DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

[BrianLo]

Ah, yes, the claim that the ride will indeed focus on Antonio and his animals. I'll believe it when I see it.

So I guess it’s obstinance. I figured you were back to that.

Yes it’s about Antonio’s door day. Yes they’ll sing about Bruno. No, it does not conceptually need to follow the entire movie to achieve either.

If you’re a fan of drawers, floors, and doors, let’s go! The first-ever “Encanto”-themed ride-through attraction is coming to Animal Kingdom, featuring the beloved Madrigal family from the Walt Disney Animation Studios film. Inside the Casita, Antonio has just received his special gift — the ability to communicate with animals — and his room has transformed into a rainforest. It’s time to go explore alongside him, and you never know what member of the family you might bump into…

 

[doctornick]

Does DL really have many more rides than MK after this? I think it’s closer than you think. Let’s count the unique rides at MK and DL and see how close we get. I’m not counting clones, and I’m not counting analogous attractions (ex. The treehouses) however if a ride is at DL and it’s in another park at WDW and visa versa I will count it as this is only comparing castle parks.

MK: (12)
-Magic Carpets
-Country Bear Jamboree
-Piston Peak
-Villains Coaster
-Villains Dark Ride
-Mickey’s Philharmagic
-Seven Dwarf Mine Train
-Voyage of the Little Mermaid
-Tron Lightcycle Run
-Carousel of Progress
-Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
-Peoplemover

DL: (19)
-Great Moments with Walt Disney
-Indiana Jones Adventure
-Rise of the Resistance
-Riverboat
-Columbia
-Tom Sawyer
-Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run
-Casey Jr
-Pinocchio’s Daring Journey
-Snow White
-Mr. Toad
-Alice in Wonderland
-Storybook Cruise
-Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railroad
-Rodger Rabbit
-Matterhorn
-Submarine Voyage
-Monorail
-Star Tours

It’s not as lopsided as it used to be, and I’d argue that the quality of the MK originals once this edition is done is likely to be as good if not better then the DL exclusives, 11 of the 12 MK attractions I expect to be must rides for me every trip, DL is batting 15/19.

I wouldn’t even count the Monorail considering that exists right outside the MK gate.

Also you are missing Hall of Presidents for MK

 

[Coaster Lover]

Does DL really have many more rides than MK after this? I think it’s closer than you think. Let’s count the unique rides at MK and DL and see how close we get. I’m not counting clones, and I’m not counting analogous attractions (ex. The treehouses) however if a ride is at DL and it’s in another park at WDW and visa versa I will count it as this is only comparing castle parks.

MK: (12)
-Magic Carpets
-Country Bear Jamboree
-Piston Peak
-Villains Coaster
-Villains Dark Ride
-Mickey’s Philharmagic
-Seven Dwarf Mine Train
-Voyage of the Little Mermaid
-Tron Lightcycle Run
-Carousel of Progress
-Monsters Inc Laugh Floor
-Peoplemover

DL: (19)
-Great Moments with Walt Disney
-Indiana Jones Adventure
-Rise of the Resistance
-Riverboat
-Columbia
-Tom Sawyer
-Millennium Falcon Smugglers Run
-Casey Jr
-Pinocchio’s Daring Journey
-Snow White
-Mr. Toad
-Alice in Wonderland
-Storybook Cruise
-Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railroad
-Rodger Rabbit
-Matterhorn
-Submarine Voyage
-Monorail
-Star Tours

It’s not as lopsided as it used to be, and I’d argue that the quality of the MK originals once this edition is done is likely to be as good if not better then the DL exclusives, 11 of the 12 MK attractions I expect to be must rides for me every trip, DL is batting 15/19.

I don't think the comparison is really Magic Kingdom vs. Disneyland, but Walt Disney World vs. Disneyland Resort. Considering the size of WDW (4 parks vs. 2 parks), one would think there are twice as many rides at WDW than DLR, but the totol number of rides between the resorts is surprisingly close (considering the number of parks at each resort).

 

[Brer Panther]

Yes it’s about Antonio’s door day. Yes they’ll sing about Bruno. No, it does not conceptually need to follow the entire movie to achieve either.

Antonio's door day only takes up one small part of the movie. I'd be shocked if the attraction weren't actually just a generic tour of the house with Antonio's room being the climax and the only part that really has to do with animals.

 

[Centauri Space Station]

At the current price of $200+ per ticket, a family of four pays out $800+ plus food/merchandise. No park should have fewer than 25 attractions for a full day of entertainment. Currently only MK meets this threshold. Until this threshold is met in all WDW parks, talking about a new gate is not an option.

If you’re counting ATTRACTIONS then Epcot has 27:
Spaceship earth
Project Tomorrow
Guardians
Mission Space
Advanced Training lab
Test track
Gran Fiesta
Frozen
Stave Church
Wonders of China
House of whispering willows
American Adventure
American Heritage gallery
Bijutsu-kan gallery
Impressions de France/ B&TB
Ratatouille
Canada Far and Wide
Ducktales adventure
Journey into Imagination
Pixar short film fest
Awesome Planet
Living with the land
Soarin
Nemo
Seabase
Turtle Talk
Journey of Water

 

[Touchdown]

I don't think the comparison is really Magic Kingdom vs. Disneyland, but Walt Disney World vs. Disneyland Resort. Considering the size of WDW (4 parks vs. 2 parks), one would think there are twice as many rides at WDW than DLR, but the totol number of rides between the resorts is surprisingly close (considering the number of parks at each resort).

HOP cancelled out by Great Moments with Mr Lincoln. The Walt Show I counted as unique.

 

[EagleScout610]

Demolition photos from that site (No not Dinoland)

Sue is still standing.

 

[FigmentJedi]

 

[Brer Panther]

Honestly, now that I think of it, no matter what they do with the Encanto ride, SOMEBODY's gonna be annoyed.

If it's just rehashing the movie and not focusing on animals, Animal Kingdom fans are annoyed because it doesn't fit the park.

If the ride is indeed exploring a rainforest in Antonio's room and talking about animals, with the other family members just reduced to cameos, fans of the film are annoyed that it barely has anything to do with it. Basically, it'd be another Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

 

[James Alucobond]

Honestly, now that I think of it, no matter what they do with the Encanto ride, SOMEBODY's gonna be annoyed.

If it's just rehashing the movie and not focusing on animals, Animal Kingdom fans are annoyed because it doesn't fit the park.

If the ride is indeed exploring a rainforest in Antonio's room and talking about animals, with the other family members just reduced to cameos, fans of the film are annoyed that it barely has anything to do with it. Basically, it'd be another Tiana's Bayou Adventure.

This just isn't based in reality.

First, dark rides do not need to be slavish scene-by-scene re-hashes of their source films nor do they need to delve deeply into narrative or characterization. Peter Pan's Flight is incredibly popular in spite of not bothering to showcase much of anything about the plot, not to mention that Peter himself is only visible for several seconds at most. It's about the sensation of flying and the scenery of London/Neverland. In the same way, the appeal of Encanto and the thing people actually want to explore within the universe is the magic possessed by the characters and their rooms within Casita. No one cares about hearing generational trauma grandma exposit during a ride.

And as an extension of that, the Tiana's Bayou Adventure comparison is compeletely inapt. TBA explores absolutely nothing people care about within the film's universe. Nobody was begging to see more of Tiana's business acumen or to watch her trudge through the swamp in a Safari Barbie outfit looking for zydeco toads.

 

[Cranky Kong]

Anteater yes, but babirusas come from Asia.

Ah, true, my bad, I got them mixed up with peccaries since they have funky tusks too, just not visible like a male babirusa's.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Y'know, it's probably for the best that Beastly Kingdom wasn't built. If it had been, Iger probably would've shoehorned a Frozen ride or something into it by now.

Or Onward

 

[Bocabear]

If you’re counting ATTRACTIONS then Epcot has 27:
Spaceship earth
Project Tomorrow
Guardians
Mission Space
Advanced Training lab
Test track
Gran Fiesta
Frozen
Stave Church
Wonders of China
House of whispering willows
American Adventure
American Heritage gallery
Bijutsu-kan gallery
Impressions de France/ B&TB
Ratatouille
Canada Far and Wide
Ducktales adventure
Journey into Imagination
Pixar short film fest
Awesome Planet
Living with the land
Soarin
Nemo
Seabase
Turtle Talk
Journey of Water

I don't know that I would call the bolded items true attractions.... set-dressing... something to look at waiting for the next show.....an exit to a ride with a few displays... might as well name the corporate Celebration Gardens, Refreshment Outpost, and the many park benches scattered throughout the park as attractions...

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I like how at Disneyland the waits are actually reasonable compared to Orlando because there’s just so many rides.

There’s much more to do at WDW without a wait time. DL is full of rides with wait times and on busy days there’s not much with no wait. WDW has tons of shows and walk throughs that are very good.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Why can't they be held to a reasonable budget?

It’s not just an issue of holding them to a budget. The organizational structure, processes and culture come with a minimum price. Doing something for cheaper would require cutting out layers of bureaucracy and second-guessing. Some of that is bloated but some also exists for good reasons (everyone loves a “Imagineers forgot about x” story). Disentangling all of that itself is a major undertaking that would need to be done. There’s also just a complete level of distrust when it comes to the parks and park creatives. Disney has no problem handing an inexperienced filmmaker millions that could all be flushed away in a weekend but an experienced Imagineering who has consistently delivered will still be micromanaged and second guessed by suits looking to optimize metrics not related to the park experience.

 

[Ayla]

It’s not just an issue of holding them to a budget. The organizational structure, processes and culture come with a minimum price. Doing something for cheaper would require cutting out layers of bureaucracy and second-guessing. Some of that is bloated but some also exists for good reasons (everyone loves a “Imagineers forgot about x” story). Disentangling all of that itself is a major undertaking that would need to be done. There’s also just a complete level of distrust when it comes to the parks and park creatives. Disney has no problem handing an inexperienced filmmaker millions that could all be flushed away in a weekend but an experienced Imagineering who has consistently delivered will still be micromanaged and second guessed by suits looking to optimize metrics not related to the park experience.

So it's a totally self-created problem.

 

[Brer Oswald]

This just isn't based in reality.

First, dark rides do not need to be slavish scene-by-scene re-hashes of their source films nor do they need to delve deeply into narrative or characterization. Peter Pan's Flight is incredibly popular in spite of not bothering to showcase much of anything about the plot, not to mention that Peter himself is only visible for several seconds at most. It's about the sensation of flying and the scenery of London/Neverland. In the same way, the appeal of Encanto and the thing people actually want to explore within the universe is the magic possessed by the characters and their rooms within Casita. No one cares about hearing generational trauma grandma exposit during a ride.

And as an extension of that, the Tiana's Bayou Adventure comparison is compeletely inapt. TBA explores absolutely nothing people care about within the film's universe. Nobody was begging to see more of Tiana's business acumen or to watch her trudge through the swamp in a Safari Barbie outfit looking for zydeco toads.

It’s also not a replacement of a beloved attraction like TBA was. Indy could be a different story.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I think the exclusion of animal enclosures from TA is due to the proximity to the transportation hub/parking and possible noise concerns affecting the QOL for the animals.

It's one thing if it's something like a crocodile or more... urban birds (storks) there, but things like Capybaras or parrots, heavily noise reliant animals, would probably be stressed being near car and bus horns.

Perhaps they should have built the land elsewhere? Like Behind Kali.

 

[JD80]

So it's a totally self-created problem.

It happens in any corporate environment to one degree or another.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So it's a totally self-created problem.

Yes but it’s also not uncommon when an organization grows. Universal Creative now has many of the same issues.