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DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Moth

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Watch it get Bigglesbumper'd as a compromise

I can't tell if I'd hate that or not. I think "Indy finds a dinosaur" is cornball incarnate. But, Carno was a South American Dino... But that'd be a cheap reuse. But I like dinosaurs.


Check back later, I'm thinking on it.

Slightly disappointed in myself that I clocked that reference immediately too?
 

Moth

Well-Known Member
Just the underperforming attractions.
"Why are they retheming it? It's beloved!"

Most of its life: 5 minutes... 10 minutes if it's feeling spicy.... 15 minutes if something has gone horribly wrong...

Dinosaur was a victim of its location yes, but there's also the fact that people didn't really go on it much. Redoing the area around it, and giving it that new touch of life thru Indy will make that capacity utilized and takes less pressure off of things like Everest and FoP and ESPECIALLY Na'vi River Adventure.

I adored DINOSAUR. My first dinosaur toy in my life came from the gift shop, I'm upset its going, but the fact it lasted this long is a miracle. I'm happy it lasted this long, I got my last rides on it, and that it went out with its head high and loved.
 

FigmentJedi

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I can't tell if I'd hate that or not. I think "Indy finds a dinosaur" is cornball incarnate. But, Carno was a South American Dino... But that'd be a cheap reuse. But I like dinosaurs.


Check back later, I'm thinking on it.

Slightly disappointed in myself that I clocked that reference immediately too?
Cornball as it is, there being tiny bits of precedent for "Indy vs dinosaurs" was more then enough to fuel a bargaining phase. Makes me wish I had a Time Rover to tell George and Steve to stick with the dinosaur idea instead of Temple of Doom.
 

WorldExplorer

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Tonight we're saying goodbye mainly to Dinosaur, but I want to take a moment and do a eulogy for the entire land. I won't get a relevant time to bring some of this up again, so I'm going to just say everything that comes to me.

This forum likes to talk like the only reason anyone likes anything old is nostalgia, so I want to start out by saying I have no nostalgia for any part of Dinoland. I actually started out hating it; I used to go and search for it on forums to watch people bashing on it, and I would always roll my eyes at the people trying to explain the story. There's always someone trying to explain it. It's contagious.

What happened was I based that opinion off of pictures and biased takes online, and then I actually went there and it won me over.

There were so many things to see, an incredible amount of detail, so many little jokes, and it all meshed together into a fun and bright atmosphere that God knows I want more of in my life. Dinoland just made me happy to be in. Towards the end, I was there multiple times a week, every week, for months (sometimes rope dropping them not leaving until they kicked me out), and the walk in got real old real quick, but when I got to the Olden Gate Bridge or Cementosaurus, it was always worth it, I always smiled.

Dinoland ruined other lands for me, because I find myself slipping back into the mindset where it’s worthwhile looking everywhere even though that mindset only applies to Dinoland. The only thing I ever find other places is references to things and disappointment. Dinoland was a giant treasure hunt where each o’saurus or note or little detail felt like I really found something. There were jokes, stories, information, everywhere, but you had to take your time and you had to look. That's something I never saw mentioned online before going in, and I loved it, and I loved that every time I thought “this is it, I’ve been everywhere, I’ve finally seen everything”, the next trip proved that wrong. Right up until the last day, I was still seeing new things.

I still value Internet anonymity very much, so I’ll be vague, but I feel I have to say this to get across just how much this whole thing has upset me: I used to be a cast member and you can probably guess where I worked.

The love for it came before the job, it's just a coincidence I ended up there. I had one of the best jobs in all of Disney World! I got to make my own “script” so to speak and make my own jokes. I had so many fun experiences, met so many people, and took part in so many wonderful memories.

People have said to me that when you work somewhere in Disney it becomes like your second home. I don't think that's inherently true, because I worked a bunch of different places, and I don't feel any loyalty to them. I don't want this to turn into “oh you like it because you worked there”, places I worked get bashed on all the time here and I haven't said a word in their defense nor do I want to.

But I absolutely left my heart somewhere in Diggs County. I put it in with all the knickknacks. I was proud of the job I did, and I was proud to work in one of the most unique lands Disney ever built. I still am! What I had in there was special and I miss it more than I can really put into words. I miss working in a giant cartoon. I miss my dinosaurs.

When I was down there I would occasionally meet and talk to people who worked Epcot and Hollywood Studios for a long time, back when those had themes. One day, that's gonna be me. I get to say I worked at Animal Kingdom when it was still truly Animal Kingdom! I worked the shop for that cool ride you wish you got the chance to ride!

Finally, I got to experience the cool ride before it left (I don't really remember Splash due to the fear of the drop); I was terrified the first few times, but that was what made it special! I'm scared to get on anything with a drop, but this delivered all the adrenaline, all the fear, plus a whole load of amazing animatronics, all without any real drops! There was a time I, as a grown adult, was afraid to look at the carnotaurous; that's amazing craftsmanship, atmosphere, animatronic animation, lighting, tension, all coming together to make this thing feel like I really was in danger! It was perfect and totally unique in Disney World! And it had a funny preshow, too!

The test of a truly creative person is how they work under restraints and if they can still thrive and create something wonderful; Joe Rohde and the team heading Dinoland were true creatives and I hope they know there are people out there who really appreciate their effort. I should know, not only am I one of those people, but I met many others!

Today was wonderful. It was filled with things to see and creativity, just like the land people were celebrating.

So here's to the Boneyard, a shining example that just because something is for children doesn't mean it can't be amazing.

Here's to Restaurant O'saurus, the most creative and fun restaurant Disney has ever made.

Here's to Chester and Hester's Dino-Rama and Chester and Hester's Dinosaur Treasures, always good for a smile. If I had a theme park I’d hire those two.

Here's to Dinosaur, a terrifying, unique thrill.

Here’s to Dinoland; one of a kind and the most underappreciated land Disney has or ever will make. We were there guys. We got to see it!

I wish I could discover it all over again.
 
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FigmentJedi

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I’m sorry I’ll be more diplomatic.

Two posters in the last pages said they are done with Animal Kingdom and thinks that Dinoland USA was the last integral part of Animal Kingdom. I don’t get why Tropical Americas is a bad fit.
Besides it coming at the expense of prehistory and extinction representation in the park, I feel like the biggest driver of skepticism towards the project is the lack of a live animal exhibit component. Like there'd be a lot less "Is Encanto actually going to focus on Antonio's animal buddies or are they just a cover for Disney to program robots to sing the Bruno meme song everybody forgot already?" questions if they had a capybara enclosure somewhere outside.
 

999th Happy Haunt

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I’m sorry I’ll be more diplomatic.

Two posters in the last pages said they are done with Animal Kingdom and thinks that Dinoland USA was the last integral part of Animal Kingdom. I don’t get why Tropical Americas is a bad fit.
It’s not a bad fit, but not building it from the ground up is incredibly frustrating.

It actually potentially IS a bad fit if they don’t include any animal exhibits as is rumored.
 

James Alucobond

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Like there'd be a lot less "Is Encanto actually going to focus on Antonio's animal buddies or are they just a cover for Disney to program robots to sing the Bruno meme song everybody forgot already?" questions if they had a capybara enclosure somewhere outside.
No, no there wouldn't. It is simply one of the many complaints available to people who are aggrieved about Dinoland. I'm not saying they're not allowed to be sad about it, but let's not pretend that taking away one of the potential complaints would magically stop the other complaints from flowing.
 

Meeko77

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I grew up loving Dinosaurs as a kid and Walt Disney World was a place that brought them to life. While it took me a while to not be scared of Dinosaur/Countdown to Extinction I loved Universe of Energy for as long as I can remember. Some of you know the story of how I was on the very last ride that broke down and got to walk around the Primeval World. For DinoLand, I didn’t make the trip. I’ve long let my annual pass expire and I couldn’t bring myself to reward Disney with my time and money for a last ride after everything that has been done.

The only Dinosaur that now remains at the resort is the skeleton on Big Thunder Mountain. The rest are officially gone and extinct. The ones that once upon a time had me believe in “Disney Magic.”

The opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s apathy. I just don’t care enough anymore. My brother is trying to get me to go on a trip because there’s some deal on 4 day tickets but honestly all I want to do in Orlando is go back to Epic Universe since I haven’t been there since the Grand Opening.
I agree that there have been too many changes that have been hard to accept - have always loved dinosaurs as well. Don't forget Dinosaur Gertie at the Studios! 🦕🍦
 

HMF

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I agree that there have been too many changes that have been hard to accept - have always loved dinosaurs as well. Don't forget Dinosaur Gertie at the Studios! 🦕🍦
Maybe, but there was another attraction that featured dinosaurs that could have been re-used if it's show building really had to go but of course Disney neglected to put two and two together and those AA dinosaurs are sadly lost to the winds of time. Also, Universal can only milk the Jurassic Park/World concept so much.
 

WorldExplorer

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For those of you who hate lightning lane, here's a fun comparison:

I got in line during the three hour forty minute wait time, entering the line about parallel with the normal entrance so I had the entire extended queue to go through, but no more. It took about three hours. The preshow was already running while we entered so they were churning through people as fast as possible.

For my final ride, I entered the line near the entrance to the Restaurant O'saurus lounge, the line having spilled out of the extended queue by a significant amount. It took a little over an hour. We saw the whole preshow.

While it is certainly possible that there were technical issues causing delays (nothing was announced), the main difference here...was the first one had LL up and running with a line out to the Cretaceous Trail.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Most of its life: 5 minutes... 10 minutes if it's feeling spicy.... 15 minutes if something has gone horribly wrong...
That’s not true. it would usually see 40+ minute waits at some point each day. Here’s a history of todays date.
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WorldExplorer

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The worst thing Dino-Rama did was that it's going to act as cover for whatever Disney does.

No matter how this thing turns out that's going to be the response. "There used to be a carnival here and I didn't like the carnival." We've already seen this with the constant defense of Disney's poorly fitting choice for what to put there; they could literally do anything there, but Rama means the only standard you're supposed to have is "not Rama".

If the ride is another one with only screens and no animatronics, the screens break immediately, and it also catches fire opening day, we'll still have to hear about "...but I didn't like the carnival".
 

WorldExplorer

Well-Known Member
Glad to hear its already written in stone the new rides will be all screens and break.

No part of my post said that. I said "if" as part of an exaggerated hypothetical as part of an overall point.

I’m sorry I’ll be more diplomatic.

Two posters in the last pages said they are done with Animal Kingdom and thinks that Dinoland USA was the last integral part of Animal Kingdom. I don’t get why Tropical Americas is a bad fit.

When the thing I enjoyed about a product is removed from it, I stop spending money on the product.

Especially when it's an expensive product.

It’s not a bad fit, but not building it from the ground up is incredibly frustrating.

It actually potentially IS a bad fit if they don’t include any animal exhibits as is rumored.

Rumored? I thought they confirmed that.

This made me tear up…. Lovely and beautiful thoughts.

Thanks. I'm upset, but it was worth experiencing and I'm glad I got the chance.
 

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