That’s it. You’re not invited to the “Final Steel Beam” celebration being held by the biggest and best vloggers and faux-insiders.
Dinoman96
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I guess the weirdest thing about the carousal to me is that, well, its backstory indicates that Disney animated characters and movies are fictional in the context of Tropical Americas, yes? So it's just kinda weird to me that right by, one of those animated features that inspired the villager to make that carousal...also exists in the real world, as Casa Madrigal and the whole Madrigal family also somehow exist in Pueblo Esperanza.
A weird question I know, but has Disney offered any sort of explanation for how the Encanto ride even factors into the "overarching mythology" of the land? Like they already tried handwaving the carousal having random animated Disney characters with the "a Pueblo villager based it on his favorite Disney stories!" thing and even Indiana Jones I'll let slide because he at least ain't a cartoon and his whole thing is being a worldwide adventurer, so I suppose just saying that he heard about the legends of this mythical creature hanging out in the temples on the outskirts of Pueblo and obviously came to visit isn't a big stretch, but like...I know Casa Madrigal to supposed to be magical, did it teleport through time and space to get into the real world? lol
A weird question I know, but has Disney offered any sort of explanation for how the Encanto ride even factors into the "overarching mythology" of the land? Like they already tried handwaving the carousal having random animated Disney characters with the "a Pueblo villager based it on his favorite Disney stories!" thing and even Indiana Jones I'll let slide because he at least ain't a cartoon and his whole thing is being a worldwide adventurer, so I suppose just saying that he heard about the legends of this mythical creature hanging out in the temples on the outskirts of Pueblo and obviously came to visit isn't a big stretch, but like...I know Casa Madrigal to supposed to be magical, did it teleport through time and space to get into the real world? lol
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But… how will the stupids… errr, guests… know they are at a Disney amusement park if they aren’t reminded of that fact with constant Disney brand and Disney IP bombardment?
James Alucobond
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Fichwa Fellow suggests the same thing that the carousel does, so that's more or less in keeping with the other villages. I think that with Casa Madrigal, it's just supposed to read as a hacienda on a distant hill from the majority of the land. It has a bunch of trees in front of it that probably obscure most of it.
TrainsOfDisney
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My biggest hope is that the carousel and Encanto will be fully accessible to all guests - meaning options to stay in mobility devices if needed.
lazyboy97o
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A Disney ride based on infringing Disney’s intellectual property rights is just incredibly stupid. It is anti-theme as its entire purpose to justify anything being in the carousel.
TrainsOfDisney
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I can only hope there is a space within the land that shows evidence that Disney lawyers have found the creator of the carousel and “taken care of him” - it’s an important lesson for children to learn!
James Alucobond
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I think I'd rather just hope that the story related to this doesn't surface in the park at all and that the resemblance is narratively ignored. For instance, there is no attempt to reconcile the Russell and Dug idols in Asia with the existence of Up in the outside world, and I've not seen anyone lose their minds over them. I'm fine with the woodcarver as a background entity who created the carousel, but, like, don't even acknowledge that he based the figures on Disney characters.
peter11435
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Not even the first time they’ve done it in this park.
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BrianLo
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They are never going to, either. There simply isn’t a business or guest feedback case for it.
The one mild positive is that we seem to be in a small era of their portfolio backbench being so large, that they are willing to take risks on unique attractions without the confounder of also taking the risk on the property itself.