DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[Sorcerer Mickey]

Yeah, actually. Why not? People would ride it for the simple reason that there's very little left to do.

They also have plenty of Dinosaur AAs to sprinkle throughout the river!

 

[WaltWiz1901]

See, a ride can be both expensive and cheap.

all made possible by the multiple, often redundant layers of WDI's bureaucracy taking budgets well beyond more than they should be relative to the scope of the project at hand and the newer generation of Imagineers essentially being allowed to phone it in as long as whatever IP's hot at the moment is attached to it because the aura of "Hey look, I'm an Imagineer!" has a greater impact than what they're creating. remember that under the Bobs' Disney, even a simple land (overlay) could cost up to $200 million

I think they should do a Tokyo Winnie the Pooh type ride for Jungle Book but maybe a little simpler. Keep it a simple typically Disney dark ride just done very well with more modern effects. Not crazy expensive and not a huge people attractor but good on capacity.

agreed...in general, more higher-level IP-based dark rides should aim to be more like Hunny Hunt: leveraging the combination of animatronics, effects, technology, and set design just well enough to elevate (or "plus") what can easily be communicated as a simple, satisfying C-ticket ride into something truly special (not to mention truly immersive).

I'd argue money isn't even the main obstacle in that regard; rather, it's the higher-ups' lack of investment towards anything that doesn't make them instant bank and the jaded, lopsided mindset that "modern = SCREENZ"

 

[Gremlin Gus]

 

[James Alucobond]

Interesting that the one missing beam at the front of the building is likely the one they're signing as the "final" one for Encanto even though the queue portion of the building is still missing.

 

[dmc493]

Topping out ceremonies cheat a lot…. you place the significant beam at the ceremony even if you have small stuff still to erect.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Topping out ceremonies cheat a lot…. you place the significant beam at the ceremony even if you have small stuff still to erect.

Shhh! You’re not allowed to tell people factual information about construction. They sometimes get mad for reasons…

 

[EagleScout610]

Maybe they gave Aladar to Dr. Seeker's actor after the goodbye so he could really get that dino.

Sadly im just kidding and poor Aladar probably went to the trash

 

[Tom Morrow]

Is it too late to petition Disney to reconsider making the carousel about Disney characters? This one change would do considerable improvement toward this not feeling like a Disney IP land and more aligned with Africa and Asia.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Is it too late to petition Disney to reconsider making the carousel about Disney characters? This one change would do considerable improvement toward this not feeling like a Disney IP land and more aligned with Africa and Asia.

Nah I think it makes sense within the story they set. It's someone who enjoys Disney movies, to me its not much different than the actors in Harambe telling the story of the Lion King, etc.

 

[dmc493]

Is it too late to petition Disney to reconsider making the carousel about Disney characters? This one change would do considerable improvement toward this not feeling like a Disney IP land and more aligned with Africa and Asia.

I'll reserve my judgment until I know the % of non-IP vs IP horses on the carousel. If it's 50/50 or better (towards non-IP) then I have very little issue with it

 

[Timothy_Q]

I'll reserve my judgment until I know the % of non-IP vs IP horses on the carousel. If it's 50/50 or better (towards non-IP) then I have very little issue with it

Pretty sure it's 100% disney characters

 

[dmc493]

Pretty sure it's 100% disney characters

Welp

 

[Tom Morrow]

Nah I think it makes sense within the story they set. It's someone who enjoys Disney movies, to me its not much different than the actors in Harambe telling the story of the Lion King, etc.

They could just not do that story then. Festival of the Lion King is a stretch, but the rest of Africa is not about IP at all. If this carousel is all Disney IP, then the land is entirely IP, making "Tropical Americas" in-line with Africa and Asia by name only.

Also, one thing worth noting is that Festival of the Lion King is a show primarily about the human performers, with the Lion King animal characters acting as show hosts. The show has a lot of theatrical performance art value beyond the attached IP. It's not a show about the movie The Lion King, it's a performance art hosted by The Lion King. A pretty big key difference in making an IP fit with the park organically and having something new and interesting to show you vs. superficially and lazily.

 

[James Alucobond]

If this carousel is all Disney IP, then the land is entirely IP, making "Tropical Americas" in-line with Africa and Asia by name only.

It is not comparable in name only. It's structurally comparable as well, which counts for a lot in the current environment. If the land itself is IP-agnostic, it can persist while pieces of it change out over time, perhaps even to non-IP attractions, assuming they ever try again. That's not the case with how most single-IP lands are structured. If Avatar ever falls out of favor, Pandora has to be largely scrapped and redone from scratch. Same with Monstropolis, Batuu, Andy's back yard, etc. They make no sense absent the IP, unlike Tropical Americas.

 

[Tom Morrow]

It is not comparable in name only. It's structurally comparable as well, which counts for a lot in the current environment. If the land itself is IP-agnostic, it can persist while pieces of it change out over time, perhaps even to non-IP attractions, assuming they ever try again. That's not the case with how most single-IP lands are structured. If Avatar ever falls out of favor, Pandora has to be largely scrapped and redone from scratch. Same with Monstropolis, Batuu, Andy's back yard, etc. They make no sense absent the IP, unlike Tropical Americas.

That is true, and hopefully Rohde and whoever can make the land itself appear as culturally rich as Africa and Asia do. But this is why I feel that one ride that has no attached IP would go a long way. Make the carousel an extension of the theming of the land, not a tie-in. I mean, it's just a carousel, will people really be upset if they're not specifically riding on Baloo or whatever?? Will the fact that it IS Baloo actually increase ridership?? I doubt it. It's a carousel.

It serves its purpose better as a thematic centerpiece than an IP tie in attraction.

 

[thelookingglass]

Imagine if Universal had made Constellation Carousel a carousel of Nintendo, Potter, HTTYD, and Monsters, and how lame that would be.

That's what this is like.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

They could just not do that story then. Festival of the Lion King is a stretch, but the rest of Africa is not about IP at all. If this carousel is all Disney IP, then the land is entirely IP, making "Tropical Americas" in-line with Africa and Asia by name only.

Also, one thing worth noting is that Festival of the Lion King is a show primarily about the human performers, with the Lion King animal characters acting as show hosts. The show has a lot of theatrical performance art value beyond the attached IP. It's not a show about the movie The Lion King, it's a performance art hosted by The Lion King. A pretty big key difference in making an IP fit with the park organically and having something new and interesting to show you vs. superficially and lazily.

The land is not entirely IP as a land is not only about attractions, its about the food (which is a non IP location, shopping and overall experience. (we are getting a new playground that afaik is not IP which means its technically the latest non IP attraction (unless it is themed to IJ which it might be))

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Imagine if Universal had made Constellation Carousel a carousel of Nintendo, Potter, HTTYD, and Monsters, and how lame that would be.

That's what this is like.

I wouldn't mind that if had a connecting overarching theme. Constellation Carousel also sucks though so. Every video and ride through it looks like no one even knows how to react to it

 

[James Alucobond]

That is true, and hopefully Rohde and whoever can make the land itself appear as culturally rich as Africa and Asia do. But this is why I feel that one ride that has no attached IP would go a long way. Make the carousel an extension of the theming of the land, not a tie-in. I mean, it's just a carousel, will people really be upset if they're not specifically riding on Baloo or whatever?? Will the fact that it IS Baloo actually increase ridership?? I doubt it. It's a carousel.

I agree generally, I just think that if you're in a place where you legitimately can switch out the carousel figures for anything and/or make the ride at the back a generic romp through a cryptid temple instead of involving IJ and not have to touch anything else about the land, you're in a much better position than you are with the IP facsimile lands.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I agree generally, I just think that if you're in a place where you legitimately can switch out the carousel figures for anything and/or make the ride at the back a generic romp through a cryptid temple instead of involving IJ and not have to touch anything else about the land, you're in a much better position than you are with the IP facsimile lands.

Agreed on that, the only ride in this land that would be hard with is Encanto but tbh, I see it staying around for the long haul as a property, especially with nostalgia.